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Starmer is about to reverse Brexit

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TheQuirkyMaker · 19/05/2025 11:27

Is is right that an unpopular govt can reverse the democratic wishes of the UK to have nothing to do with Europe?

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BIossomtoes · 26/05/2025 11:36

I found one - the non EU passport queue at Pisa airport was much, much shorter than the EU one. One benefit in nine years.

DuncinToffee · 26/05/2025 11:24

Bit like finding brexit benefits......

brexitbarbie · 26/05/2025 10:56

HangryLikeTheHulk · 26/05/2025 10:37

I was responding directly to the OP. You involved yourself.

My points are still valid.

The OP hasn't responded, so have fun talking to yourself about things that may never happen 🙄

HangryLikeTheHulk · 26/05/2025 10:37

brexitbarbie · 26/05/2025 10:34

Yes, go and berate the person who said that, not me !

I really don't know why you are getting your panties in a bunch about something that may never happen.

We are 4 years away from a General Election. It is not certain that Reform would be elected and even so, that they would want to rip up a load of legislation.

It seems to me that you're "shouting before you're hurt"

I was responding directly to the OP. You involved yourself.

brexitbarbie · 26/05/2025 10:34

HangryLikeTheHulk · 26/05/2025 10:22

Maybe we need to hear from the OP who claimed

“We'll have less in the way of "uman rites" and "elf'n'safety" legislation so we can unleash productivity. We shall also scrap Net Zero and all the crazy DEI initiatives which are crippling the UK labour market.”

Somehow celebrating the removal of workers right, protections and the laws which protect women against discrimination. Baffling. Only exploitative turbocapitalist fatcats could possibly support exploiting the workforce in the name of productivity. Any working class person who supports Reform is completely deluded.

Yes, go and berate the person who said that, not me !

I really don't know why you are getting your panties in a bunch about something that may never happen.

We are 4 years away from a General Election. It is not certain that Reform would be elected and even so, that they would want to rip up a load of legislation.

It seems to me that you're "shouting before you're hurt"

HangryLikeTheHulk · 26/05/2025 10:22

brexitbarbie · 26/05/2025 10:18

I wasn't aware it was going to remove any, so you have the advantage on me there.

More info here - https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/feb/21/labour-workers-rights-bill-voters-reform

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Maybe we need to hear from the OP who claimed

“We'll have less in the way of "uman rites" and "elf'n'safety" legislation so we can unleash productivity. We shall also scrap Net Zero and all the crazy DEI initiatives which are crippling the UK labour market.”

Somehow celebrating the removal of workers right, protections and the laws which protect women against discrimination. Baffling. Only exploitative turbocapitalist fatcats could possibly support exploiting the workforce in the name of productivity. Any working class person who supports Reform is completely deluded.

brexitbarbie · 26/05/2025 10:18

HangryLikeTheHulk · 26/05/2025 10:14

So what H&S legislation is Reform planning to remove ? It’s there for a reason.

I wasn't aware it was going to remove any, so you have the advantage on me there.

More info here - https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/feb/21/labour-workers-rights-bill-voters-reform

HangryLikeTheHulk · 26/05/2025 10:14

brexitbarbie · 26/05/2025 10:13

@HangryLikeTheHulk "So remove the hard-won protections for British workers to not suffer accidents and injuries at work, and allow them to be exploited by turbo-capitalist corporate elites like Tice & Farage."

Stop being so dramatic.

We have plenty of H & S laws to protect workers, but some workers ignore the rules and end up getting injured.
Some are just simple things like using ear protectors or safety specs which they can't be bothered with.

You can't legislate against idiocy

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So what H&S legislation is Reform planning to remove ? It’s there for a reason.

brexitbarbie · 26/05/2025 10:13

@HangryLikeTheHulk "So remove the hard-won protections for British workers to not suffer accidents and injuries at work, and allow them to be exploited by turbo-capitalist corporate elites like Tice & Farage."

Stop being so dramatic.

We have plenty of H & S laws to protect workers, but some workers ignore the rules and end up getting injured.
Some are just simple things like using ear protectors or safety specs which they can't be bothered with.

You can't legislate against idiocy

brexitbarbie · 26/05/2025 10:06

DuncinToffee · 26/05/2025 09:57

From his partners Dubai home then seeing he is splitting his time between Skegness and there

I'm not arguing with you.

HangryLikeTheHulk · 26/05/2025 10:06

TheQuirkyMaker · 24/05/2025 21:56

No, Nige reckons Brexit hasn't been done, which is why it is appears a disaster. He and Tice will stop all immigration, develop a closer relationship with the US, and make benefit claimants earn their benefits.
We'll have less in the way of "uman rites" and "elf'n'safety" legislation so we can unleash productivity. We shall also scrap Net Zero and all the crazy DEI initiatives which are crippling the UK labour market. It is worth a try, don't you think?

So remove the hard-won protections for British workers to not suffer accidents and injuries at work, and allow them to be exploited by turbo-capitalist corporate elites like Tice & Farage.

