Vaccination against cervical cancer/HPV

Yup, they do. And if you haven’t had the vaccine yourself, you can always have ot- even later in life, although y8 before sexually active has the best efficacy.
Denmark vaccinates boys & girls.

But how are is to understand? You are very defensive and have an attitude with people hive you the reasons why. Are you okay? Don’t ask a question then get snarky because you don’t like what they write.

No, as many of other posters have said it’s done at this age or similar before they are sexual active. You can get it through close contact that isn’t sexual. Mothers can also pass it on during childbirth. I don’t see giving it at this age is a big deal. Surely it’s a good thing. At 12 years old you can start becoming sexual active. So if you give it at that age it say 14 it might be too late.

It's a very weird thread. And literally the first respond adequately explained the reasoning, behind it. But OP still seemed to want someone to tell her it meant that kids are having sex at 12 if the vaccine is recommended at 11.

Just gonna leave this here. FYI- yes most ppl do clear HPV virus naturally. It does not lie dormant and there are many strains of HPV.

www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/human-papilloma-virus-and-cancer

But also the OP is wrong about when it’s given, it can be given as young as 11, but as it’s aimed to be given in year 8 or 9, so between 12 and 14.

this is both to try to get it done before children become sexually active, having the two year groups means most will be jabbed in year 8, but if you were off school that day, can be caught up in year 9 when the school immunisation team visit to jab the year 8s, and they tend to avoid much going into year 10 and 11 as those are important school years.

I’ve not heard of any area doing these jabs in year 7. But if you want to take your child to have their immunisations at the doctors, not have them done at school (which some people do due for various reasons), you can have this one from the age of 11.

This post is very off.

The OP seems to be weirdly fixated with children being sexually active.

You are intentionally being stupid right…the age of 11 is when they are saying that ‘all’ children likely would not have become sexually active (and obviously I realise that it isn’t going to be all, but the vast majority). The longer they leave it the more children will have begun to catch it.

No, it's easier to catch than that, what with 11 year olds not having sex as a rule - it is, however, potentially catastrophic to a foetus, which is something that happens only when sexual contact takes place (legal or otherwise) and is exactly why the vaccination was given prior to any likely sexual activity.

Unless you think that Public Health measures specifically intended to protect as yet unconceived infants was also to 'encourage' 12 year olds to think they could have sex despite being so young that they cannot consent in any form? If so, does giving 15 month old babies the MMR encourage sex? Obviously not.

Vaccination against Rubella prior to any realistic likelihood of sexual activity protects girls from giving birth to severely disabled babies or miscarrying in the future and boys from transmitting Rubella to unvaccinated girls and women who have conceived, vaccination against HPV prior to any realistic likelihood of sexual activity protects boys and girls from cancers in the future.

No it's fucking not. I was at primary school when I was 11 and I didn't have a clue about sex. Bit weird to be banging on about primary school/just starting secondary school aged kids having sex.

No, not at all. If they wait until the age at which the majority are beginning to be sexually active, then they won't be doing anything to protect the 49% who are active earlier. They've set the age to try and vaccinate before any of them are sexually active. There's no harm in vaccinating early than necessary for the majority; there is harm in vaccinating too late.

"they may have only tested and received approval to give that particular vaccine to the girls of that age. The NHS may have only had limited funding available, and as such decided to limit the provision at that point in time to girls of that age."

Well exactly. They vaccinated girls because they are the ones who grow into pregnant women.

In the UK it changed a year or so ago to one dose, I think when it changed to the nonovalent vaccine.

Is it one dose? My daughter got one at 12 and one this year at 14.

I'm in the US, maybe it's different.

Annoying OP and thread. Dumb

So? Surely the point is that they are done? Unclear why you are picking up on this other than a decision to be pedantic? I can only go on what my personal experience is in the UK: And doctors have always done my smear tests.

The point is to get the smear test done by someone who is qualified to do them.

@Caligirl,It’s relevant when discussing the UK vaccination programme that the vast vast majority of smears here are done by nurses, not Drs.

A lot of this is taking bout consensual sexual acivity.

We shouldn't forget that sadly some children will be sexually abuse.

Im in favour of anything to minimise harm to children.

Yikes are you really that bothered about who does the smear test? I've always gotten mine done by a doctor - but each to their own - it doesn't really matter who does it as long as the person is trained to do them and does them correctly, and is trained to notice any other visual abnormalities.

Incorrect: there are many reasons why they may not have vaccinated boys at the time you are concerned with: they may have only tested and received approval to give that particular vaccine to the girls of that age. The NHS may have only had limited funding available, and as such decided to limit the provision at that point in time to girls of that age.

The fact is that we now vaccinate boys against german measles. Why? So that women who are pregnant are protected. So, my argument is correct. I had german measles at the time the MMR vaccine was available - but I hadn't been given the rubella vaccine because of a medical issue - that meant I could only - at that time - have the mumps and measles vaccination - not the rubella one.

I believe it's just one vaccine now (it was two when mine had it).

No, presumably it's an age where it's safe to assume that the vast majority have not started to have sex. Why would you wait until the ones who have sex earlier have already started to do so?

Smear tests have changed somewhat. They’re only testing for the presence of some strains of HPV in the UK now.

Only if they find HPV will they go on to test the sample for cell changes.

Non-HPV cervical cancer is thankfully very rare, though.