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Secondchoice2 · 17/05/2025 19:33

My son has ASD and struggles to make friends. He is a cheerful 10 year old and is nice to everyone but rarely clicks with people. He has two good friends and I am grateful for that. I have been planning a small birthday party for him for months. He needed 8 guests to run the activity.

I planned it with the mum of one of his two good friends. Let’s call her Cowbag. She has helped me plan, understands the difficulty I have in getting people to attend and I even changed the activity to something her daughter would like. One week to go before the party and she has now withdrawn her acceptance of the invite saying that she accidentally double booked. she sent this by text. My son is devastated.

However, I have now found out that Cowbag’s daughter is now going to the party of another girl on the same day. This girl only gave out invites two days ago.

I spend a lot of time with this woman and I do not know how to respond. I am so upset.

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BigHeadBertha · 18/05/2025 03:20

Tbrh · 18/05/2025 03:19

You're choosing to only take bits of the OP that suit you. Did you read the first post? The other mother might just be a bitch and used to doing what she wants so she might just assume OP will be fine with it? If we're going to add extra assumptions that would be mine. In fact she's probably the sort of person who will then make OP is the unreasonable one, and have sudden amnesia about all of the other details.

No, you actually have an angry, argumentative tone rather than a thoughtful one that's suitable for discussion. I see you want to be right, so you just go on and do that.

BigHeadBertha · 18/05/2025 03:19

Or the other mother decided the OP brings way too much drama and just wanted to back off from her?

Tbrh · 18/05/2025 03:19

BigHeadBertha · 18/05/2025 03:08

You don't know my position because you're arguing with me without reading it first.

As I said, yes, I do think that in general, a child should have to stick with the invitation they already accepted. I'm surprised at the number of people who don't agree with that, in fact.

However, no, we don't know that the other mother "tried to change the activity to suit her daughter."

We don't know why the other mother decided to back off from the OP and her son's party in favor of the other invitation.

But, as you say, yes, the other mother did know the whole deal. Therefore, she must know this is gonna be a giant issue with the OP.

Therefore, rather than it just being sloppy manners about accepting invitations, I'd wager the other mother means to cut ties with the OP. I mean, all things considered, isn't this pretty much like a slap in the face?

However, we can't know for sure what's going on at the other mother's house so there are a lot of gaps here.

Edited

You're choosing to only take bits of the OP that suit you. Did you read the first post? The other mother might just be a bitch and used to doing what she wants so she might just assume OP will be fine with it? If we're going to add extra assumptions that would be mine. In fact she's probably the sort of person who will then make OP is the unreasonable one, and have sudden amnesia about all of the other details.

LAMPS1 · 18/05/2025 03:16

Cowbags daughter has told my son that she would prefer to go to his party but her mum wants her to have more female friends. The daughter is really sweet and shy.

In thinking how to react, I’d bear in mind that the objective has to be not to do anything which will jeopardise or damage this natural friendship for your son.
Not only does your son value the friendship but it seems the little girl does too and it seems clear that the awful decision was made by the mum not by the child.

Let your son know that he can still invite his friend over after school and at the weekends/holidays as usual but that if her mum is trying to encourage more girly friendships then she may not always be allowed to accept.
I’m sure you are trying not to let him see how upset you are.

As for when you next meet Cowbag in person, I would be polite and try not to make it awkward but I’d definitely not be relying on her friendship anymore as she isn’t to be trusted.
If she asks about your son or his party, I would feel free to say how glad you are that they talked it out between themselves in a really mature way, - but otherwise, be deliberately vague eg ‘yes I hope the weather lasts’ or ‘we are all looking forward to it’ and then change the subject or move away to talk to somebody else. The party is no longer her business and will be successful in spite of her ill-mannered decision so there’s really nothing else to be said on the subject so it needn’t be a topic of conversation with her any more at all.

It’s so difficult not to dwell on the hurt on behalf of your son, but put it down to an important life lesson for him and know that he will get over it quickly and begin to find his own way with friendships in time anyway.

I like the idea previously mentioned, of saving a party bag or some kind of momento from the party for him to give to her so that she knows there are no hard feelings.

BigHeadBertha · 18/05/2025 03:08

Tbrh · 18/05/2025 02:45

OPs friend knew the situation and actively planned this party with the OP, and went so far to change the activity to suit her daughter. That's poor form. I don't see any way you can try and justify that

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You don't know my position because you're arguing with me without reading it first.

As I said, yes, I do think that in general, a child should have to stick with the invitation they already accepted. I'm surprised at the number of people who don't agree with that, in fact.

However, no, we don't know that the other mother "tried to change the activity to suit her daughter."

We don't know why the other mother decided to back off from the OP and her son's party in favor of the other invitation.

But, as you say, yes, the other mother did know the whole deal. Therefore, she must know this is gonna be a giant issue with the OP.

Therefore, rather than it just being sloppy manners about accepting invitations, I'd wager the other mother means to cut ties with the OP. I mean, all things considered, isn't this pretty much like a slap in the face?

However, we can't know for sure what's going on at the other mother's house so there are a lot of gaps here.

