Starmer is about to reverse Brexit

Anyway, I am delighted at adults finally being back in the room, and by nothing as much as how ludicrous, dated and stupid that prick Johnson sounded with the exactly identical sub-Wodehouse wankery he has trotted out for years.

If nothing else, there is comfort in being so totally over him, the absolute window.

Overall I was and am of the view that the UK is long term better off out of the EU.

However, that is not the same as saying "nothing to do with" the EU, or Europe.

Of course the UK will have all kinds of relationships and interactions with Europe, from NATO, to making agreements about how to manage travel and trade, and more.

Whether any of these particular things are good or bad will depend on the thing, I expect they'll get some right and some wrong.

Very interesting - thanks. Even though it's only at 1% in the current vote, it goes up and down a lot but so far the preference for rejoining is consistent.

And of course everything, including rejoining, will be 'worse than before' because we had an excellent deal, 40 years of negotiated concessions and a major seat at the table. All thrown in the bin.

Close ties can only help, given the orange one’s crazy tariffs. Reciprocal trade with Europe would hopefully not involve major penalties. Does the OP not know the origin of EDF? There are no doubt loads of European companies over here (looking at the Square mile bankers I know) but EDF is, I think, rather huge. I could fancy easier recruitment too, Brexit screwed over my section of teaching.

Was that because he dissolved the electorate and appointed a new one?

/nichejoke

He’s not. He’s about to give the EU many if the benefits of U.K. membership of the EU, without giving the U.K. any if the benefits of EU membership. It’s utterly pig headed.
Really, we can sell to European countries, access is going to be easier over time. We will have a revenue stream, Erasmus is restarting. And as an added benefit we’re sorting out some joint secure.
If you’re to daft to realise that Putin would not have made the moves he has without Brexit; so essentially he’s made a safer place for us. May not be as safe as we want but we’re thanks to this, we’re working toward it. So yes, there are some benefits.

Apart from the benefits of being able to sell food and drink and plants to the EU without paperwork or checks?

But it is not even blue!
It is so dark that it looks like black...

This is true. Eurovision banned the EU flag.

Oh,I agree that it would be hugely better if Brexit had never happened. As I said, this only benefit , and I concede this is only a possible benefit to leisure travellers who may like them as a souvenir, against which shouldn't set massive damage to many individuals and industries. I don't know a single person has benefited from Brexit, though a few must exist, but I do know people whose businesses have been very badly affected.
Egate queues at Heathrow T2 were massive last Thursday and people were being directed to the manned positions that had about a dozen customers so it may not necessarily be a benefit. I always get through at places like Stockholm and Helsinki in less than 5 minutes even with stamping.

I quite enjoy Sartre, especially Le Diable et le Bon Dieu. But that could be too European.

How so? Can you elaborate?

I didn’t vote for Brecht

Agreed. Beckett is much more accessible

😅Sorry, couldn't resist.

I'm excited because it means I can spend more time in Europe with my rellies without having to laboriously count days so I don't go over (huge fines if you do, and banned from Schengen countries for between one and two years)

Perhaps it means being part of European Free Trade Area like Switzerland or Norway. So a part of the marketplace and therefore subject to the rules on products and foods but not a full EU member.

I didn’t vote for Brecht but I assumed this would be the deal struck at exit. It sort of seems like a sensible middle ground.

1. No it doesn't
2. GW has nothing to do with dungeons and dragons

Eurovision is nothing to do with the EU. Only utter numpties believe it is.

He isn’t rejoining the EU and even if he were he wouldn’t be going against Brexit. The ballot didn’t say “Leave and never rejoin” it just said “Leave”

The UK has left the EU

There is nothing immoral about changing its mind and rejoining.

I'm excited to hear Viviennemary's explanation of how Brexit has been reversed!

What utter bilge!

He’s not. He’s about to give the EU many if the benefits of U.K. membership of the EU, without giving the U.K. any if the benefits of EU membership. It’s utterly pig headed.

'In 2023, the UK fishing fleet's revenue from landings reached £1.1 billion, with a total catch of 719 thousand tonnes. This represented an increase of 5% in value compared to 2022, mainly driven by an 12% increase in the quantity of fish landed, though some of these were lower value fish. '

Games Workshop must be doing well.

He can't do anything about Brexit and even if the UK voted to re-join in another referendum, it would take years and the EU might not even take us back!

But Europe is a big trading partner and getting the best trade deals possible with the EU is important.

What an appalling comment.