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Is he a genuine friend it is he manipulating me?

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Openhandsy · 19/05/2025 03:17

I've become really good friends with this guy I met a few months ago, and I truly admire and respect him. He and I have had a really brilliant and wonderful time together. While we come from different backgrounds – my parents have achieved a lot professionally, and I've also been fortunate in my own career, whereas his family background involves a lot of criminality – this has never been an issue for me. I've never judged him for his family's past, nor have I ever commented on it to him. In fact, I've actually found his perspective really interesting and have been so impressed by everything he's achieved through his own efforts, despite a more challenging start. However, he has recently started making comments that suggest he thinks my parents' achievements are just down to luck, which feels dismissive.

Initially, it was crystal clear that our relationship was a friendship, and I've even reiterated this a few times. However, I am becoming increasingly concerned that he may have developed romantic feelings for me, which I absolutely do not reciprocate, and I worry about inadvertently leading him on.
Initially, I even found it quite lovely that we seemed to connect on a deeper level, sharing ideas and often having similar turns of phrase – it felt like we were really on the same wavelength. However, more recently, I've noticed a pattern where it sometimes feels less like a natural understanding and more like a direct echo of things I've just said.

For instance, our ideas of a typical weekend are quite different. I might enjoy playing tennis and then visiting an art exhibition, whereas his preference is usually watching football and having a barbecue with his friends. In general, I have a real interest in experiencing different cultures, traveling, and exploring diverse foods. It feels like his experiences in these areas might be more limited; for example, he considers a barbecue to be quite an adventurous outing. These differences in our backgrounds and what we've been exposed to sometimes feel quite significant.

More recently, a couple of things happened at an event we both attended that have really thrown me. Firstly, I had a pleasant conversation with a very attractive gentleman there, and he admired a small, unique item I had with me. He borrowed it briefly and returned it to me in pristine condition. Much later in the evening, my friend also asked to see the item, held it for a short period, and then handed it back to me to put directly into my bag. When I got home, I was shocked to find it was quite badly broken – the damage was severe and would have required significant force, certainly not something that could have happened accidentally in my bag on the way home.

Following this incident, I once again tried to gently reinforce that our relationship is a friendship. His response was to say, "Why do you keep mentioning that? Of course, it is!" which made me feel like he was either completely oblivious to my concerns or deliberately avoiding the topic. It feels impossible to address a potential issue when the other person acts as if it doesn't exist.
These recent incidents, particularly the broken item and the strange dynamics at the event, have made me question some of the earlier aspects of our friendship, including the mirroring of ideas and expressions. While at first, I took this as a sign of our connection, I'm now starting to wonder if this mirroring is genuine or if it's a deliberate tactic. Could he be doing this to make me feel closer to him than he actually is?

This friendship has been really important to me, and has been of such a sustained outstanding quality , that I would not take ending it lightly.

I’m confused by this turn of events. I did try to discuss the miscommunication at the event, but he wasn't receptive.
AIBU to feel really hurt and confused by all of this? Given the differences in our backgrounds and the recent strange occurrences, is there a way to navigate this and potentially salvage the friendship when open conversation seems difficult? What would you do in this situation?

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No3392 · 20/05/2025 12:50

I came back to hopefully find out what the item was. Disappointed.

TallulahBetty · 20/05/2025 11:53

myplace · 20/05/2025 10:28

This has been a short friendship- you can afford to end it.
And I would.
I’m not surprised by the posts commenting on the OP’s use of language. It doesn’t bother me as many ND family members use archaic formal language and wonder if I’m ND too.

I am surprised by the many posters who don’t see red flags on the chap. He’s walking scarlet bunting.

Of course he is. Sadly, he is also a fictional character

myplace · 20/05/2025 10:28

This has been a short friendship- you can afford to end it.
And I would.
I’m not surprised by the posts commenting on the OP’s use of language. It doesn’t bother me as many ND family members use archaic formal language and wonder if I’m ND too.

I am surprised by the many posters who don’t see red flags on the chap. He’s walking scarlet bunting.

HelloMyNameIsElderSmurf · 20/05/2025 10:18

SafeToUse · 19/05/2025 17:12

I'm going to take this post at face value, for the craic.

OP your writing style is quite unusual, in my mind's eye I was picturing an 80 yo retired college professor who looks somewhat like Miss Marple, who has acquired an "interesting specimen " of a member of the working class, perhaps a plumber? As a "friend".