Tbrh · 18/05/2025 02:45

BigHeadBertha · 18/05/2025 02:15

I am blessed with a grown son who is on the autism spectrum, thanks.

And if you are going to ask people to take their time to help you with your issue, etiquette requires considering them rather than lashing out when not told what you want to hear.

As I said, I think the other mother likely backed off because you're too much work, not just because her daughter got another invitation.

Setting up a party that requires eight kids minimum when you have a hard time filling those spaces, then putting the whole weight of the party happening on a friend's shoulders is a good way to lose a friend. That is not good etiquette.

As I said, I had enough to do to handle my own kid's parties. I would not want that much responsibility for someone else's too. You should expect some cancellations. Period.

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OPs friend knew the situation and actively planned this party with the OP, and went so far to change the activity to suit her daughter. That's poor form. I don't see any way you can try and justify that

Willyoujustbequiet · 18/05/2025 02:30

TatteredAndTorn · 18/05/2025 01:31

Tough shit. She’d already committed to someone else. You just don’t do that. What a terrible example to set her daughter.

And of course it’s personal. If my friend cancelled on me because they had a better offer, I’d take that fucking personally. It’s incredibly rude and bad mannered and definitely personal!

This

I'd go nuclear OP. Shitty behaviour absolutely must be called out.

BigHeadBertha · 18/05/2025 02:15

Secondchoice2 · 18/05/2025 01:10

You are obviously blessed. My child has a good relationship with Cowbag’s daughter. This was a terrible breach of etiquette. And very hurtful.

I am blessed with a grown son who is on the autism spectrum, thanks.

And if you are going to ask people to take their time to help you with your issue, etiquette requires considering them rather than lashing out when not told what you want to hear.

As I said, I think the other mother likely backed off because you're too much work, not just because her daughter got another invitation.

Setting up a party that requires eight kids minimum when you have a hard time filling those spaces, then putting the whole weight of the party happening on a friend's shoulders is a good way to lose a friend. That is not good etiquette.

As I said, I had enough to do to handle my own kid's parties. I would not want that much responsibility for someone else's too. You should expect some cancellations. Period.

BigHeadBertha · 18/05/2025 01:54

TheHerboriste · 18/05/2025 01:03

Wow. This is just beyond the pale. Talk about speculation and fabrication.

And fyi, etiquette and manners don’t only apply to weddings. It’s not too much to expect decent conduct by children.

Wow. Your response has absolutely nothing to do with what I actually posted. Please read before arguing.

And fyi, show courtesy yourself before preaching about it to others.

TheHerboriste · 18/05/2025 01:52

AthWat · 18/05/2025 01:04

Bear in mind that the daughter might seem like a good friend at the moment because her mother can control who she talks to. It's very unlikely that the mother has forced the daughter to choose the other party. People are basically suggesting her mother should have forced her to go to the one she doesn't want to go to.

She should have.

Teaching and enforcing decent behaviour takes precedence over a couple hours enjoyment on a Saturday afternoon. It’s called parenting v pandering.

TheShadowOfTheWizard · 18/05/2025 01:52

Secondchoice2 · 17/05/2025 20:49

They are friends, they play together most days. She was just scared of paintball.

Paintball hurts like a bitch. I hope your boy has a wonderful time 🙏 😻❤️

TheHerboriste · 18/05/2025 01:50

Secondchoice2 · 18/05/2025 01:13

About three times a week. I do pick up from school and then the kids are on the playground for 1-2 hours. I was so upset this week that my DH did all pick ups.

Ugh.

Can your husband continue for a while?

Get some dark glasses and be busy/on the phone if you must be there.

TheInternetNeverForgets · 18/05/2025 01:39

Aw I’m sorry OP. That’s crap and I would want to ghost fuck out of her too. But I probably wouldn’t because of the impact on my child. It would be an incredibly hard pill to swallow.

To be honest though, she’s maybe starting to worry about her daughter not fitting in with the girls, wanting at 10 to encourage some female friendships, wanting to make sure her daughter isn’t on the outside of the girls in her class. Whilst I think she has gone about it in a horrible way (and I certainly wouldn’t have done that myself), I can sympathise with that a bit.

MrsSunshine2b · 18/05/2025 01:37

Secondchoice2 · 18/05/2025 01:03

you are right, it is so selfish and hurtful. How do I respond when I next see her?

I'm probably not the best person to advise as I tend to just say it as it is.

So I'd just say, "We both know that you blew off DS's party for another party despite having RSVP'd, and that I'd planned the party around having 8 children. It's really rude and hurtful of you and it's shit parenting to teach your daughter she doesn't have to honour commitments she's made to her friends."

TatteredAndTorn · 18/05/2025 01:35

TheHerboriste · 17/05/2025 23:32

This is emblematic of the fucked-up me-first attitudes so many kids are being raised with, and why we are ending up with so many immature, interpersonally incompetent adults unable to consider anyone but themselves.

This.

What can you do? You tell your daughter that she has already committed to someone else and it would be incredibly rude and hurtful to now take back that commitment because you had a better offer. Teach your child some manners and how not to be completely selfish.

