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Parents hate the Childfree

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Youstolemygoddamnhouse · 18/05/2025 08:18

Over the past few days there have been several post regarding children for example Our new Neighbours and my loud children and To think it's unacceptable to say you don't like children. in both posts there are hateful comments about Childfree people. The second post in particular never mentioned anything about childfree people but then people started making comments about them. Plenty of parents hate other children despite having them. Why do parents care so much about Childfree people and their choices? Are you jealous? Need validation? Why all the hate? Most importantly will you own up to it?

YABU - I don’t hate the childfree
YANBU - yes I hate the childfree

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Livpool · 18/05/2025 11:04

Youstolemygoddamnhouse · 18/05/2025 08:48

I mean it has other topics other than parenting, kind of proved my point.

Sorry OP but I agree with this poster - and I don’t mean people who are childfree and using this site - how would I know anyway! But there are some poster who go out of their way to say how much they hate children. Which is weird - people wouldn’t say they despise elderly people etc. so why is it SOME people say they hate kids?! Just odd.

But then I wouldn’t draw an unnatural conclusion that ALL childfree people hate children. Some people - in all groups - are just weird.

Heatherjayne1972 · 18/05/2025 11:03

Hate is a strong word

however we are all guilty ( probably) of looking at someone else’s life and seeing only the good bits or only the bad bits and wanting or not wanting that

the grass isn’t always greener on the the other side

Tupelobound · 18/05/2025 10:59

Sometimeswinning · 18/05/2025 10:24

Which places are these? The childfree on mumsnet seem far too obsessed with not having children around compared to normal childfree people I know in real life.

I agree. I couldn't care less if people don't have children but why would I have empathy for a child free person not wanting children in certain places.

We live in society where people are free to come and go as they please. Children have every right to be in places they are allowed to be in whether people want them there or not and I'm certainly not going to avoid taking children places in fear of upsetting someone who may not want them there. If childfree don't want to be around children either stay at home or go to the pub after 8pm when kids aren't allowed in.

Pricelessadvice · 18/05/2025 10:55

Arina22 · 18/05/2025 10:48

I have met childfree people that do this. They go on and on about how great their lives are without kids

They obviously don’t have horses then 😂

80smonster · 18/05/2025 10:53

I don’t hate the childfree, better to be childfree than a shitty parent (there are so many of those it’s untrue). Equally, I don’t think having children makes you particularly altruistic, it’s just a choice. Not a very interesting one either.

BernardButlersBra · 18/05/2025 10:52

Arina22 · 18/05/2025 10:48

I have met childfree people that do this. They go on and on about how great their lives are without kids

I’m always sceptical about people who go on and on about stuff -whether it’s not liking it or liking it. Why give it so much head space?!

Fifthtimelucky · 18/05/2025 10:51

My childfree family and friends include:

a married couple in their 60s who have been unable to have children despite several attempts at IVF

a married woman who told me over 40 years when we were in our early 20s that she never wanted children

single men and women aged 50+ who would have liked to have children but never found the right person to have them with

single men and women in their 20s-40s who hope to have children once they have found the right person, but in the case of the older ones are starting to think it probably won’t happen

various single and married people who I don’t know well enough to know whether or not they would like to have/to have had children

couples in their 20s-30s who plan to have children together once the time is right

two young women (20s) who say they never want children.

Why would I hate any of them? The ones who don’t have children by choice are being very sensible. Why bring unwanted children into this world?

Livpool · 18/05/2025 10:49

I couldn’t care less whether someone has children or not. It has nothing to do with me. I have a child and friends with loads of childfree friends

stclementine · 18/05/2025 10:49

Jollyjoy · 18/05/2025 08:35

To be very frank, before I had children I thought that people who didn’t want them, it had to be some kind of trauma base to it, like it was unhealthy. Now I’ve had them, I think those people understood things dispassionately that I did not. I don’t regret having kids at all, but it was not what I expected and I feel the childfree people I knew could see what I couldn’t because I was so attached to my wish to have them, and I think it’s a perfectly valid, if not very impressive, life choice.

I do wonder if people who do judge people for being childfree, could be those who expected it to be awful and found it much better, and maybe they think that childfree people would be the same if they just did it?

I think it’s true that we childfree people have spent a lot more time and effort thinking about the impact of children on our lives and do we really not want them, than people who had them because of biological urge.

Arina22 · 18/05/2025 10:48

Pricelessadvice · 18/05/2025 10:43

I’m childfree and have never done this.

Then again, I have a yard of horses to see to twice a day, so I just have a different kind of children that still require 5am alarms and late nights and no freedom to go away or have a day out without trying to find cover for the yard.

I have met childfree people that do this. They go on and on about how great their lives are without kids

mumofoneAlonebutokay · 18/05/2025 10:47

Pricelessadvice · 18/05/2025 10:43

I’m childfree and have never done this.

Then again, I have a yard of horses to see to twice a day, so I just have a different kind of children that still require 5am alarms and late nights and no freedom to go away or have a day out without trying to find cover for the yard.

I wouldnt mind having you over for dinner then 😄

RamblingEclectic · 18/05/2025 10:46

Some parents do, most parents don't - just like some people who choose to be childfree despise parents and most don't. The hate tends to be worse in echo chambers where people feed off of and spiral into more violent and dehumanizing rhetoric.

I don't think remarks about jealousy or even bitterness equate to hate. Ill-informed snap judgements, most likely, but it isn't hate, anymore than the parents I know who tell people who are considering kids to 'enjoy your money being yours/the holidays you want while you can' isn't hate against kids, even when I disagree with how they're painting parenthood.

