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For my husband to want me to get angry on his behalf?

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AnimalFarm1983 · 19/05/2025 17:19

I'll try to keep this brief..I was in WH Smiths choosing a birthday card for my SIL and called DH to see what type of card he wanted. When he realised where I was he said he had just been in there and had a row with the cashier because she deliberately wouldn't serve him as there were self service tills available. He said he wanted to pay there for a reason i forgot and she was a bit snarky about it (according to him) so he told her to F off and threw the magazine on the counter.

He then wanted me to approach her, get her name and tell her he was reporting her for her attitude. My stomach fell at this, it was quiet in there and I've chatted with this worker before. I said I'd try and get her name at least. I went to the counter and asked for the magazine as i had no idea where it was. She picked one up off the floor and said 'this one? Funny as I've just had a man throw it at me.' I squeaked out, yes that was my husband I think he felt you were rude to him. She then re-told the story the same but acted like she was polite. I ended up apologising for his behaviour. She then said 'men are like that' and shrugged. I didn't get her name.

I now feel really sick and have a horrible feeling in the pit of my stomach. If I don't start kicking off like him about behaviour I didn't even witness he will say I'm not supporting him and not on his side. He has done this before, wanting me to go somewhere and make a fuss on his behalf. It's just so awkward, not my fight and I'm not as angry at the world as he is. I feel really annoyed he has made me feel like this and put me in this position. He is depressed and waiting for therapy but he comes home almost daily with a story about how someone slighted him or upset him etc. Even if the woman WAS rude I would have probably thought, what a cow and shrugged it off and got on with my life whereas he makes these things into a huge massive big deal.
AIBU to not want to do what he said and get involved in this?

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Hallywally · 26/05/2025 19:37

Depression is no excuse for being rude, aggressive and controlling. That is bullshit. Why didn’t he buy his own card and behaving like that with the shop assistant and with you is unacceptable.

MusicMakesItAllBetter · 26/05/2025 19:00

CopperWhite · 19/05/2025 17:45

Feeling like everyone is against you, even if you’re feeling like it as a result of your own negative behaviour is a classic thing that happens when people are suffering with mental illness. If you know he is properly depressed then it is not fair to judge him by the same standards you would a healthy person.

You don’t need to get angry on his behalf or do what he says, but people who are waiting for therapy they desperately need do deserve a bit of understanding.

Expecting someone with a mental illness to behave rationally is like expecting someone with a broken leg to run the local 5k.

I think along these lines.

It doesn't excuse shitty behaviour but mental health illness is just that.
An illness that needs treatment like other illnesses.
OP I hope he does get better after the therapy and you can live happily again

Rh0dedenr0n · 21/05/2025 06:42

Im Not making excuses- his behaviour is absolutely not ok. However, it IS because of his mental heath. He needs to see how important it is to get help because he is acting unreasonably. I’ve seen it countless times in family and friends - they come off their meds, or don’t believe in meds, and meanwhie everyone around them suffers

Miaminmoo · 21/05/2025 00:50

I’ve voted YABU as I wouldn’t even have spoken to this woman about him, much less admitted he was my husband. You need to shut him down, there’s no way you should be getting anxious about how he has behaved and how he is involving you. There is no way you should be expected to ‘defend’ him and take his side over something so petty. Also, why would you need his input on what sort of card he wants? If he’s so particular and he’s just been in there why didn’t he choose one himself - my DH wouldn’t have any opinion on what sort of card to send, although he wouldn’t even know it was someone’s Birthday so….. it sounds like he is horrible and controlling - to the point where you won’t even buy a card without checking with him? You need to toughen up and stop enabling his ridiculous behaviour. Imagine all this fuss because he felt a cashier in a shop was rude to him? I’m sorry you are in this situation, you need to make a change for your own good. Don’t let him make you feel guilty just because he has MH issues. Your happiness is of equal importance. He’s acting like a prick.

NoPaintedPony · 20/05/2025 21:41

Just so I underhand this correctly:
Your husband went into the shop for a magazine. (I’m presuming for himself)
You went into the same shop to buy SIL’s card.

Again, I’m presuming it’s his sister as you phoned him to check it was what he wanted.

Without the whole issue of how the interaction between him and the sales assistant went, why didn’t he buy the card?
He won’t buy the card but you have to check it’s the right one.

There are alarm bells ringing here.

Magicboobies · 20/05/2025 20:22

how does he think it’s ok to shout and swear at staff 😭
don’t spend your life walking on egg shells OP

JLou08 · 20/05/2025 20:18

I can't remember the last time someone was rude to me, can't remember the last time my DH said someone was rude to him either. I don't recall him ever expecting me to defend him. You sound scared of your DH. All that makes me think he is the problem, he sounds like a nasty, aggressive bully.

Prioryfodder · 20/05/2025 20:13

’I am not your Rottweiler,’ is what I tell mine when he wants me to pick a fight for him. Seems to settle him down

TheMel · 20/05/2025 19:58

As a rule people should always be on their spouse's side. That goes for both genders. But only as far as supporting their spouse. Nobody has to actively continue a feud on the other's behalf.

whataboutyou · 20/05/2025 19:49

Imagine a GROWN ADULT MAN shouting, swearing, and then throwing something at a retail assistant, even if she was a little bit sassy (which tbh, I wouldn't even be sure of). He sounds like an absolute bully and controlling. If that happened to me, I'd probably roll my eyes internally and crack on with my day. If I was the assistant, I would be tempted to report him - many retail assistants now wear body cameras for this exact reason. I don't know how you don't have the ick to be honest.