While OP is enjoying studying her interesting specimen (IS) in varying social occasions, IS is mirroring her, giving her what she craves (attention from a young man, bit of rough perhaps) until, inevitably, IS shows his true colours by reverting to (stereo)type.

OP, when you discovered your item was broken, why did you not immediately ring him to say, "young man, you have damaged my precious item irrevocably, and I hereby demand that you repair or replace it forthwith?" That would have been the obvious action. But no, instead you reminded him that you are just good friends.

In short, your story needs a lot more work.

C- at best.

Just catching up, but hey now - if he’s an actual plumber all bets are off. Do you know how hard it is to find a plumber these days? I wouldn’t mind my faberge eggs getting scrambled if I had someone who could actually fix my boiler!

JLou08 · 19/05/2025 19:11

How did you develop a friendship of outstanding quality if he was mirroring you? I couldn't be stimulated by someone mirroring me.
Why is his family history relevant? Especially when you say that he has done well? Do you think a man from a working class background is more likely to be manipulative?
The posts stinks of classism to me, unless you do have some genuine reasons for discussing the family history and for the patronising comment about him seeing BBQs as a big outing.

AJ20 · 19/05/2025 18:50

Yanbu, he sounds like a grade A narc and someone you should distance from ASAP.

If your fight your instincts, you'll have much worse to deal with in the future and it will be much harder to deal with. Trust me I've been there.

mixedcereal · 19/05/2025 18:45

Can a friendship be of such a “sustained and outstanding quality” if you only known him for “a few months”
you seem to be very focused on different backgrounds - this is quite unusual as an adult I think? You seem to be overthinking it an awful lot.

SafeToUse · 19/05/2025 17:12

I'm going to take this post at face value, for the craic.

OP your writing style is quite unusual, in my mind's eye I was picturing an 80 yo retired college professor who looks somewhat like Miss Marple, who has acquired an "interesting specimen " of a member of the working class, perhaps a plumber? As a "friend".

While OP is enjoying studying her interesting specimen (IS) in varying social occasions, IS is mirroring her, giving her what she craves (attention from a young man, bit of rough perhaps) until, inevitably, IS shows his true colours by reverting to (stereo)type.

OP, when you discovered your item was broken, why did you not immediately ring him to say, "young man, you have damaged my precious item irrevocably, and I hereby demand that you repair or replace it forthwith?" That would have been the obvious action. But no, instead you reminded him that you are just good friends.

In short, your story needs a lot more work.

C- at best.

zingally · 19/05/2025 16:37

Sometimes exciting new friendships stick and turn into something deeper, and sometimes they don't.

Your very flowery, "over-written" post puts me in mind of someone who over-thinks way too hard. It hardly seems like the meeting of souls you've made it seem. You'd rather be travelling and eating fancy food, and he'd rather be at a bbq with his mates. What's the connection?

If you can say, hand on heart, that you know he broke this special item, then I think that's all the reason you need to break the friendship off.

ChickenEggChicken · 19/05/2025 16:14

pinkdelight · 19/05/2025 10:05

Ooh yes, handbags are a great visual metaphor for fannies so the delicate item is very likely some symbolic hymen. Perhaps a Faberge egg or pinned butterfly.

I am going to refer to my vagina as my ‘Fabergé egg’ from now on. I’m also going to take it to mysterious events to lend it to ‘very attractive gentlemen’ on the grounds they return it in ‘pristine condition’, but I will always check it before I put it back in my handbag to go home, just in case.

Roxietrees · 19/05/2025 16:07

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EmmaWoodhouseOfHighbury · 19/05/2025 13:59

Roxietrees · 19/05/2025 10:14

It’s not eloquent. It reads like it’s been written either by AI or by an aristocratic lady in the 1800s. “a relationship of sustained, outstanding quality” who writes this on a casual chat forum?!

Eleanor Oliphant?

If this is real and you're ND, you need to extricate yourself very carefully from this friendship.

Boreded · 19/05/2025 13:58

SueblueNZ · 19/05/2025 04:32

@Boreded The OP has written very eloquently. Maybe you are not used to eloquence.
To your question, OP. I would edge myself out of the friendship by putting gradually more space between your meet-ups. I think he has proven who he is. Of course he would never admit to breaking your treasure, even if you raised it with him. But you know (and I know) that he vandalised that item; why else would he want to put it into your bag rather than into your hand.
I think he is playing you. Do you feel he would turn nasty if you were to finish the friendship?

