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To think that this rude comments/ remarks are very racist ?

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Olaolaolalola · 18/05/2025 14:32

DS is in year 7 and goes to an independent school. He is new to school and has made many good friends. So DS was invited for a birthday party and was 3 hours late as he had a fixture at school.

While he was going to the party DS was sent number of audio records by a boy who was also invited to the party and was already at birthday boy’s home. In that audio I can hear boys laughing and 2 boys especially mocking and making rude and offensive remarks to my son.

I will phrase it to give you a better understanding of it. (We are of Asian descent and DS was born and brought up in London) I can hear 2 boys saying - “don’t come to the party, play cricket and go home and eat curry”,
”go to your mother and sit with her”. These 2 boys made entire 5 minutes audio mimicking Indian accent, calling my son from his nickname and shaming him for being called that and asking him not to come to party repeatedly and making fun of his haircut. Please note, none of the comments was made by birthday boy so other classmates asking him not to come doesn’t bother DS.

He is very bothered by the comments made by 2 friends about his ethnicity and parents. DS is emotionally and psychologically down. I can see he is broken and this incident had torn him down. As a mother I am furious to see my child sad and what trauma it had caused him. He has never faced this kind of racism/ situation in his entire life.

One of the 2 boys realised his mistake and is really sorry. I am happy that he realised his mistake and promised to be a better friend in future. I appreciate that. However I want to take this matter forward to school and let them handle this situation.

I think that the entire situation was highly racist and needs to be handled properly. What you all think ?

thanks

OP posts:
Isobel201 · 18/05/2025 17:46

TakeMe2Insanity · 18/05/2025 14:59

This is racist. Do take it to the school.

3 hrs late for a birthday party is pretty ridiculous though.

I agree, whilst the racist comments were wrong, why turn up to a party three hours late? If he couldn't attend within a reasonable time, then he may as well have just said he couldn't make it.

TempestTost · 18/05/2025 17:24

I haven't read the FF, OP, only your posts.

I think if it were me in this case, I would probably leave it for now. But keep the video.

In general I have found with children in the teen years, there can be quite a lot of drama. My eldest two are girls, so far more interpersonal drama than you can possibly imagine. I think it's very limited what parents or schools can do to help with this, especially with girls who can be so sophisticated.

Boys are a little differernt, more crude in their stupid behaviour. But they will do it, and what you describe sounds very much like the kinds of stupid things boys seem to do.

I think the racism element is probably a red herring. I would guess it's a combination of these boys saying what they knew would push your sons buttons, and wanting to say the kinds of "bad" things they know not to say. Racist comments now are the thing all kids are told are most horrible, so just like in the old days when kids would say irreligious things on purpose, a lot of boys seem to default to racist comments. I don't think in a lot of these cases it actually has much if anything to do with their real views.

The one boy who apologised obviously knows it was wrong and feels badly. I think that's typical with boys of that age, they get caught up in being stupid in the moment and make bad decisions. I imagine the other boy also knows. Perhaps he doesn't care, or is too scared to apologise.

Would a lot be gained by going to the school rather than leaving it be? It's not clear to me that it would, and it would certainly put the boy who did apologise in a difficult spot. As long as it doesn't continue, I would leave it. If this other boy does continue then I would take action and bring the problem to the school, and just let them know your son worked things out on his own with the one boy who apologised after the fact. (Which is a really good thing btw, it's really the ideal outcome for kids making bad decisions that they manage the problem and move on.)

luckylavender · 18/05/2025 17:08

floppybit · 18/05/2025 14:36

You must send the recordings to the school so that they can make the parents of these boys aware of what has happened.

It didn't happen in school though. Teachers cannot police everything.

saraclara · 18/05/2025 17:06

I'm amazed that so many people think this is a police matter. It really isn't.

A lot of the time incidents outside school aren't something that parents should expect the school to address (I'm a teacher). But this one very much is. I do agree that the repentent friend shouldn't have to face the music all over again though. So I get why you might find it awkward, OP.

AmIthatSpringy · 18/05/2025 17:06

Olaolaolalola · 18/05/2025 16:45

So I got an apology from Parent feeling absolutely sorry about their son’s behaviour. They had a talk over and the kid is feeling apologetic for his actions.

BUT no apology from other child who was the biggest racist than the other one. Now I don’t want to drag this boy to school as he sincerely accepts his mistake and very sorry. The school might give him sanctions so want to end it here for this boy.

Now how should I approach the other boy. If I take the matter to school, both boys will be called out.

Why would the school give him sanctions?
i'd kick up merry hell if the school tried to sanction my child for something that didn't happen at school.

