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To be scared people aren't taking far-right extremists seriously?

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AnxiousApocalypse · 18/05/2025 20:43

There is so much anti-immigrant sentiment in the UK and the West in general. There are a lot of people that believe if you are a person of colour that has grown up in the UK but have immigrant parents, then you are not British enough- even if you have spent your whole life here and integrated into British society. On Wednesday, three far-right extremists were convicted in Sheffield Crown Court of planning a terrorist attack but there was hardly any coverage. At my workplace, people talk about immigrants coming over on scam care worker visas schemes, bringing their dependants and taking up resources such as school places and NHS appointments when those are already lacking for those born in Britain. I thought that scrapping overseas recruitment for care workers and heightening the qualifications threshold for skilled worker visas by the government was quite severe, but comments on the Daily Mail and Telegraph articles show that this isn't enough for most people. What about all the universities having to make cuts due to losing significant income from the new restrictions on international student visas? Will most people not be happy until the UK has no non-white people at all?

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JHound · 18/05/2025 21:24

I have gone to the acceptance stage. People don’t “take them seriously” because they agree with far right politics. And I cannot do anything about that so have chosen to accept what will be will be.

Will most people not be happy until the UK has no non-white people at all?

I am not sure “most” but definitely I believe this is how a significant portion think / feel. Especially given how so many seem to confuse non-white and immigrant and the sheer vitriol from so many at having to see non-white people…anywhere.

Ooral · 18/05/2025 21:23

JacquesHarlow · 18/05/2025 20:51

Ok this post @AnxiousApocalypse is packed with assumptions here and , as someone "of colour" (!) that is British born but who is concerned about rising immigration, let me try and help:

There is so much anti-immigrant sentiment in the UK and the West in general.

There has been a lot more migration from certain countries, many of them not necessarily officially in conflict or in war, but which seek the UK as an attractive destination due to language and existing family members.

So this has led to concerns.

There are a lot of people that believe if you are a person of colour that has grown up in the UK but have immigrant parents, then you are not British enough- even if you have spent your whole life here and integrated into British society.

Am in my 40s, female, grew up in the worse times than this, and I would challenge the "there are a lot of". I think there are a lot more outlets now such a social media that give coverage to these voices, but in my professional and personal life, no one is questioning me!

At my workplace, people talk about immigrants coming over on scam care worker visas schemes, bringing their dependants and taking up resources such as school places and NHS appointments when those are already lacking for those born in Britain.

But I don't think scam visas are ok?

Will most people not be happy until the UK has no non-white people at all?

This is seriously extreme, sorry OP, and deliberately provocative. NO, I don't think this is the case at all. You'll find "non white" people like me are also concerned about mass arrivals of young men, from particular communities and countries, time and time again arriving without families or any context, and slipping away into society without any identification, any screening, any support for integration. Where I live, this concerns people. Not their colour, but the culture issues.

Nailed it, the only thing I would add..... 99% of people that are worried about 'far right' have no idea what far right actually is.
Reform aren't even middle right. Ask your grandfathers.

myplace · 18/05/2025 21:21

Ignoring real issues, conflating them with being far right or racist, simply feeds the Far Right.

Address the actual issues without gasping about the wrongthink of the people raising them, and no one will be driven to the far right.

Ordinary people are not attracted to far right policies.
Ordinary people are attracted to the party that recognises their concerns and plans steps to redress problems.

We are desperately short of housing and medical services. Desperately short- life shortening.
People using study visas inappropriately, or bringing in extended family while not earning enough to support them- we cannot afford it at the moment. We can only welcome people who pay their way.

No where else welcomes immigrants who can’t pay their keep. Australia, New Zealand, USA- you can’t just rock up there. It’s ok to say people can’t just rock up here, too.

Most of us aren’t net contributors, tax wise. We can’t welcome more people who won’t be met contributors.

Lassango · 18/05/2025 21:19

Perhaps if the people running the country took action the protests would not be necessary. Just a thought.

MiloMinderbinder925 · 18/05/2025 21:13

It's been known for some time that far right extremism is growing. We had two anti immigrant protests this weekend, one in Bristol and one in Birmingham. Both cities are very racially diverse.

The protesters had remigration flags which is a far right term for deporting all people of colour.

Many European countries have a far right presence, and some have been voted into the European parliament. Some have asked for extensive remigration programmes.

There's a lot of talk on social media about a coming race war and people seem obsessed with 'immigrants'.

There's a lot of misinformation online fuelling division and hatred.

BatchCookBabe · 18/05/2025 20:53

What @JacquesHarlow said ^ And I particularly agree with the last paragraph.

Really OTT thread @AnxiousApocalypse YABVU.

JacquesHarlow · 18/05/2025 20:51

Ok this post @AnxiousApocalypse is packed with assumptions here and , as someone "of colour" (!) that is British born but who is concerned about rising immigration, let me try and help:

There is so much anti-immigrant sentiment in the UK and the West in general.

There has been a lot more migration from certain countries, many of them not necessarily officially in conflict or in war, but which seek the UK as an attractive destination due to language and existing family members.

So this has led to concerns.

There are a lot of people that believe if you are a person of colour that has grown up in the UK but have immigrant parents, then you are not British enough- even if you have spent your whole life here and integrated into British society.

Am in my 40s, female, grew up in the worse times than this, and I would challenge the "there are a lot of". I think there are a lot more outlets now such a social media that give coverage to these voices, but in my professional and personal life, no one is questioning me!

At my workplace, people talk about immigrants coming over on scam care worker visas schemes, bringing their dependants and taking up resources such as school places and NHS appointments when those are already lacking for those born in Britain.

But I don't think scam visas are ok?

Will most people not be happy until the UK has no non-white people at all?

This is seriously extreme, sorry OP, and deliberately provocative. NO, I don't think this is the case at all. You'll find "non white" people like me are also concerned about mass arrivals of young men, from particular communities and countries, time and time again arriving without families or any context, and slipping away into society without any identification, any screening, any support for integration. Where I live, this concerns people. Not their colour, but the culture issues.

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