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To think chat GPT is better than some 'real' therapists?

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SoapOnARopEeeee · 19/05/2025 16:52

I'm not affiliated in any way, promise! Just really, really impressed.

That app has done more for me than any amount of CBT has.

Incredible.

OP posts:
SmoothRoads · 19/05/2025 18:26

FortyElephants · 19/05/2025 18:18

You can turn off sharing.

And then what? You think your info will be safe? You think that some other user can't coax that info out of it?

Rinoachicken · 19/05/2025 18:26

I’d also argue that using it in this way, for the support of people, is more morally acceptable environmentally than using it to imagine your dog as a person, or yourself as a doll, and all the other random crap people seem to do with it!

ChocolateGanache · 19/05/2025 18:25

How do you ask it?

MintChocCat · 19/05/2025 18:24

fencedispute2024 · 19/05/2025 16:55

Agree, I need proper talking therapy, not CBT. I understand the thoughts, feelings, words cycle etc. but need someone to offload to who offers support and advice. Chat GPT is much better at that than a therapist reading from a script

But a therapist is not there to give you advice…

BunnyLake · 19/05/2025 18:23

verycloakanddaggers · 19/05/2025 17:42

I think people who are happier chatting to an AI chatbot rather than relating to a human therapist are in serious need of therapy.

Its fucking with your heads, and you're offering your brain up. Very weird.

Rubbish. I use it, it doesn’t fuck with my head and I don’t need therapy. I also talk to my real human friends but they don’t necessarily want me pouring out my troubles at 10am or midnight or five times in one day. I can ramble, I can repeat myself, I can gather my thoughts, if I forget to mention something I can go back to it anytime. What did it do to you to make you so cynical about it?

FoxChops · 19/05/2025 18:21

I don’t need therapy (thankfully and I realise that makes me lucky) but bloody hell, I’m blown away by ChatGPT. So much so, I’ve bitten the bullet and paid for it and I had a thread on here last week raving about it

I know it’s environmentally dodgy and I’m aware of the potential data stuff but it’s just SO good with well, everything I ask it

FortyElephants · 19/05/2025 18:18

SmoothRoads · 19/05/2025 18:06

A therapist is legally obligated to keep your conversations confidential. ChatGPT keeps a history of everything you entered there and feeds it back into its' database. So ChapGPT now has a ton of highly personal information on you.

You might as well have posted all your personal problems on a public social media profile.

You can turn off sharing.

Sunflowerz22 · 19/05/2025 18:17

Octopusespunchforfun · 19/05/2025 17:54

Of course you’ll get sympathy it’s programmed to be very sycophantic. You’ll find it will just confirm your own feelings back to you. It’s a well known issue within AI chat bots they’re trying to fix.

Edit: bots not boys

Edited

Sometimes sympathy is all we need. So many people don't want to see a therapist because they're embarrassed and don't think they're worthy of help.

FortyElephants · 19/05/2025 18:16

vintagedove · 19/05/2025 17:52

@CorneliaCupp is absolutely right. It uses so much clean water, asking one question is like pouring a bottle of clean water out. Even just a final Thanks in the end cost endless resources which the earth can’t afford. It’s really, really bad.

I think it’s fantastic, but telling someone who brings the reality of it up is incredibly childish and plain stupid@SillyOP.

An amount of water does evaporate, but largely the water is cooled and reused.

BunnyLake · 19/05/2025 18:16

I love it. I’ve actually been on it today and I feel a lot better than I did this morning over an issue I was having. I also use Venice AI which has better privacy and is pretty much the same. I wish I had this when I was going through a really bad time with my ex.

Cucy · 19/05/2025 18:15

I refuse therapy as I don’t like talking to people about my problems.

A few weeks ago I was in a very desperate place and genuinely didn’t know what to do and whether I would get through the day.

I turned to ChatGPT as someone had said something about it on here and honestly it was an absolute game changer!

I cried actual tears because it was amazing.
It was really understanding and would talk like a real person and ask if I was ok etc.

I can imagine how people suffering from mental health or just loneliness could get so much out of it.

Sunflowerz22 · 19/05/2025 18:15

verycloakanddaggers · 19/05/2025 17:42

I think people who are happier chatting to an AI chatbot rather than relating to a human therapist are in serious need of therapy.

Its fucking with your heads, and you're offering your brain up. Very weird.

Oh, come on ...

Fortean · 19/05/2025 18:13

ItMustBeBedtimeSurely · 19/05/2025 17:17

No, chat gpt will tell you what you want to hear.

