WIBU if I complain about this teacher?

Good point. I hope so.

Not surprised the poster never came back. Unfortunately very sure they're currently complaining to the school.

I hope the poor kid who got attacked is getting help. I cannot believe anyone would look at this and think the 'teacher' is the problem here. I wish I knew who she was - I'd buy her a drink!

Your son will hopefully will be excluded permanently and you need to wind our neckin. It's kidslike yours and parents like you who make the whole system unsafe for all the others. The teacher does not deserve this and neither the other children in the school

I’m sure he was just turning around again to say ‘sorry mate - hug and make up?’

You are lucky she stepped in. Your kid could be facing a murder charge right now.

You are aware that one punch can kill right?

4 kids onto one could have gone horribly wrong. (Even more than now)

Your kid went out of the way to find another kid and assault them. If I were the other parent I'd be calling the police too.

Excuse me Jimmy would you mind leaving the room please.
Is that what she should have done?
Seriously?

You need an emergency reality check. Your priorities are all wrong. Stop playing the victim instead of taking responsibility for your role in this disastrous situation. This attitude has influenced your son and turned him into an entitled violent yob. That poor teacher. No wonder noone wants to do that shitty underpaid job any more. Hopefully he'll be arrested/expelled. This attitude is part of everything that is wrong with UK society today.

Maybe the police have become involved. If so, good.

But you said she did it after he turned back around. You say he was going to say something but how is she to know he wasn’t turning around to be violent again?

You say she wasn’t under attack - are you kidding me?? You don’t think she didn’t feel under threat, vulnerable, scared? With 3 boys to deal with as well! Which is besides the point because she was responsible for the child that was violently assaulted by your son, so would’ve been ok to use reasonable force regardless.

What an absolute joke.

This is not consistent with your OP...

"The head of year has forcibly got in the middle and told my son to get out - he did - but as he turned round again to say something to the other boy she has pushed him away from her and again screamed at him to get out. She’s not big or tall and she didn’t hurt him."

So your DS was fighting the boy... She got in the middle and told your son to get out. He turned back around to be aggressive/violent AGAIN to say something to the other boy and she reacted by escalating her management to a physical prompt, because your son wasn't just getting out ... He was continuing to stay in that situation by saying something to the other boy.

Your son was in the wrong. Poor teacher.

Your son viciously carried out an unprovoked attack and this is what you’re focusing on? What message does this send your son?

The media picks up all sorts of threads from here. Not this one. I wonder why?

No no...for this kind of parent the blame ALWAYS has to go somewhere else. If it doesn't, it means they might actually have to look at themselves, 12 years in schools in London has taught me this. It's unbelievable to witness.

Wow!
YABU - your aggressive teenage boy took two other aggressive teenage boy start a fight with one boy and a teacher (who you say wasn’t big).
What makes you think it is her job to fend off attackers to a single child?

It’s disgusting you’re standing up for your poor little angel. I don’t know why anyone would put up with parents and pupils like this.
Teaching is not paid anywhere near enough for this - neither are the police who no doubt will get to know your son next.

Parents like you drive good teachers out of the profession. The poor woman! She probably went home shaking. Boys your son's age are often bigger and stronger than women teachers and he had his mates with him too. She also did not know if he was armed. If you son was wound up and aggressive and chosing to seek out and threaten a student knowing he was with a member of staff this shows he did not give a flying proverbial for her authority or the rules of the school or common decency. Someone like that might well be carrying a knife. She was probably fearful (terrified possibly) for herself and for the student she was with and for whom she was responsible. If there is any justice your son will be permanently excluded. I hope the teacher, the school or the parents of other child get the police involved.

That HTs are discouraging teachers from pressing charges in the interests of ‘reputation’ is absolutely bonkers to me. Firstly - protect your team and protect your pupils. That in itself should be enough to guide your actions.

Beyond that, do they not think parents already know or worry this sort of thing happens, and actually the majority are hoping appropriate action is taken. Being seen to have a zero tolerance policy is EXACTLY what most parents would find an attractive ‘reputation’.

Schools already have a reputation, pressing charges or not. The whole year will know about this with 1hr.

According to your original post, he had turned round again. He wasn't just walking away. And honestly, I would not be inclined to believe his account anyway. As his mother, you should be concentrating on getting him help to put his life straight, not trying to deflect attention and blame onto a woman who was doing her job in extremely difficult and frightening circumstances, thanks to your out of control son. He's not your precious baby anymore - he's a 14 year old thug. How did he get like that? That's what you should be thinking about.

I agree completely, @Biscuitmonster2318 - I hope the OP is still reading this thread, and learning from it, but I'm not holding my breath.

Hopefully your son is expelled and the other parents call the police.

Imagine your son being the person who was in a classroom when 4 older boys stormed in and attacked,

the teacher stood by and did not intervene except to call for support from other staff members.
meanwhile your son is being physically assaulted by 4 older boys.

What would you expect from that teacher..
you would be complaining about her not intervening and protecting your son from older, bigger, physically stronger and violent young adults. That one smaller teacher would immediately try to protect your child.

You would be up in arms if she did not do that.

Yet your complaint about her trying to protect someone else from getting hurt by your older bigger violent son is to complain about her trying to prevent serious injury to anyone.

You should be grateful she was willing to put herself in harms way to ensure the other student was safe and protected from your child.

Imagine the consequences if she had not done that… your son and his friends could have seriously hurt another child. Again you would complain because you would blame the teacher for not stopping your son and his friends.

You are lucky that the parents of the other child have not called the police as it is assault- regardless of being in a school.

What did your son and his friends do to the teacher as it will not be as clean cut as your son will make out?

If that had happened outside of the school your son and his friend’s would be getting a visit from the police.

You should simply be grateful she stopped something far worse happening.

You should instead focus on your son’s behaviour.

I actually can’t believe what I’ve read. If that was my son. We’d be immediately going to the school with a bunch of flowers(paid for by him) He would profusely apologise to the teacher give her the flowers. Next we’d go to the young lads home where my son would be apologising to the boy and his parents.
if I was the mum of the lad who was assaulted I would be calling the police. If you let your son get away with this and label the teacher as the bad guy you are going your son a massive disservice. You’re basically telling him he can break the law, be a violent thug and mummy will sort it all out for him!!

If you go to reddit teaching uk you will see it's daily. Teachers are over a barrel to their senior leadership team because teaching is built on reputation and they only have to say one thing in a certain way to anyone in the school a teacher is applying for and they will find they are ostracised.

Heads have long discovered their power and are not afraid to use it. Teachers are merely living, breathing, sentient babysitters in a lot of cases.

Teachers who can have walked. Those who can't afford to are trying to keep their heads abover water and are crashing out with stress/MH/depression.

And these will be the schools you will be sending your kids to tomorrow. It's commonplace - normalised. Zero protection for health and safety for staff. Except a "Mental Health Awareness Day", for which you are expected to give up your lunch to attend, thus, ironically, worsens it.

Oh and the academy trust CEO will be on 200K plus https://schoolsweek.co.uk/revealed-the-academy-ceo-pay-premium/ with no discernable improvements on results. In fact they are worse https://www.nasbtt.org.uk/epi-report-academies-no-better-la-schools-7-important-findings/

I’m appalled-and I rarely say this-that your focus is on the teacher protecting the other child! We are allowed, as staff, to restrain/move students if we think harm will come to the attacker/the attacked or property. Get over yourself. The teacher was probably shitting herself when 3 idiots stormed in to beat up the other kid.

That is really appalling @ilovesooty and, like you, I sincerely hope this poor teacher, doesn't work for a Head like that!