Stopping all immigration would be idiotic in the extreme, we don’t have enough workers as it is.

And net zero is essential to the long term survival of civilisation.

DuncinToffee · 26/05/2025 09:57

From his partners Dubai home then seeing he is splitting his time between Skegness and there

brexitbarbie · 26/05/2025 09:56

@Whoarethoseguys "And why would the UK want to get closer to the USA when it is run by someone who changes his kind every two minutes and not our European neighbours?"

And why would UK want to get closer to the EU when so many of it's members' economies are failing due to financial problems?

"Being neighbours" means naff all. No neighbours are better than bad neighbours.

brexitbarbie · 26/05/2025 09:51

DuncinToffee · 25/05/2025 10:02

Will Tice stop all immigration from his Dubai home🤔

Tice doesn't live in Dubai.

His partner does and he flies out to visit her from time to time.

Stop spreading misinformation

brexitbarbie · 26/05/2025 09:48

Oioisavaloy27 · 21/05/2025 14:41

The Sun???? Lol

Just because it's in The Sun doesn't mean it isn't true.

ToWhitToWhoo · 25/05/2025 10:24

DuncinToffee · 25/05/2025 10:02

Will Tice stop all immigration from his Dubai home🤔

Quite, that's just what I was thinking! Not to mention Farage owning a home in Belgium, and seeming to spend more time in the USA than in Clacton,

DuncinToffee · 25/05/2025 10:02

Will Tice stop all immigration from his Dubai home🤔

TooBigForMyBoots · 25/05/2025 01:40

TheQuirkyMaker · 24/05/2025 21:56

No, Nige reckons Brexit hasn't been done, which is why it is appears a disaster. He and Tice will stop all immigration, develop a closer relationship with the US, and make benefit claimants earn their benefits.
We'll have less in the way of "uman rites" and "elf'n'safety" legislation so we can unleash productivity. We shall also scrap Net Zero and all the crazy DEI initiatives which are crippling the UK labour market. It is worth a try, don't you think?

He and Tice will stop all immigration,
No they won't.

...develop a closer relationship with the US
Have you seen the state of the US? It's an increasingly unstable society, an increasing security risk with an increasingly unstable economy. Why would we want a closer relationship to that?🤯

No, we must wean ourselves away from our reliance on the US.

BIossomtoes · 24/05/2025 22:16

TheQuirkyMaker · 24/05/2025 21:56

No, Nige reckons Brexit hasn't been done, which is why it is appears a disaster. He and Tice will stop all immigration, develop a closer relationship with the US, and make benefit claimants earn their benefits.
We'll have less in the way of "uman rites" and "elf'n'safety" legislation so we can unleash productivity. We shall also scrap Net Zero and all the crazy DEI initiatives which are crippling the UK labour market. It is worth a try, don't you think?

No, nothing’s worth trying when it would obviously be catastrophic.

Whoarethoseguys · 24/05/2025 22:16

TheQuirkyMaker · 24/05/2025 21:56

No, Nige reckons Brexit hasn't been done, which is why it is appears a disaster. He and Tice will stop all immigration, develop a closer relationship with the US, and make benefit claimants earn their benefits.
We'll have less in the way of "uman rites" and "elf'n'safety" legislation so we can unleash productivity. We shall also scrap Net Zero and all the crazy DEI initiatives which are crippling the UK labour market. It is worth a try, don't you think?

No, because it's all compete nonsense and the only people who would benefit are Nigel and his very rich friends.
And why would the UK want to get closer to the USA when it is run by someone who changes his kind every two minutes and not our European neighbours?

DuncinToffee · 24/05/2025 22:02

Nige is wrong, Brexit is done, the UK left the EU

And no, it's not worth a try to destroy the UK

TheQuirkyMaker · 24/05/2025 21:56

BIossomtoes · 24/05/2025 15:10

Farage reckons it’s done and we shouldn’t be talking about it any more.

No, Nige reckons Brexit hasn't been done, which is why it is appears a disaster. He and Tice will stop all immigration, develop a closer relationship with the US, and make benefit claimants earn their benefits.
We'll have less in the way of "uman rites" and "elf'n'safety" legislation so we can unleash productivity. We shall also scrap Net Zero and all the crazy DEI initiatives which are crippling the UK labour market. It is worth a try, don't you think?

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ToWhitToWhoo · 24/05/2025 17:24

BIossomtoes · 24/05/2025 15:10

Farage reckons it’s done and we shouldn’t be talking about it any more.

Well, before the Referendum, Farage, anticipating a narrow majority for Remain, said that a 52-48 vote would be 'unfinished business by a long way'. He actually used those very numbers!

ToWhitToWhoo · 24/05/2025 17:20

First of all, he isn't going to reverse Brexit. I might WISH he was, but he isn't!

Secondly, it's likely that people if given the vote now would vote differently from 2016- if only because of the antics of Trump and Putin.

Thirdly, voting Leave did not necessarily mean voting to have 'nothing to do with Europe'. For example, Norway and Switzerland aren't in the EU, and they have plenty to do with Europe!

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