WIBU if I complain about this teacher?

Teacher was probably terrified- Poor teacher! It is not ok for them to work in an unsafe environment. I wouldn’t like to feel unsafe at my workplace. Unfortunately your child is the issue.

"She was not being attacked"? Your son and 3 of his friends "found out where he was" and burst in. That teacher must have been terrified, both for herself and for the other boy. How on earth can you think you have a right to complain?

Yay! Another violent and entitled thug being dragged up by protective moron of a mother. Just what the world needs.

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I would be absolutely mortified if anyone of my sons did this I could not imagine for a second even blaming the teacher for standing up for a 12/13 year old over 3 bullies who thought it was acceptable to attack a child who was in a room with a teacher
if I was that child’s parent I’d be calling the police on your son and the others.

But you said he turned to say something. Maybe she was scared and felt threatened?? Maybe she thought he could have a weapon??

you weren’t there.

I know you feel protective of your son and I’m sorry he’s having a tough time - but what if this was the other way around and your son was the younger child?

Was the younger boy was in isolation with his HOY to keep him safe from your son? Either way, yabvu to complain. Your son and his friends are probably much larger and stronger than her (my son is 15 and a little shorter then me (I’m quite tall) but he’s much stronger already). She did a brave thing to protect her student from a group attack. Imagine how frightening this must have been. She acted out of protection and fear. This is not what you should be focussing on.

I get it, your ds was once your baby, and it’s awful to think he could be capable of such things, but you need to be realistic about how bad this could get if you don’t start helping him sort his behaviour out.

Sort your dick head kid out

No it is not ok for a teacher to put their hands on a student but in your opening post you said
the head of year has forcibly got in the middle and told my son to get out - he did - but as he turned round again to say something to the other boy she has pushed him away from her and again screamed at him to get out
To me that reads that if your son had walked away when told to and when she first got in the middle he wouldn’t have been touched , he was pushed when he turned around to have another go so frankly I’d back the teacher in this case . Just think about what your son has done - stormed into a classroom, with a gang to attack a younger child completely unprovoked , been told to leave and has turned round to presumably have another go . I can’t see many people arguing that the teacher overstepped , particularly in this day and age where frankly children do attack teachers .

Bbz you are not doing your son any favours by reporting this teacher. All it will do will reinforce his belief that he is a victim/ can do no wrong. And i'm assuming this belief has come from you, jumping in to excuse his bad behaviour.

Jesus Christ. What is wrong with you? Why don’t you concentrate on punishment for absolute dick of a son. Poor teacher having to deal with that and now have to deal with his absolute cockwomble of a mother

Your projecting your anger on to the teacher. If I was in your position I couldn't care less if she pushed my son and shouted at him if he'd came in to a room and attached another pupil who is a year younger. I'd be angry, mortified and absolutely disgusted by his behaviour. I'd imagine the teacher was likely shaken up also witnessing that.

So he says

And this is what is wrong with 'kids today'

Are you joking?! You must be.

‘She’s not big or tall and she didn’t hurt him’

If either of my boys had had to be kept apart from another kid after a fight, by a female teacher, who you’ve admitted is small in stature, I’d be livid with them. For the fight (because he stormed into a room, with 3 friends, and started throwing punches, you know this very much not ok right?!) and for the absolute fear of god he probably put into the teacher - 2 teenage boys fighting, with 2 more stood watching?! I’d be petrified about how to de escalate that!

Your son has been a grade A dickhead, and this is your chance not to be one too by teaching him actions have consequences, do not focus on deflecting attention to the teacher.

Jesus.

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A 14 year old boy with 3 of his friends storms in to beat up another child, starts throwing punches. The teacher, who you say is a small woman, will be expected to protect that other child and keep them safe. Imagine being in that situation yourself? Do you think you could act rationally and keep everyone safe? I'll be honest, I'd have been scared if I was that teacher and I don't really scare easily, but she was alone and knew she had a responsibility to protect the child. Adrenaline would have been high and she would have done what was natural at that time.
Teachers aren't prison guards or police. They're not trained in restraint techniques or ready for violence to break out at any moment.
So, yes you would be very unreasonable to complain. If I was you I would be thanking the teacher for breaking it up and be deeply apologetic that your son put her through that.

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If I (also not big or tall) was in a room with 4 aggressive 14 year old boys who came in with intent to harm and caused ABH I would have been scared. As they left and he turned I’d be using my own judgement to protect myself and the younger child.

this is reasonable force and she had to make a snap decision in the moment. How awful for her.

I would also be calling the police.

You have got to be having a laugh. I hope the other boys parents press charges because your poor son clearly isn’t going to learn anything about consequences from you.

So you wanted the teacher to just do nothing ? Just stand aside and let another child get beaten up ?
Thank god she did get him out of the room.
a female teacher confronted by three teen lads and tried to protect the one lone lad from injury and you wanted to report her !! The mind boggles.

You both sound like bell ends.

Of course they can put their hands on a student if defending another or defusing a situation. From what you have described, she HAD to intervene. She's not just going to stand there and accept your child throwing punches.

I'm struggling to believe this is real but, if it is, your only concern should be why your own child is behaving like a thug for this teacher to need to put her hands on him, rather than trying to get her into trouble. He is not hurt, she may have been. She put herself on the line to protect another student and defuse the situation. She should be applauded. Who'd be a teacher these days?

The only thing the school has done wrong here is not sent their teacher on a Team Teach course, which teaches teachers how to de escalate situations and restrain students when necessary.
One teacher can't restrain 4 teenagers FFS, don't be ridiculous. One adult would struggle to physically restrain 4 * 7 year olds at once; 2 hands! She told them to leave, and she was ready to defend herself. She did well.

You said he turned around to say something. For all she knew he was about to assault the other child again. What was she supposed to do?!

I wouldn't worry about a complaint regarding the teacher pushing your son.

I would lay cold hard cash that he's going to get PEXd.

You're lucky that the parents of the boy haven't called the police.

Has it crossed your mind that the sort of boy that thinks it’s ok to punch other children in front of a senior teacher no less, might also be the sort of boy that talks shit and makes things up?