Woman declared legally dead is being kept alive due to state’s abortion laws

Would this technically even be an abortion?

One definition I found is "a medical intervention to end a pregnancy growing in the womb". In this case no medical intervention need take place.

Another definition is "a medical procedure to end a pregnancy". Surely turning off life support is not "a medical procedure"?

I'm not sure that a foetus which can't survive outside the womb is a baby any more than a trans woman is a woman...

It’s extremely hard to keep a brain dead person alive;they need an enormous amount of medication and other extremely invasive interventions; for example they cannot maintain their own blood pressure etc

It’s highly likely she could die before she even gets to a viable gestation from complications like organ failure and the amount of pressure on her body could cause a miscarriage anyway.

Its completely undignified and cruel.

Also, what about a situation where a 13 year old is 100% going to die if she continues the pregnancy, but the baby has a 1% chance of survival. You are also, with your 100% anti abortion stance, against abortion in that case, so can you explain what happened in the 13 years of that girl's life that made her so much less valuable than a barely viable foetus?

I think some posters are, understandably, reacting to this story emotionally; imagining their living child if they themselves were in a coma / brain dead.

This is a baby who if survives will never have known it's mother's voice or smell. The bump will never have been gently rocked by their mother's motions. It's all a bit Frankenstein tbh. Can you image trying to replicate the blood gases and hormone processes that happens during pregnancy; that's just the processes I can think of in the human body as I'm not a Doctor .

My dear sister was in a coma, brain dead and it was clear that her body was trying to die despite being on life support. She was not in a Disney Sleeping Beauty state of stasis. If she was heavily pregnant, then we might have considered allowing the baby to to be born while on life support but if she was at an early stage of pregnancy, as much as it pains me to say, I would have wanted the baby to slip away with her.

I feel so much for the family and I hope whatever happens they find peace. It's a horrible, sad and upsetting situation to face and I hate the religious / anti abortion arseholes who will probably never have to face being in this situation.

I don’t think that’s correct, she had headaches went to hospital they sent her away with medicine, didn’t do any tests/ scans.

Woke up her partner gasping for breath, he called 911. Ambulance to hospital, there they fix a ct scan and found blood clots, her mom is next of kin gave permission for surgery that wasn’t successful.

I think it’s common for A&E here too. I’ve been admitted to hospital a few days after attending A&E and being told nothing serious.

No, I am not the one with a 100% stance, you are. Can you answer my question first? Then I'll be happy to answer yours.

So do you only agree with the less than 1% of abortions where this is the case?

I don't think it's possible to have a 100% stance on that issue if you have ever tried to apply reason to it. However, the poster may prove me wrong.

I think they can be made bankrupt. I suspect there will be some sort of payment plan and she was a nurse ( at the hospital she is in) so will have some insurance.

I do think there is a legal arguement that the medical care is not for Adriana, but for the fetus. A child / disabled under 18 yo can have their medical care covered under Medicaid. It feels like a natural extension so if life begins at fetal heart beat perhaps medical bills can start being attributed at that point too?

At least she’s oblivious to it all. It’s the family I feel sorry for.

almost worse is the only reason she IS brain dead is because of that pregnancy

She had horrific headaches and because of the heartbeat laws they wouldn't do lifesaving medical care, and a blood clot left her brain dead.

They killed her, then have left her dead body being kept artificially alive to incubate a baby.

It's beyond grotesque.

So if a 13 year old is raped by her father, she has to have the child, even if it's reported the following day? What makes you think this is the best way to handle the situation?

Yeah, if it's.

I'd the baby wasn't injured by whatever happened to mum, then providing the hospital manage to lay the woman attacks, in most cases the baby is fine.

They're was a case in the Czech republic of a woman kept alive for about 5m so her baby could survive. Baby was perfectly healthy.

But it's also not easy to keep a woman with no brain activity stable, so not all make it.

I think it's an amazing thing to be able to do where we know mum would have wanted it and the family are in favour. The issues here are that the family are against it, it was very early on in pregnancy, that the baby is so poorly it might not survive or be proudly disabled and that the family will be lumbered with the bill.

If the foetus is a life then the family should be able to take out life insurance

What a bloody excellent point @Snorlaxo

Absolutely fucking bonkers. This is the negative part of religion and its influence in society. It’s not on

Just horrendous. That poor woman, there is no dignity at all for her.

That says it better than I did. And I’m anti abortion. But this is just not acceptable.

And this is a looking glass into our future if we continue to vote for Reform. Anyone who is a woman, or cares about a woman, should wake up and smell the coffee. Nige thinks the sun shines out of Donny T’s arse. The UK would be following suit under a Reform government.

As I said, I'm 100% anti-abortion.

I don’t understand why this would class as an abortion. The poor woman is dead. And as a result the baby will die as well. That’s different from electively choosing an abortion.

You’re right. And any political movement which is pro death penalty isn’t acting in good faith. It’s not about the sanctity of life. Hopefully cases like this will lead to more humane laws.

They get sued I’m guessing. The US is absolutely barbaric these days. Land of the free my arse.