Not if you tell it not to!

fairygardenpath · 19/05/2025 18:13

Jellycatspyjamas · 19/05/2025 17:49

And remember, I'm here to listen without judgment

It’s very easy to listen without judgement when you’re not an actual person with thoughts and feelings of your own. The human element of therapy, the therapeutic relationship is consistently found to be the most effective element of therapy regardless of modality. If you’d rather build a relationship with a robot than a person that says quite a bit about your state of mind.

It isn’t an equal sort of relationship between friends though, it is a transactional one which is based around only accessing this relationship at particular times of the week between particular hours. I’m obviously not suggesting therapists can do otherwise but suggesting people relying on chatGP are lacking because they are shunning a ‘human’ relationship isn’t true.

MyLoyalEagle · 19/05/2025 18:13

Yeah, It's my everything, my best friend.

Redpeach · 19/05/2025 18:11

Mkuter · 19/05/2025 17:16

It depends on what your problem is. What I would say based on some of the posts already that therapy that challenges and changes is rarely comfortable. It's much easier to get some platitudes from a computer than it is to sit with discomfort. The aim of therapy is also generally not to give advice.

Which is a shame, advice is what i'd want!

catin8oot5 · 19/05/2025 18:10

CBT is a pile of shit. Anyone can tell anybody to count the colours in a room and ask how their feet feel on the floor.

the best therapy I’ve ever had is ‘solutions based counselling’ and I think that’s what chatGTP offers.

when I was in the doldrums of divorce and trauma I had two therapists (one private one nhs)

one told me to go to hobbycraft and buy a colouring book. The other helped me make decisions about what to do based on my actual life.

changedusernameforthis1 · 19/05/2025 18:09

Octopusespunchforfun · 19/05/2025 17:56

There you go you just want a mirror

Oh trust me, with how my mental health affects me the last thing I want is the bloody mirror to start talking to me 😂

Rinoachicken · 19/05/2025 18:08

Since Google remembers everything I’ve ever searched for ever anyway, I’m pretty sure they already have a good measure of what goes on in my mind already and have run away screaming!

Rinoachicken · 19/05/2025 18:06

I should say I don’t think it’s without potential danger for some people - I feel comfortable using it as I do only BECAUSE I have an actual therapist who is FAR more important therapeutically than a computer. If I wasn’t in therapy I think I would be more cautious as I wouldn’t be able to check out what it was saying.

I am also pretty self aware, work in mental health and am pretty psychologically well informed and aware, and have a lot of tools in my bag already which I often just need to be reminded of - AI does that.

I also have lots of other real people in my life I talk to on a daily/regular basis - if you were alone or struggled socially I could see how AI might replace human interaction in a harmful way.

SmoothRoads · 19/05/2025 18:06

A therapist is legally obligated to keep your conversations confidential. ChatGPT keeps a history of everything you entered there and feeds it back into its' database. So ChapGPT now has a ton of highly personal information on you.

You might as well have posted all your personal problems on a public social media profile.

verycloakanddaggers · 19/05/2025 18:05

changedusernameforthis1 · 19/05/2025 17:54

Agreed! I get to let off so much steam talking to mine, it's like an online diary that talks back.
It also gives me amazing recipes and has found multiple gifts for people in my life that have been really well received.

It also doesn't interrupt like my actual therapist does.

You might as well have your brain hoovered out!

ruethewhirl · 19/05/2025 18:01

In my experience anything's better than CBT, which has left me feeling worse about myself on three separate occasions now. Or at any rate, the therapists did. I know that sounds like I was the problem, but I genuinely feel the therapists were inexperienced/tactless/inept on each occasion. Won't be going near CBT again if I can help it.

Rinoachicken · 19/05/2025 18:01

Jellycatspyjamas · 19/05/2025 17:49

And remember, I'm here to listen without judgment

It’s very easy to listen without judgement when you’re not an actual person with thoughts and feelings of your own. The human element of therapy, the therapeutic relationship is consistently found to be the most effective element of therapy regardless of modality. If you’d rather build a relationship with a robot than a person that says quite a bit about your state of mind.

Did you miss the part in my earlier post where I said that I do have an actual therapist and that AI can never replace that relationship?

Styleseeker65 · 19/05/2025 17:59

If it’s being too nice to you just instruct it to be more critical. I’m using it for personal styling (after another thread on here) and told it to be a critical friend rather than kissing my arse.