It's a racist incident so report it to the police

Caligirl80 · 18/05/2025 17:04

Olaolaolalola · 18/05/2025 16:45

So I got an apology from Parent feeling absolutely sorry about their son’s behaviour. They had a talk over and the kid is feeling apologetic for his actions.

BUT no apology from other child who was the biggest racist than the other one. Now I don’t want to drag this boy to school as he sincerely accepts his mistake and very sorry. The school might give him sanctions so want to end it here for this boy.

Now how should I approach the other boy. If I take the matter to school, both boys will be called out.

Well, you can still raise it with the school and mention that one of the boys who was involved has apologised - so the school will know that there has been some action taken, and what that action was. However it is important to note that the apology can from the other boy's parent - not from the child himself. We don't know enough about the child involved to know whether they will say one thing to get out of being in trouble at home, but behave a different way at school - my experience from teaching is that children can often have rather different ways of behaving when they are in different places, and some can be rather more easily peer pressured to say nasty things than others. The point is that the school needs to know for safeguarding reasons: if they don't know your child has been abused by racist kids then it's difficult for them to know they need to keep an eye to make sure he's okay/isn't being picked on by that group of kids.

TortolaParadise · 18/05/2025 16:55

As the incident did not happen at school OP perhaps this should this be a parent and police matter?

Caligirl80 · 18/05/2025 16:55

Olaolaolalola · 18/05/2025 14:32

DS is in year 7 and goes to an independent school. He is new to school and has made many good friends. So DS was invited for a birthday party and was 3 hours late as he had a fixture at school.

While he was going to the party DS was sent number of audio records by a boy who was also invited to the party and was already at birthday boy’s home. In that audio I can hear boys laughing and 2 boys especially mocking and making rude and offensive remarks to my son.

I will phrase it to give you a better understanding of it. (We are of Asian descent and DS was born and brought up in London) I can hear 2 boys saying - “don’t come to the party, play cricket and go home and eat curry”,
”go to your mother and sit with her”. These 2 boys made entire 5 minutes audio mimicking Indian accent, calling my son from his nickname and shaming him for being called that and asking him not to come to party repeatedly and making fun of his haircut. Please note, none of the comments was made by birthday boy so other classmates asking him not to come doesn’t bother DS.

He is very bothered by the comments made by 2 friends about his ethnicity and parents. DS is emotionally and psychologically down. I can see he is broken and this incident had torn him down. As a mother I am furious to see my child sad and what trauma it had caused him. He has never faced this kind of racism/ situation in his entire life.

One of the 2 boys realised his mistake and is really sorry. I am happy that he realised his mistake and promised to be a better friend in future. I appreciate that. However I want to take this matter forward to school and let them handle this situation.

I think that the entire situation was highly racist and needs to be handled properly. What you all think ?

thanks

It's absolutely racist and I am very sorry your little lad had to listen to that nonsense being said about him. Even though the incident did not happen at school, it's highly unlikely that kids who say racist crap outside of school don't also say it when they are at school. As such I would likely suggest making an urgent appointment with whoever the appropriate contact is at the school - the head of year?? - to tell them exactly what happened, say you have recordings that were given to you by someone else (take them along if necessary) and say that you are very concerned that your child - and others at the school - are being targeted by horrible racist abuse.

If I was a head of year/headteacher I would immediately make sure that all year groups have some extra teaching/instruction about harassment/discrimination and make sure the children - and parents/caregivers - understand that the school has a zero tolerance policy with respect to racism of any kind. The jey here is that the school should also be making sure that the parents of all the children at the school are made aware that racist language is never acceptable - ever.

It may be the case that your son might benefit from having a therapist or some third party to talk to about this - because alas this won't be the first time he has to endure this kind of crud. And if he's given some coping mechanisms/ways to deal with that kind of nonsense from people who are trained to counsel youngsters about that sort of thing he may feel not only that his worries are being taken seriously, but also that he is more empowered in future. You may want to wait a bit though before doing that (or not call the person a "therapist" - perhaps a tutor or someesuch - because kids can also be unpleasant to children who go to therapists - and he might think he's done something wrong - which of course he has not.

Sending him lots of kind thoughts - what happened to him is cruddy and you are absolutely right to be very angry and upset.

WorkCleanRepeat · 18/05/2025 16:46

Our school would tell you to go to the police with it if it happened out of hours on personal devices. It's definitely worth making them aware of the situation though.

Olaolaolalola · 18/05/2025 16:45

So I got an apology from Parent feeling absolutely sorry about their son’s behaviour. They had a talk over and the kid is feeling apologetic for his actions.

BUT no apology from other child who was the biggest racist than the other one. Now I don’t want to drag this boy to school as he sincerely accepts his mistake and very sorry. The school might give him sanctions so want to end it here for this boy.