Dogsbreath7 · 20/05/2025 19:43

A bully and a coward. YABU for defending him. You weren’t there so you don’t know who did what BUT you do know he has track record.🤔

Mackerelfillets · 20/05/2025 19:38

Tell him you didn't see her, she must have gone for lunch/break.

He sounds like he has a lot of issues but you shouldn't have to deal with it. My sister was with a guy like this and EVENTUALLY she left him. Took her over 20 years though.

Laurmolonlabe · 20/05/2025 19:33

Never make a fuss on somebody else's behalf unless they are genuinely unable to do it themselves - ie they are very old or otherwise vulnerable. Why can't he make a complaint himself?
At a guess because he knows throwing the magazine at the cashier is not a reasonable way to resolve a disagreement, but he still wants to punish her even though he was unreasonable. I would be very wary of a man who wants other people to fight his battles for him.
You may be right and it is part of his depression, but l think it is likely to be part of his personality - some people are more resilient than others and can take the knocks of every day life without getting angry and taking it out on people, clearly your husband gets angry then bullying, first to the assistant, then to you-You need couples counselling as well as his own counselling, otherwise l think your life together will never be happy.

AJLOAL · 20/05/2025 19:21

Outrageistheopiateofthemasses · 19/05/2025 17:22

He sounds like an absolute prick. I hate people that behave like this. Please don't pander to his twattery

Twattery, love it! I'm taking that lol.

TessTimoney · 20/05/2025 19:17

I don't approve of self service tills and refuse to use them. If the cashier refused to serve me, I would leave without making a purchase and would boycott that shop. I understand your DH frustration but that doesn't justify his behaviour.

mumofoneAlonebutokay · 20/05/2025 19:03

JWhipple · 20/05/2025 18:52

Id be "attitudey" if some bellend shouted at me for no reason and threw something at me when I just doing my job FFS.

And his mental health is absolutely not an excuse. Yes, he may be irritable because he's depressed. That does not mean everyone else just has to agree with him and tell him he's right all the time. And he does not get to make his partner (or anyone else) terrified to disagree with him.

I'm guessing he's not been to the GP about his mental health issues or tried any medication.

I dunno, shop assistants these days are rude tbh, and I worked in retail through my youth

Still, he had no business behaving like that, getting so worked up that he threw something, not acceptable

I don't think that people are 'terrified' to disagree, from what I recall at the time I posted that - just that, people don't want to respond to every little irritation like he does

JillAndJenTheFlowerpotMen · 20/05/2025 18:57

What makes you stay married to this fine specimen of a man?

tommyhoundmum · 20/05/2025 18:55

nomas · 20/05/2025 18:50

This is terrible. Why should OP lie and hope for the best? Why are women so conditioned to appease men?

A quiet life is no bad thing. If you have never lived with a bully it may be difficult to understand.

JWhipple · 20/05/2025 18:52

mumofoneAlonebutokay · 19/05/2025 17:24

ooo

you shouldn't have apologised for him BUT

He was very unreasonable to ask you to go and start an argument with the girl on his behalf! 😄

You were on the spot and stressed out by the phone call with him. But the girl sounds attitudey so you should have at least defended dh when she started speaking about him, by saying something like 'I think its crossed wires, as he thought you were being unhelpful. anyway, thanks, have a good day'.

But hindsight is a great thing, who's to say how they'd react under stress, especially if this has happened before, try not to worry yourself xx

I'd definitely avoid that shop though!

Edit, I've just reread it and I don't blame you at all! With his MH issues, he's likely escalating every situation and feels like the world is against him. You should defend your man but if he's exploding all of the time, you can't spend your life fighting for him. HE needs to get himself sorted x

Edited

Id be "attitudey" if some bellend shouted at me for no reason and threw something at me when I just doing my job FFS.

And his mental health is absolutely not an excuse. Yes, he may be irritable because he's depressed. That does not mean everyone else just has to agree with him and tell him he's right all the time. And he does not get to make his partner (or anyone else) terrified to disagree with him.

I'm guessing he's not been to the GP about his mental health issues or tried any medication.

GotToWearShades · 20/05/2025 18:51

I don't think I would have told the assistant it was your husband she was referring to or have got into any conversation at all.

However, I'd always assume my own partner/relative was in the right never a shop assistant I barely knew.

Why wouldn't they serve someone at the counter? It's like talking themselves of a job.

nomas · 20/05/2025 18:50

tommyhoundmum · 20/05/2025 18:45

This is a reasonable thing to say. Just cross yur fingers behind your back. Good luck.o

This is terrible. Why should OP lie and hope for the best? Why are women so conditioned to appease men?

nomas · 20/05/2025 18:49

This is not normal behaviour.

This will escalate into him telling you to kick
off with your family and his friends because of him.

I foresee a lot of emotional abuse for you if you stay with him.

tommyhoundmum · 20/05/2025 18:45

onceuponatimeinneverland · 19/05/2025 17:26

He sounds like a bully

Tell him the assistant he described wasn't on the shop floor

This is a reasonable thing to say. Just cross yur fingers behind your back. Good luck.o

Laura95167 · 20/05/2025 18:35

If he has a problem with everyone. The problem isn't everyone...

Boreded · 19/05/2025 19:07

Your husband is a POS. Who does he think he is throwing a magazine at someone.