Don’t be a dick. It isn’t necessary to throw an insult at someone just because they make a comment online.

I said weirdly written because it doesn’t follow the usual constructs that we would see when people form sentences. Almost like AI wrote it.

Moonlightexpress · 19/05/2025 11:50

SueblueNZ · 19/05/2025 04:32

@Boreded The OP has written very eloquently. Maybe you are not used to eloquence.
To your question, OP. I would edge myself out of the friendship by putting gradually more space between your meet-ups. I think he has proven who he is. Of course he would never admit to breaking your treasure, even if you raised it with him. But you know (and I know) that he vandalised that item; why else would he want to put it into your bag rather than into your hand.
I think he is playing you. Do you feel he would turn nasty if you were to finish the friendship?

No the op hasn't written 'eloquently' actually. The account contradicts itself.
First op says they have common interests and you get the impression they enjoy the same things then she goes on to say they enjoy doing different things but she feels he mirrors what she says... that can't be the case if she knows he likes to other stuff that she doesn't enjoy as much. And this random item that keeps getting borrowed and given back? Really? And my last issue. Op keeps reminding the 'friend' they are just friends, and he says he knows.. and even questions op as to why she keeps saying this... exactly why do you keep saying it.. the man has asked you so give the bloody reason then.

Littledidsheknow · 19/05/2025 11:45

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Edenmum2 · 19/05/2025 11:32

It was all just about passing as real until ‘and has been of such a sustained outstanding quality’

AI just never quite gets it right

Roxietrees · 19/05/2025 10:36

TallulahBetty · 19/05/2025 09:25

You definitely studied sculpture at St Martin's college.

You don’t want to sleep with common people though..

BernardButlersBra · 19/05/2025 10:19

TallulahBetty · 19/05/2025 09:25

You definitely studied sculpture at St Martin's college.

🤣🤣🤣

Roxietrees · 19/05/2025 10:14

SueblueNZ · 19/05/2025 04:32

@Boreded The OP has written very eloquently. Maybe you are not used to eloquence.
To your question, OP. I would edge myself out of the friendship by putting gradually more space between your meet-ups. I think he has proven who he is. Of course he would never admit to breaking your treasure, even if you raised it with him. But you know (and I know) that he vandalised that item; why else would he want to put it into your bag rather than into your hand.
I think he is playing you. Do you feel he would turn nasty if you were to finish the friendship?

It’s not eloquent. It reads like it’s been written either by AI or by an aristocratic lady in the 1800s. “a relationship of sustained, outstanding quality” who writes this on a casual chat forum?!

JHound · 19/05/2025 10:12

How did he break an item you gave him briefly while you were there?

Anyway you are overthinking this. His feelings are his own responsibility. You have told him you are just friends. So just enjoy the friendship and stop stressing over ulterior motives.

Gyozas · 19/05/2025 10:12

This friendship has been really important to me, and has been of such a sustained outstanding quality , that I would not take ending it lightly.

Run little robot, run. And maybe reassess your opinion of ‘sustained outstanding quality’, this person sounds like an oik.

ChickenEggChicken · 19/05/2025 10:11

pinkdelight · 19/05/2025 10:05

Ooh yes, handbags are a great visual metaphor for fannies so the delicate item is very likely some symbolic hymen. Perhaps a Faberge egg or pinned butterfly.

Thank you for validating and running with my batshit idea. Symbolic hymens galore. 😀

JHound · 19/05/2025 10:11

Boreded · 19/05/2025 03:56

What a weirdly written post.

Oh phew I thought it was just me!!

EmeraldShamrock000 · 19/05/2025 10:10

Step away from him, he wants more.than a friendship, you don't.

I don't know why you continue the friendship when he wants more, playing with fire.

Some men can't be friends with women without wanting more.

pinkdelight · 19/05/2025 10:05

ChickenEggChicken · 19/05/2025 09:38

I was wondering whether it was a slightly cack -handed metaphor for the OP’s virginity, or at least some kind of sexual thing. She took it to an event, lent it to a ‘very attractive gentleman’ who returned it in pristine condition, after which Jealous Friend asked for it and returned it broken, though the OP only realised..? Or else this ‘event’ was an episode of Antiques Roadshow, and the item was an ancestral vase or something…

Ooh yes, handbags are a great visual metaphor for fannies so the delicate item is very likely some symbolic hymen. Perhaps a Faberge egg or pinned butterfly.

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