Woman declared legally dead is being kept alive due to state’s abortion laws

I hate to break it to you but many states in America incest and rape doesn't matter they force them to carry the babies too 😡

There's a woman on Facebook whose page stumbled across before not sure how but her whole thing is about how brain dead is a lie and has many followers saying the same thing. Basically their view on this is the nan is trying to murder both her daughter and her granddaughter and also there's a few posts of the mother is going to wake up so why do they want to kill her...

Such a sad situation and especially as the choice of the family doesn't matter!! The case in Ireland sounded so horrific what was being done to try and keep her body going before sense came.

Have you not understood how it works yet?

The Left passes awful laws: The Left are accountable.

The Right passes awful laws: The Left are accountable.

No matter the issue, no matter who is in power: “It’s The Left’s Fault!”

Horrifying. There seems to be some confusion between abortion and accepting that the foetus of a woman who dies so early in the pregnancy is not viable.

The UK has been governed by a right wing party from 2010 to last year. So how have "the left" done anything in the UK?
Which laws are you talking about and who brought them in and when?

There’s been no change in laws in the Uk around sex? Ok.

The question was which countries has been governed by the left and enacted the laws that you don't like. I mean it's clearly not the UK.

Also call me a cynic, but I think one of the main reasons that rape and incest are exceptions in abortion laws is so men don't have to raise a child that is not theirs (if their wife or partner is raped by another man) and incest so the man's crimes are not so obvious.

If you're dead, what does it matter?

Of course it matters. Her family can't organise a funeral to say goodbye and grieve her death. Instead they have to stand by whilst this horrendous medical experiment is carried out.

A lot of people express wishes of what they would like to happen after their death; organ donation, burial, cremation, scattering ashes in the mountains, donantion to medical science, whatever, it's about choice and respect for the one who has passed on.

I would argue (if you're giving foetuses rights), that an unborn baby has the right to be gestated in an alive mother. I'd say it's pretty fundamental.

Of course you’re allowed an opinion. But this is the consequence of your opinion. If you are unhappy with the consequences, then it is time to examine your opinion and whether you still hold it. There’s no shame in that.

I assume it matters to her family. Do you not think it’s hard for her 7 to visit her in hospital to see his mother knowing there is no hope for her.

If you're dead, what does it matter?

Not comparable. It was never locked down because they wanted to hold voters hostage over it. Dreadful.

But surely it would be stopping the medical intervention of the mother? Don't understand this at all. Its not an abortion and it's not medical intervention that could lead to the death of a foetus by turning off a machine. In fact its just letting nature do its own thing

Absolutely, a cracking impression of a dimwit.

Just a reminder that Malta has some of the most restrictive abortion laws in Europe and also has self identification of gender. There is absolutely nothing stopping a government of any type deciding that they're going to implement more restrictive abortion laws except constant vigilance. I'm as pro choice as its possible to be but I recognise that culture has more impact on the laws that get passed than the label on the government. Tbh the long history of posh British women of left and right being into eugenics has some influence on why we have the abortion and contraception culture we have. But it still means that the foundational freedom not to be used as an incubator whether dead or alive is ours.

And people are allowed to disagree with your opinion.

It's different if an emergency CS is performed to save a baby if the mother is dying or has died. She isn't being kept artificially going in order to incubabte the foetus.

A few PP have wondered why this case is considered so horrific, it's becuase a fœtus is being gestated in its dead mother's corpse. It's all very experimental and extremely unlikely this particular baby will ever be born alive.
The family do not consent and I don't think it should be allowed.

Any and all watering down of sex based protections.

good lord! You have no idea what you are talking about.

CT scans use X rays. You get a CT scan if clinically indicated and potential benefit out weighs risk. An ‘iron curtain’ (you mean a lead gown, although they are not made of lead any more), would not be helpful and could actually increase dose to the foetus.

Sounds like in your case, you didn’t initially
meet the threshold for a CT. When you represented with ‘stroke like symptoms’ you did. Also sounds like you hadn’t actually had a stroke or anything that was detected by the CT so your clinicians were entirely justified in their initial assessment and decision.

Under his eye

Same question to you then. What countries have been governed by the left over the last 15 years and done these things that you claim "let the right in"?