Starmer is about to reverse Brexit

You seem to frame this as “all the other member states acted as one against the UK” which is a very skewed take.

The leaving the EU vote was nearly 10 years ago now and so I think we should repeat it.
Any responsible politician should be calling for this specifically because Brexit has fucked the UK up economically so badly and because the global security landscape has been completely upended by Putin and now Trump. It’s completely foolhardy and unsafe for the UK to stay outside the EU.
People’s lives here have already got poorer and opportunities much more diminished since we left the EU but that could look like a picnic compared to the future.

Sums it up for me...

Great. Well people like you who couldn't be arsed to vote are the reason we ended up leaving.

mmmmmm is that all you've got? some unrelated Whataboutery? and name calling?

I guess you agree they are hypocrites then, took advantage of all the EEC/EU had to offer, secured their own futures, then did actually stop or make it very difficult for anyone else to do the same....

Thats the problem with Brexitiers, they lack any awareness of their own actions, its all about them, and stuff anyone else.

I didn't bother to vote in the 2016 referendum as I thought it would be inconceivable we would vote to leave what was a very agreeable and profitable collaboration with our own continent

you didn’t vote…there is no we

brexitbarbie · Yesterday 15:14

You are mistaken. The UK could only approve or veto new proposals. That is not democracy.

What an ignorant load of pish.

As if Britan had no members, or influence on the European Commission. As if a veto isn't a no. Jeez, Britain had more concessions than the rest of the EU together and voted for more than 2,000 out of 2,200 proposals, with most of the losses having little, or no effect upon us.

Energy efficient light bulbs imposed by the EU.

You know who proposed that, right? Why yes! It was Britain.

Here's a fun fact - prior to Brexit the UK was the fifth largest economy.

It’s not being reversed.
Blatantly lying to the public is not democracy.
HTH.

I’m still waiting for the independent economic forecasting to support your statement that ‘getting involved with the EU’ will cost us money.

The three bodies, again, are just those of a parliamentary democracy. The Council is the Ministers (our cabinet), the Commission is the government, and then we have the legislative house, the parliament. The UK had commissioners, officers, and committee members (those that turned up of course) so had input into the creation of policy throughout our membership.

@MissCharlotteLutterell "On animal welfare - obviously I'm pleased we have a UK Act on this. But if we had remained in the EU we could have continued to push for protection of so many more animals across the whole continent."

So why in the 47 years we were in the EU when we were "pushing" did this not happen? (And still hasn't happened?)

And I'm still waiting for you to tell me what EU laws the UK helped write ?

And as there are 3 bodies that help make laws

1. the European Parliament, representing EU citizens
2. the Council of the European Union, representing governments of EU countries
3. the European Commission, representing the EU’s overall interests

No 3 will always take piority

And any trade deals needed to be approved by other Member States
This means that even after the European Parliament and Council approve a trade agreement, it needs to be ratified by the national parliaments or governments of each EU member state before it can fully take effect. So UK had to dance to the tune of 47 (?) other countries.

Don't forget the Lancashire cotton industry's decline was due to EU tariffs favoring the Italian garment industry. This is just protectionism.

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You realise you're just describing the functioning of a parliamentary democracy? The executive proposes policy and the legislative passes it. Just like in the UK. There's nothing unusual or secretive about the way it operates. The only way a member of the European Parliament has no say is if they just don't turn up to take part in its proceedings. That's a democratic failure obviously.

And also not sure what point you're making about Eurosceptic Labour MPs? There were eurosceptics across the political spectrum. I think everyone knows that. Just as there were enthusiastic europhiles.

The UK has had to make bilateral trade deals with a variety of nations in lieu of the ones it had as part of the EU, but with significantly less economic heft than it had as part of such a large trading bloc.

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I wish!

We have these things called 'historians'.

Are you that old ??

God, I hope he does. Worst thing for the UK since Suez.

Nowadays, the EU approves on average 80 directives, 1200 regulations and 700 decisions per year.

So how many were applied to UK during our membership, I wonder?

Explain how Brexit was in any way, shape, or form a win for the British fishing industry...

@MissCharlotteLutterell "Yes, the Commission proposes the laws but this doesn't mean they just happen in a vacuum away from the key institution of the European Parliament."

So which EU Laws did the UK have a major part in shaping?

Brexit - Vote to Make Your Country Poorer.

@MissCharlotteLutterell "But if we had remained in the EU we could have continued to push for protection of so many more animals across the whole continent."

Really?

It was some EU Members that wanted to continue this cruel practice,

Some argued that a ban would disrupt existing trade agreements and potentially damage the economies.

Those countries in the EU that used horsemeat were vociferous in objecting to a ban on this trade

https://www.brusselstimes.com/356621/some-eu-member-states-oppose-a-ban-on-live-animal-export

Sure is. It’s unreal that some people are still defending this act of economic and political self harm.