Do you have empathy for the Childfree, that they might not want them in certain places.

I have empathy, though that's not a childfree-only desire.

Pricelessadvice · 18/05/2025 10:43

mumofoneAlonebutokay · 18/05/2025 10:25

I truly support a woman's choice to live how she wants

But childfree people don't half bang on about being child free 🙄

They're worse than vegans, just inserting it into random conversations, telling everyone how much sleep they get, unprovoked 🙄🙄

I’m childfree and have never done this.

Then again, I have a yard of horses to see to twice a day, so I just have a different kind of children that still require 5am alarms and late nights and no freedom to go away or have a day out without trying to find cover for the yard.

feelingbleh · 18/05/2025 10:42

I don't think anyone cares what others do in real life aslong as it doesn't impact them

Blondiebeachbabe · 18/05/2025 10:42

I had my kids quite young, so I was only 45/46 when they left home, and DH was 42/43. We are now in our 50's and have a very nice lifestyle, with Adult only type holidays etc, and I've noticed that some of our friends with small kids are a bit jealous. Nothing is ever directly said, but it's obvious. I feel like reminding them that when we were in the thick of parenting young children, they were jet setting, and night clubbing till 4am!!

SpidersAreShitheads · 18/05/2025 10:41

Youstolemygoddamnhouse · 18/05/2025 09:28

But why do you care if they think or say that? I mean it’s not going to impact your life one bit what a stranger on the internet says?

Oh the irony!

So, just to be clear….

If parents say anything about childfree people, they’re haters and it warrants a post to discuss how terrible parents en masse are (even though most of us give no shits whether people choose to have kids or not).

If childfree people say nasty things about children, it’s perfectly fine because other people saying things on the internet doesn’t matter.

Alright then 😂😂😂😂

Barnbrack · 18/05/2025 10:41

whippy1981 · 18/05/2025 10:09

Some have more knowledge than parents in certain areas. I have potty trained thousands of children more than any of my parent friends have. I can therefore easily advise parents on how to potty train their children, problems they may face, helpful tips etc. So a parent with a potty training problem not asking advice from someone who has more knowledge than them because they are childfree is somewhat short-sighted.

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If you were my friend I'd be asking advice! I have 2 friends who are respectively a teacher and child psychologist. They'd probably say I ask too much advice. Same as I annoy my pal who is a podiatrist about my feet and dental friends about my teeth. Expert advice from someone you know well is gold dust

phoenixrosehere · 18/05/2025 10:41

helpmeCalifornia · 18/05/2025 10:03

Agree with this.

Excluding children from public spaces or making them unwelcome is disproportionately going to affect women, because that’s who still does the majority of the childcare. So by default you’re excluding women too.

Children are one of, if not THE most vulnerable group in society. They’re human and they deserve respect. It’s not ok to post that you hate old people, disabled people or black people - it shouldn’t be ok to post that you hate very young people either - and I do see it quite a bit online.

No issue with childfree or childless people whatsoever- I was until 40 and my best friend is happily childfree - her life looks lovely and I’m envious of some parts of it whilst I still wouldn’t swap. I’ll be honest she’s stayed a closer and better friend to me as I’ve navigated parenthood than other friends who are parents.

Exactly.

It’s the lumping all in one group which those who choose to do that wouldn’t like the same thing done to them.

My well-behaved children shouldn’t be penalised due to other people’s parenting. Plus, how are they supposed to learn how to behave in public places if they’re excluded from them. No one would think someone learning to drive should only learn by simulation and practicing only in their home and then be sent out on the road.

Arina22 · 18/05/2025 10:41

Im childfree and ive never gotten hate.

Ive gotten hate for writing gotten on here though

MyUmberSeal · 18/05/2025 10:40

CraneBeak · 18/05/2025 10:36

Why would I hate someone for not having children? How would I even know if they have children or not? Or do you think that I go around withholding my opinion on someone until I find out what their reproductive choices were? Where does it stop - do I just mildly dislike the people who couldn't have children but really really despise the people who actively chose not to have them?

This made me laugh 🤣… but for all the right reasons. It sums up the absurdity of this thread.

Bigearringsbigsmile · 18/05/2025 10:37

Unpaidviewer · 18/05/2025 10:34

No hate but I am often bemused by those childfree posters who have these lives we should be jealous of, who spend a large amount of their time posting on "mumsnet, the UK's most popular website for parents."

This!!!! Go snd enjoy your lovely life!

CraneBeak · 18/05/2025 10:36

Why would I hate someone for not having children? How would I even know if they have children or not? Or do you think that I go around withholding my opinion on someone until I find out what their reproductive choices were? Where does it stop - do I just mildly dislike the people who couldn't have children but really really despise the people who actively chose not to have them?

Nanny0gg · 18/05/2025 10:36

Youstolemygoddamnhouse · 18/05/2025 08:57

Suggest you look at the comments from the posts I signposted

All 2 of them?

Unpaidviewer · 18/05/2025 10:34

No hate but I am often bemused by those childfree posters who have these lives we should be jealous of, who spend a large amount of their time posting on "mumsnet, the UK's most popular website for parents."

Overthebow · 18/05/2025 10:33

Youstolemygoddamnhouse · 18/05/2025 09:35

works both ways. Do you have empathy for the Childfree, that they might not want them in certain places.

What places? Children are humans too, unless it’s something not appropriate for children like a bar in the evening then why shouldn’t children be there?

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