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To lock my bathroom during renovations in the flat

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Hocuspoc · 18/05/2025 01:58

The flat has just one bathroom/toilet which has just been refurbished. Considering this is in London, the price of the renovation was extortionate.

Now we have painters and decorators coming in to paint the walls, skirting boards etc.
I really don't want them to use the bath or sink for keeping the tools and washing up.
It still bothers me how much the bathroom renovation has set us back and if someone was now to scratch the bathtub or break a tile I think I'd have a mental breakdown.
I want them to use the kitchen sink instead, or to set up some buckets on the kitchen floor - whatever they can come up with - just to stay away from the bloody bathroom.
I am tempted to lock the bathroom to prevent any damage or soiling.

And I feel this is horrible - it is as if I don't want them to use the loo or something (and it is not about that at all).
But then, the guys who did the bathroom had nowhere to go for 10 days while renovating it - so this is not an impossible set up.

I feel I am being unreasonable but honestly with the prices the contractors are charging at the moment I could not care less - they can certainly afford a quick coffee in a nearby cafe and use the loo there.
Thoughts.

OP posts:
PuggyPuggyPuggy · 18/05/2025 09:05

Hocuspoc · 18/05/2025 02:34

I once had contractors fitting a window and they were explicitly told not to step on decorative beams on the wall - I caught them standing on these 3 times and the next day the beams came crashing down. Luckily noone got hurt.
But in my experience people don't respect what you ask them to do or not to do.
Sadly you need to physically prevent access - hence this awkward thread.

I'm team "Just tell them what they can't do" but I get why you find it hard to trust them on that.

Can you fill the bath with something that would be inconvenient for them to move? In the name of creating space for them to be able to move around. I guess it depends on the extent to which you also need to be able to live in the flat while the work is being done but it sounds like you don't expect to be there (otherwise you could keep an eye on them, right?)
Maybe a combination of
-Telling them very clearly what you expect "We've just had the bathroom done and it cost an arm and a leg, can I ask that you treat it as an absolute no-go zone for tools and equipment. Please make sure everyone knows that. Do what you like with the sink in the kitchen, I don't care if you use that to mix paint in, haha!"

  • Put your own protection in place for floors, maybe some cheap mats or something "Don't worry about these, they are literally just there to protect the floor during the renovations"
  • Blocking access to the bath ( "I've put the coffee table and xyz in the bath so at least some things are completely out of your way and you don't have to keep shimmying the curniture around, hope that helps!"

-And finally after they have given you they "christ, you're obsessed about this bathroom" look, drop in casually that you or your partner are likely to drop in for some reason or other during the day. Working a half day, whatever, just so they know that someone will see if they are not respecting your property.

Bluebellwood129 · 18/05/2025 09:05

Badbadbunny · 18/05/2025 04:36

Sadly there are a lot of Neanderthal knuckle dragging tradesmen who will deliberately take the piss when a woman tells them to do or not do something - they take it as an insult coming from a mere woman as it offends their “big man” attitude.

They like the tea and biscuits because that suits their narrative of woman’s work, ie a woman pandering to the men.

Edited

And equally, there are a lot of fabulous tradespeople who work very carefully in people's homes and are very respectful of women.

SwingTheMonkey · 18/05/2025 09:03

Moonnstars · 18/05/2025 08:59

Following to find out where @Hocuspoc went to the toilet for the 10 days when the bathroom was being replaced!

Please, just give her time to come up with a plausible story. Don’t rush her…

Moonnstars · 18/05/2025 08:59

Following to find out where @Hocuspoc went to the toilet for the 10 days when the bathroom was being replaced!

SoInLuv · 18/05/2025 08:55

Ankther · 18/05/2025 02:20

Absolutely not. They have to have access to a toilet. If you want to hire people to do work for you rather than doing it yourself, you have to meet their basic needs and treat them like your fellow humans who are worthy of respect.

You can of course be clear that the bathroom is to be used for toileting only and not washing paintbrushes, but you cannot bar them from using the only toilet in the property.

Absolutely 💯

MrsEverest · 18/05/2025 08:54

When we’ve had work done we’ve had a portaloo out the front.

BTW many community health care workers have no access to a bathroom as they go about their work. The ones I know use have a map of public toilets and also use facilites in cafes when they grab a coffee etc. it has really interested me to see how many people find this unacceptable for a largely male workforce when it’s absolutely the norm for a largely female one….:

Not to mention the people who think that if these men are not provided with a toilet they will ‘shit in the kitchen sink’ really?

Floranan · 18/05/2025 08:53

I’ve never experienced anything like this, I’m having some plastering and painting done at the moment and they use buckets out on the patio to wash their brushes etc. could you not just explain that you’ve been badly treated before and would appreciate it if they used buckets for cleaning tools and the bathroom is purely for it’s intended use.

in my experience if you treat workers well and respect that they have a job todo, then they respect you and your property much more.

Tbrh · 18/05/2025 08:53

Fenchapel · 18/05/2025 08:43

I’d rather they piss in the kitchen sink tbh

Then I think that's perfectly fine and your choice. What about shit?

Jk987 · 18/05/2025 08:52

Where do they go to the toilet then?