TatteredAndTorn · 18/05/2025 01:31

McCartneyOnTheHeath · 17/05/2025 19:37

It's not a nice thing to do, but maybe her daughter is better friends with the other girl? Maybe she'd just prefer to go to that party? Try not to take it personally.

Tough shit. She’d already committed to someone else. You just don’t do that. What a terrible example to set her daughter.

And of course it’s personal. If my friend cancelled on me because they had a better offer, I’d take that fucking personally. It’s incredibly rude and bad mannered and definitely personal!

Tbrh · 18/05/2025 01:16

I'd suggest:
Thanks for letting me know. As you realise, this will now mean I will probably need to cancel the party. I really wish you had been clear that you were only a tentative, as I wouldn't have changed the activity to suit your DD or committed to an activity that required a minimum number. I hope DD enjoys x's party.
Definitely call her out, but don't expect anything from her as people like this don't usually feel any guilt. I hope your son has a wonderful day!

Secondchoice2 · 18/05/2025 01:13

About three times a week. I do pick up from school and then the kids are on the playground for 1-2 hours. I was so upset this week that my DH did all pick ups.

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Secondchoice2 · 18/05/2025 01:10

BigHeadBertha · 18/05/2025 00:15

I totally agree. This is a small party for a ten-year-old's birthday, not a wedding.

As far as invitations and etiquette, if my kid had already accepted a party invitation, under normal circumstances, that's the party my kid would attend. It's important to teach manners.

However, the OP doesn't know that the other invitation actually is the reason the other mother withdrew her child's acceptance, she only assumes it.

After reading this thread, I think it's quite possible that other mother actually decided to withdraw from this party because the OP had just gotten to be too much.

The other invitation could have been her way of relieving her daughter's disappointment or it could even have just been a coincidence.

This thread is seeming increasingly off-kilter to me because the other mother and her child seem to have been made solely responsible for the success or failure of the OP's kid's party.

The other mother says her kid can't make it after all and suddenly she is a "cow bag" and a "shit bag?"

Wow. If that's how dependent and intense the OP had become with the other mother, I don't blame her for getting out of this deal.

If I hadn't agreed to throw or co-host a party, I wouldn't want all that on my shoulders.

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You are obviously blessed. My child has a good relationship with Cowbag’s daughter. This was a terrible breach of etiquette. And very hurtful.

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TheHerboriste · 18/05/2025 01:08

Secondchoice2 · 18/05/2025 01:03

you are right, it is so selfish and hurtful. How do I respond when I next see her?

How often must you see her, and under what circumstances?

It’s a dilemma for you.

What’s that expression: “when people show you who they are, believe them.”

💐💐💐

TheHerboriste · 18/05/2025 01:05

Calliopespa · 17/05/2025 23:37

Totally agree. And the worst of it is they are so self-congratulatory for behaving that way.

Exactly.

They are proud of being ignorant, backward and antisocial!

No aspiration whatsoever to better themselves or their children.

AthWat · 18/05/2025 01:04

MrsSunshine2b · 18/05/2025 01:00

I think you can. They are 10- soon to be 11- and she isn't going to be able to control who her daughter talks to for long. She needs to face consequences.

Bear in mind that the daughter might seem like a good friend at the moment because her mother can control who she talks to. It's very unlikely that the mother has forced the daughter to choose the other party. People are basically suggesting her mother should have forced her to go to the one she doesn't want to go to.

Secondchoice2 · 18/05/2025 01:04

TheHerboriste · 18/05/2025 01:03

Wow. This is just beyond the pale. Talk about speculation and fabrication.

And fyi, etiquette and manners don’t only apply to weddings. It’s not too much to expect decent conduct by children.

This

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TheHerboriste · 18/05/2025 01:03

BigHeadBertha · 18/05/2025 00:15

I totally agree. This is a small party for a ten-year-old's birthday, not a wedding.

As far as invitations and etiquette, if my kid had already accepted a party invitation, under normal circumstances, that's the party my kid would attend. It's important to teach manners.

However, the OP doesn't know that the other invitation actually is the reason the other mother withdrew her child's acceptance, she only assumes it.

After reading this thread, I think it's quite possible that other mother actually decided to withdraw from this party because the OP had just gotten to be too much.

The other invitation could have been her way of relieving her daughter's disappointment or it could even have just been a coincidence.

This thread is seeming increasingly off-kilter to me because the other mother and her child seem to have been made solely responsible for the success or failure of the OP's kid's party.

The other mother says her kid can't make it after all and suddenly she is a "cow bag" and a "shit bag?"

Wow. If that's how dependent and intense the OP had become with the other mother, I don't blame her for getting out of this deal.

If I hadn't agreed to throw or co-host a party, I wouldn't want all that on my shoulders.

Edited

Wow. This is just beyond the pale. Talk about speculation and fabrication.

And fyi, etiquette and manners don’t only apply to weddings. It’s not too much to expect decent conduct by children.

Secondchoice2 · 18/05/2025 01:03

MrsSunshine2b · 18/05/2025 00:53

That's incredibly rude and hurtful of her and I'd absolutely call her out and end the friendship.

you are right, it is so selfish and hurtful. How do I respond when I next see her?

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