WIBU if I complain about this teacher?

You need to WAKE UP. Your son, with a group, has picked on a YOUNGER BOY. He doesn’t need yiu to “get him help” he needs DISCIPLINE, which the teacher was trying to enforce and clearly your son wasn’t listening. You need to back the teacher up 100%. Your reaction indicates where your son’s behavioural problems stem from - sorry to say it, but that’s my view. I hope you get if sorted.

You said she had to push him away "from her" which clearly indicates that he was physically close to her and, as a minimum, invading her space. Also she was in a horrible position - three boys stormed in (your description) and physically attacked a younger child, and having been told to go out your son turned back. It almost certainly looked to her as if he was about to attack her or the other child again. She is certainly allowed to put her hands on a pupil to protect either herself or someone else.

I hope your son and his friends are being severely penalised..

If your delightful son and his gaggle of mates had stormed in a room to attack my DS like a pack of animals, I would be teaching you and him a lesson by finding you and battering you in front of him. One day your son is going to bully the wrong person. I hope you don’t go whinging about it when he’s on the other end.

14 year old boys can kill women with their bare hands. It's utterly shameful that you are upset at a woman who was defending herself and another kid from not one, but 4 males.

You should absolutely apologize and seriously look at parenting classes because you're growing an entitled man child who is already known to be violent.

Apologize profusely to the teacher and tell your son he's lucky he's not been arrested.

You should be buying her a big bunch of flowers and apologising profusely to her not reporting her !!!

she was protecting one child from being beaten by 3 !! If course she laid hard on him !!!!

if my child was the single one and she hadn’t man handled your son out of that room I’d be really annoyed with her

you are so ridiculously out if order for even thinking bad if her

I am a teacher of 30 years and only put hands on kids to protect them from harm she is a head of year so is trained , experienced and knows what she should , and should not be doing in regards her safeguarding practice

give your head a giant wobble and focus on what you really need to be focusing on !

You have raised a violent thug and are now enabling him. Poor parenting. I pity the teacher. She must have been scared. You are pathetic OP

Your son sounds like a little shit and you’re not allowing him to take any accountability. So no wonder he’s a little shit

A child in her care was being attacked.
In the year below your son?

yabvu and sound quite frankly awful.

If I were in your shoes I would be directing my energies towards parenting the violent son.

Also, if this is real you seriously need to tell your son to grow a pair. Don't dish it out if he can't take it. Honestly, throwing punches but then crying "but she pushed me". It's pathetic.

A kid who is like that now will be the same adult who accuses the police of assault when they need to arrest him in the future (which will happen before long if he carries on with this attitude). Be the parent! Don't enable him by pandering to such ridiculous complaints. He needs to know his behaviour was unacceptable, period, and you will not be supporting any pathetic complaints against the poor staff who have to put up with his thuggery.

Out of interest, is this purely your son's version of events? You said he turned to say something else to the boy - if he was already pumped up on enough adrenalin to punch someone, this was probably a lot more agressive/threatening than he is making it out to be.

You said he was walking away then said he turned around again to say something to the other boy so clearly he had stopped walking away or she thought he was going to start again. Get out means get out not stop and exchange chats with the other friends after behaving violently. 3 kids storming a classroom what the hell is this whats wrong with children now a days and how have u as a parent let this escalate to the extent ur son is behaving like this did u really not know? Where have u been? Yet here u r trying to fault a teacher. Catch a grip of urself woman id be surprised if what ur son says is the truth to be honest especially after the way he just behaved

You need to give your head a wobble!

You should be thinking about the poor child who has been punched several times, by your son. But instead you are focusing on the deemed injustice of the teacher 'laying hands' on your son.
Please focus on the choices your son has made and why; your one priority should be on his behaviour to others.

This is a wind up right???? Your son sounds awful.

But you can bet your ass she felt threatened & intimidated if 3 teenage boys lunged into a room and attacked another pupil. So whilst your son may not have actually put hands on her by turning back into the room and coming toward her he put her in a state of fear - which could also be classed as assault. Your son could be charged with 2 lots of assault.
Put yourself in her shoes - she’d already witnessed an assault on a pupil in her care, she was on her own with 3 assailants at least one of whom is coming back towards her…what would you have done?

Yes you are u reasonable, she was in a heightened situation with two boys trying to fight. Concentrate on what’s going on with your son, make him write an apology letter to the teacher and stay in your lane.

I presume you know what happened because he told you, you have no idea if he is exaggerating or focusing on what this teacher did to him rather than dealing with what he and the other boy did wrong.

Classic little bitchplop and run OP

So your son and 2 friends went into a room and started trouble? You accept your son was in the wrong but you want to go after the teacher, who was in the middle of four boys. Wow, leave the teacher alone and sort your son out!

I wouldn’t be a teacher for anything. Imagine having to deal with 4 angry teenagers trying to attack a younger child and then having the parent of the instigator complain because you push him because he wouldn’t leave. Some parents are beyond deluded. I wouldn’t believe much your son says op, he clearly has issues! I hope he is dealt with properly and the school stick up for this teacher and tell you where to go with your bullshit complaint.

It’s parents like you that are ruining the education system in this country. The reason why teachers no longer feel safe to do their job.

The head of year acted in defence of the other student. They acted with reasonable force to protect and sort the situation as required. How would you like to go to work and have to deal with this shite.

In a few years it’ll be the police dealing with your darling sweet cherub and they’ll use actual force will you complain about them too. Why not deal with the actual issue and parent your child!!

I hope the school look at a long exclusion and possible referral to a PRU as no doubt this is just the tip of the iceberg from your child and their behaviour issues.

Going into a teachers office with two extra students for back up is a disgrace, it shows intent to cause harm. Then punching the other child whilst the teacher is there, what would you have wanted them to do if it was the other way round.

Any bets on how long this will last before @Throwawaymama goes crying to MNHQ and asking for it to be deleted because it's causing her distress in real life?

This.

My 13 year old Y8 is 6ft tall. He's the same size as me now and if him and 3 of his mates came running at me to attack someone, there is not much I'd be able to do!

We can all see why your son behaves the way he does.

Try re-enacting this and you'll see it's sort of impossible to push someone who is moving in the other direction. When your son turned around to say something, his body will have at the very least pivoted back towards the teacher and younger child he was attacking. It's also entirely possible he stepped back in that direction.

The problem is that everyone predicting an (absolutely deserved!) permanent exclusion is probably wrong. It's almost impossible to permanently exclude kids, even violent and dangerous ones like the OP's son. He'll probably suffer very little consequence and learn nothing from the experience.

I think the teacher is thoroughly unreasonable. What on earth were they thinking... not to have called the police and had your ds arrested for assault is definitely unreasonable.
Pushing your ds away was more than reasonable.

And if your ds thinks that seeking out a younger boy and assaulting him in front of a teacher is at all reasonable, which he clearly does, as he has done it in cold blood, not in the heat of the moment, then you need to be ashamed of him, not looking for excuses.

I suspect the younger boy was not in isolation, but with a teacher because of the threats from your ds.

Hopefully they are talking to the police now.