XxSideshowAuntSallyx · 18/05/2025 08:51

I had workmen in recently, they didnt wash anything in the bathroom sink other than their hands. No tools were stored in the bath or sink. Everything was covered.

Alhough I did feel kind of awkward having to ask the hot young workman if I could use the toilet, he dutifully moved all their stuff, uncovered it, closed the window, made sure I didn't pee surrounded by dust 😂. Every day it was always him in there when I needed a bloody pee!🤦‍♀️

springintoaction321 · 18/05/2025 08:50

FFS - why would a professional decorator wash their brushes in your bath/bathroom sink???

Is it just me or does that sound totally bonkers?

We had someone in to paper and paint hallway with high ceiling/walls etc and son's bedroom. He left no mess whatsoever, and certainly didn't even clean brushes/rollers in our house.

We did let him use the bathroom to use the toilet, as he was working a solid 8 to 9 hours each day.

abracadabra1980 · 18/05/2025 08:49

FifiFiadh · 18/05/2025 02:03

They will piss in your kitchen sink.

🤣

Fenchapel · 18/05/2025 08:44

Omg this thread has triggered every work and renovation man related bathroom memory 😭

Fenchapel · 18/05/2025 08:43

Tbrh · 18/05/2025 08:40

You want people to piss or shit in your kitchen sink?! I guess if you don't mind that, then go ahead and lock it

I’d rather they piss in the kitchen sink tbh

Fenchapel · 18/05/2025 08:42

LittleWeasel · 18/05/2025 08:41

Client is one of the parties giving consideration to H&S issues

Client has considered and has decided to keep a dangerous animal in bathroom thus…

Fenchapel · 18/05/2025 08:41

faerietales · 18/05/2025 08:38

As someone who goes in and out of other people's homes for a living, bathroom access is a non-negotiable for me and if I was expected to work in someone's home all day without access to basic toilet facilities, I would leave and not come back.

Thankfully it's not something I've ever experienced IRL, but MN seems to think it's okay to treat tradesmen etc. like second class citizens for some reason, then they complain when the work takes ages or they're over-charged.

Don't be a dick, OP.

Men are dicks though. I work in manufacturing and am so done with shitty ladies loos used by carriers to do their morning crap and them telling me I’m ‘too sensitive’. Bleugh.

LittleWeasel · 18/05/2025 08:41

Client is one of the parties giving consideration to H&S issues

Noisafullsentance · 18/05/2025 08:40

Cover your bath and sink, with a plastic protector so they can't be used. Problem solved

Tbrh · 18/05/2025 08:40

You want people to piss or shit in your kitchen sink?! I guess if you don't mind that, then go ahead and lock it

Fenchapel · 18/05/2025 08:40

LittleWeasel · 18/05/2025 08:38

There is a statutory requirement under the Construction (Design Management) Regulations 2015 to provide welfare facilities and in a domestic setting that means you need to provide a WC and means to wash hands.

Then the onus is on the builder. This isn’t their first rodeo.

Fenchapel · 18/05/2025 08:38

Lol at all the optimism here. Recently had my bathroom redone because of massive flood (insurance claim), moved out while they did the works and came home one day unannounced to have a hammer whistle past my head. They were throwing tools down the stairs.

They drilled all the way through a stud wall so the plaster fell off the other side.

They kicked in one of the treads on the stairs.

I actually had to make an insurance claim against my insurance company.

100% sod their feelings. Ask them what their arrangements are for toileting. If they say your flat let them know they need a second option.

LittleWeasel · 18/05/2025 08:38

There is a statutory requirement under the Construction (Design Management) Regulations 2015 to provide welfare facilities and in a domestic setting that means you need to provide a WC and means to wash hands.

faerietales · 18/05/2025 08:38

As someone who goes in and out of other people's homes for a living, bathroom access is a non-negotiable for me and if I was expected to work in someone's home all day without access to basic toilet facilities, I would leave and not come back.

Thankfully it's not something I've ever experienced IRL, but MN seems to think it's okay to treat tradesmen etc. like second class citizens for some reason, then they complain when the work takes ages or they're over-charged.

Don't be a dick, OP.

MouseMama · 18/05/2025 08:37

It’s not unreasonable to say don’t use the bathroom for washing tools. I had a stone basin fitted and the painter used it to wash the paint brushes but didn’t clean it afterwards and left paint residue on the basin. It could be cleaned off with a bit of scrubbing but I don’t see why I should have to tidy up after paid professionals - particularly when I have three young children and a husband I pick up after! They are good decorators so I had them back to do more work but this time said you must use the kitchen sink not the bathrooms for washing your brushes, they all agreed and I could tell the senior guy was pretty cross when I pointed out that my bathroom had been used again and there was more paint residue left on the stone basin. Needless to say it was properly cleaned by them by the end of the day. I’ve also caught workmen tipping dirty water with building residue/sand into a brand new Thomas Crapper toilet that’s just been fitted into a beautiful bathroom at great expense. Sigh. I cleaned that all up obviously it wouldn’t have flushed away and if it had it would have clogged our external drains/pipes. But you’ll look unreasonable if they have nowhere to pee so I think you need to have a frank conversation. The cost of a portaloo is probably minor if you’ve got somewhere to put it.

Viviennemary · 18/05/2025 08:35

Just tell them not to use the bathroom for their tools. Don't lock it.