To be scared people aren't taking far-right extremists seriously?

Tell that to those who constantly conflate the two.

Gosh, not even 30 posts in, and BREXIT is being brought up, when it's absolutely NOTHING to do with the thread subject. How predictable and tedious... 🙄

@Sabire9

It'll end with people being killed or brutalised

This is already happening. I've seen several reports of brown people being chased and beaten by gangs.

There's common rhetoric of asylum seekers being paedophiles. If they didn't have constant security, I don't know what would happen to them by vigilantes.

"If mainstream politicians had even acknowledged a fraction of the problems caused by the policy of unfettered mass immigration"

All countries trying to grow their economies while experiencing falling birth rates are reliant on immigration, and this will continue to be the case.

What we've had in the UK is problematic because it involves high levels of immigration alongside prolonged, eye watering austerity and BREXIT, which has damaged public services and sucked huge amounts of money out of local economies. And then we have a right wing press which has relentlessly blamed the resultant fall in living standards on immigration alone.

The dismissal by well off liberals of concerns about immigration as racist, and the labeling of particularly working class people as bigots, is %100 what has allowed more extreme right wing parties to grow.

So sure, some people certainly do not seem to be taking that threat seriously, the people who should be making good immigration policies.

And also 100% this! ^

100% this. ^ 👏

Asylum seekers made up 6% of the immigration total last year, and as primarily young people wanting to work, don't have to be seen as a massive problem, as long as they can be processed quickly and deported if their asylum claims fail.

You're not unreasonable OP.

Those of you who are framing this as 'it's just people upset about the government not dealing with pressure on our public services and finances caused by high levels of immigration' have obviously not noticed the constant and pervasive dehumanisation of migrants on social media, and the hatred, resentment and intense fear being generated towards asylum seekers and immigrants generally.

It'll end with people being killed or brutalised - when you have migrants being generalised as 'invaders' who are here to rape our children, destroy our culture, and ruin our cities.

If you can't see the racism and the danger in this sort of rhetoric, I don't think anyone here can persuade you to change your mind. You've also been radicalised. Or you've deliberately shut your eyes because it makes you uncomfortable.

If mainstream politicians had even acknowledged a fraction of the problems caused by the policy of unfettered mass immigration, not to mention the disquiet caused by boatloads of young men coming here illegally, people wouldn't feel so frustrated and angry.

Some of my associates are already talking about voting Reform and as much as I’ve talked about why it’s a terrible idea and pushed back against it, they are determined. I do think there is a right wing swing coming and I think it will be across Europe. God knows what it will look like, all I see is more war ahead.

As explained, the far right protestors this weekend. One faction was Britain First.

First image, a massive remigration flag with people shouting " get these scum off our streets".

Most people that are opposed to the current migration policy are not in the least concerned with the colour of the migrants skin, the vast majority of current migrants happen to be white. Please do not make this a ‘race’ issue.

Who is 'they'??
I have absolutely never heard anyone outside North Korea suggest this.

I would be very concerned as well given the rhetoric online. There's absolutely no balance at all, and there are a lot of lies being implicitly believed.

The Telegraph and Daily Mail seem determined to start more riots with constant misinformation.

The whole indigenous/First Nation stuff is just far right ideology seeping into the nation's consciousness.

The traditional working class? Like the Windrush generation? Or does traditional mean white?

Migrants would be the working class if allowed to earn their keep. They don't choose to be put up in state accommodation and prevented from working towards a life of their choosing.

Why wouldn't people prefer to emigrate to a country where they have family and speak the language?

Britain shouldn't have talked sh*t about being a mother country to a quarter of the world. Hearts and minds has longterm effects.

Now these islands are genuine points on people's networks. Why is it wrong if they come from a sense of affiliation.

And a lot of people seem to think colonialism and legal migration as one and the same. I has an dispute with a guy who insists on referring to white Britons as “First Brits / Indigenuous” when I asked why he said “that’s what they do in Canada and Australia”. I asked if genuinely believed somebody making an application to move to a country under the requisite visa was the same as European conquest and colonialism of the two nations he mentioned. He insisted it was.

I know a number of non-white people (specifically black) who are so worried by the rhetoric in Europe that they are investigating other countries to move their families to where they won’t be a racial minority.

“Will most people not be happy until the UK has no non-white people at all?”

Being concerned about immigration isn’t about not liking non white people. I live in a mainly South Asian area , people generally get on well. The biggest challenge we have is anti social behaviour from white east European economic immigrants.

It’s more complicated than you think! It’s not just white people who struggle with recent high immigration.

Agree with this. You can’t just keep on letting in more people & putting them up in hotels without people getting fed up. I think people who have come here legally are getting annoyed too as they had to pay lots for visas and NHS access & most are working. I don’t think anyone is representing the traditional working class politically. Years ago they would have managed to get a school place, GP appointment & a council house. Now they see people arriving & taking what they see as theirs. I’m not affected where I live & I work with lots of migrant children (who are lovely). But I can see why people in areas which have hotels full are getting pissed off. They feel like they aren’t being listened to. So they have resorted to protesting.

There's a lot of talk about being 'indigenous' or white. It's all far right ideology. The other day someone posted a far right meme about invasion and eugenics - on a parenting forum. That's how ubiquitous it's getting.

The amount of times I have either been involved in or witnessed a conversation with people on the topic of immigration and illegal immigration where it rapidly became apparent that in the minds of many immigrants and non-whites are synonyms.

Nobody “just rocks up here”.
Either they need required papers or they claim asylum.

Same with Australia and NZ. (And to be pedantic Oz does accept immigrants who cannot pay their way….the defacto partners of the main visa applicant.)

Yes, it's all people of colour. They want an ethnostate.

The “remigration” rhetoric is one I see everywhere and it is absolutely not restricted to illegal immigrants or even immigrants.