Now how should I approach the other boy. If I take the matter to school, both boys will be called out.

OP posts:
FreezeDriedStrawberries · 18/05/2025 16:41

Koalafan · 18/05/2025 15:38

It didn't happen at school, it will be very hard for them to do anything.

Surely by making the school aware they know that your child has been bullied, so know the situation and can keep an eye out, and maybe an assembly and learning about racism would be a good idea like a pp said.
They'd absolutely want to know.

Koalafan · 18/05/2025 16:40

AmIthatSpringy · 18/05/2025 16:33

You know perfectly well that this poster was speaking about your post, not the incident.

Thanks, you're correct.

Koalafan · 18/05/2025 16:39

blubbyblub · 18/05/2025 16:01

What part of go home eat curry and mimicking the Indian accent for the duration of the recording is not racist to you.

pretty sure even a neo nazi would acknowledge this is racist.

I wasn't saying the content wasn't racist, because it was, it was more the implications in the questions directed at me on a previous comment (basically suggesting that I'd report other crime to the school but not this).

Hadmysay · 18/05/2025 16:36

Tell the school op.

SpunkySquid · 18/05/2025 16:36

I’m amazed how many commenters have schools that would care about something that’s happened elsewhere. I know ours wouldn’t.

AmIthatSpringy · 18/05/2025 16:33

blubbyblub · 18/05/2025 16:01

What part of go home eat curry and mimicking the Indian accent for the duration of the recording is not racist to you.

pretty sure even a neo nazi would acknowledge this is racist.

You know perfectly well that this poster was speaking about your post, not the incident.

FreezeDriedStrawberries · 18/05/2025 16:32

floppybit · 18/05/2025 14:36

You must send the recordings to the school so that they can make the parents of these boys aware of what has happened.

This
I disagree it has "nothing to do with school" like pp said, as it's racist bullying and I'd be absolutely mortified if mine had done that to another child, I'd want to know about it to deal with it!
What they said was disgusting and need to be pulled up on it.

AmIthatSpringy · 18/05/2025 16:30

MyDeftDuck · 18/05/2025 16:09

Completely agree OP. Report to the school and don’t let them fob you off with meaningless, pathetic apologies and excuses.

Why would the school apologise?

Enthusiasticcarrotgrower · 18/05/2025 16:30

Definitely report to the school. Did you keep the clips as evidence?

AmIthatSpringy · 18/05/2025 16:29

blubbyblub · 18/05/2025 15:18

If a pupil sexually assaulted someone at a party would you tell the school?
If a pupil vandalised all the cars along your street would you notify the school?
If a pupil was involved in an online bullying campaign would you tell the school?

if yes to any of these then what is it about racist bullying that is not something you would notify the school about?

Edited

For everything you mentioned, I'd go to the police.

Mum2jenny · 18/05/2025 16:27

Then it’s up to the school to deal with any such incidents that happen in school

Nanny0gg · 18/05/2025 16:25

FuzzyPuffling · 18/05/2025 14:35

Nasty, but nothing to do with school as it didn't happen there. I'm afraid it's yours to deal with.
And keep a close eye out for any repeat behaviours.

Edited

~What makes you think they won't carry on at school?

I'll bet anything they do

AmIthatSpringy · 18/05/2025 16:24

StRochSixEight · 18/05/2025 14:34

Definitely send it to the school; this is racist bullying and needs to be dealt with.

Why? It's nothing to do with the school

user2848502016 · 18/05/2025 16:23

That’s disgraceful behaviour, your poor son! I think I would involve the school because although the incident didn’t happen at school your son is going to have to see these boys there all week and school should be aware that there’s been a racist bullying incident so they can make sure your son is ok

Voerendaal · 18/05/2025 16:19

sesquipedalian · 18/05/2025 14:57

“One of the 2 boys realised his mistake and is really sorry. I am happy that he realised his mistake and promised to be a better friend in future. I appreciate that. However I want to take this matter forward to school and let them handle this situation.”

OP, what do you hope to gain by taking it forward to the school? Doubtless the two boys will be in trouble - which is a bit hard on the boy who has faced up to his wrongdoing and apologised. If you take it to school and they are spoken to/punished, how do you think they will then regard your son? I can’t see it making the situation better, and it is possible that it will also lead to others being less than friendly towards your son. I’d tell your son to avoid the boy who wasn’t sorry, and move on. I certainly don’t think racism is in any way acceptable, but I just wonder whether you might be in danger of making things worse.

No you have to take it to school- it is really important that they know about it and can address racism there. Just because it did not happen at school does not mean OP has to deal with it herself. She is better not dealing with it - in my experience racist kids have rascist parents - let the school deal with it

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