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To think it's unacceptable to say you don't like children?

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BirdPlanet · 17/05/2025 09:23

Increasingly I've heard people saying some variation of the statement 'I don't like children'. I don't see why this is in any way acceptable. You wouldn't say that you 'don't like' any other category of person. If I said I didn't like the elderly or middle-aged women as a group, I'd get slapped down, yet somehow people think it's okay to talk about children as if they aren't human beings. Is it because they can't speak or advocate for themselves? Children aren't some kind of homogeneous entity. They have personalities and different temperaments, just as adults do.

Inevitably people will say that it's used as a shorthand for disliking the behaviour of some children, but even so, that’s more of a reflection of poor parenting than anything else.

OP posts:
Calliopespa · 17/05/2025 20:07

Rumbley · 17/05/2025 20:05

I reckon the backdrop of the OP’s thread is that she’s just overheard someone say that they don’t like children, pointedly referring to her children.

That’s what I assumed too.

ohyesido · 17/05/2025 20:06

@Rumbley you do that, do it twice if you want

Rumbley · 17/05/2025 20:05

I reckon the backdrop of the OP’s thread is that she’s just overheard someone say that they don’t like children, pointedly referring to her children.

Rumbley · 17/05/2025 20:04

ohyesido · 17/05/2025 19:57

Children are the future.

today belongs to me and I don’t want sticky fingered toddlers, precocious tweens or obnoxious teenagers in my orbit thanks

I’ll take a punt not many people fancy being in your orbit. Adults and kids alike

Rumbley · 17/05/2025 20:03

ohyesido · 17/05/2025 19:40

Narcissists aren’t synonymous with child killers, smuggins

Devoid of empathy? As I say, for the best

ohyesido · 17/05/2025 19:57

Children are the future.

today belongs to me and I don’t want sticky fingered toddlers, precocious tweens or obnoxious teenagers in my orbit thanks

Talkwhilstyouwalk · 17/05/2025 19:55

It's fine not to like them but each and every one of us was a child once, so to me it's a really silly thing to say out loud.

OneWildBee · 17/05/2025 19:53

GreenFriedTomato · 17/05/2025 19:29

That's ridiculous. People saying they don't like children is likely due to shitty behaviours..and is in no way comparable to saying you don't like people with ginger hair or white skin or cerebral palsy.

Ridiculous comparison

And they clearly mean the children that get on your nerves, not the sweet ones. I can spend all day with nice kids.

I often say, I can't stand old people. The ones who demand respect just because they are old. And I mean the obnoxious twits, not the nice old people like me.

No, we’re talking about people who say ‘O don’t like kids’, none of the caveats you’ve invented - you can’t just make up they don’t mean xyz ones, the OP is literally referring to the generalisation of ‘I don’t like kids’.

So I’m asking that poster who keeps saying it’s an opinion to dislike a particular societal group where the line is? How do you police which groups are acceptable to vocalise your disdain for and which aren’t? Because they’re saying that it’s okay to publicly share your hatred for one particular vulnerable group, so which groups are we allowed to dislike vocally and which aren’t and who gets to decide where the line is?

MayaPinion · 17/05/2025 19:46

Sounds like a you problem.

ohyesido · 17/05/2025 19:45

LizzieW1969 · 17/05/2025 19:43

No, but it shows how ridiculous your opinion is. Yes, some children are very annoying, but there are also some who are lovely and very well behaved. (Though they sometimes get over excited.). But there are also some very obnoxious adults.

So at what age do children miraculously transform from being ‘horrid’ to being fully functioning adults?

That’s your inference which I’m not responsible for. And it’s a gradual process like osmosis. Some are still terrible at 25.

LizzieW1969 · 17/05/2025 19:43

ohyesido · 17/05/2025 19:36

I don’t care if I was. It doesn’t make any difference to my disposition towards children.

No, but it shows how ridiculous your opinion is. Yes, some children are very annoying, but there are also some who are lovely and very well behaved. (Though they sometimes get over excited.). But there are also some very obnoxious adults.

So at what age do children miraculously transform from being ‘horrid’ to being fully functioning adults?

AllPlayedOut · 17/05/2025 19:41

I suspect that she’ll happily keep away from children. People who don’t like children tend to avoid being around them. They don’t seek them out and often actively avoid them so no need to worry. Children are far more at risk of harm from people who choose to be around them e.g parents, stepparents, teachers, grandparents, club leaders etc so you’re focusing on the wrong people.

OneWildBee · 17/05/2025 19:40

AzureOtter · 17/05/2025 19:20

But OP isn't saying that.

OP is saying she has heard people saying they don't like children.

Why is that unacceptable in your, and the OPs view?

So where do you draw the line? Kids are fine targets but other groups are not?

How can you police what groups are fair game? Genuine question - which groups are done to publicly hate and which groups are not? How do you decide?

You can feel however you want to feel but in a civilised society voicing those opinions is not always acceptable.

ohyesido · 17/05/2025 19:40

Rumbley · 17/05/2025 19:38

For the best you keep away from children given you’re a self-ascribed “narcissist” and have “no empathy” at all

Narcissists aren’t synonymous with child killers, smuggins

Rumbley · 17/05/2025 19:38

ohyesido · 17/05/2025 19:36

I don’t care if I was. It doesn’t make any difference to my disposition towards children.

For the best you keep away from children given you’re a self-ascribed “narcissist” and have “no empathy” at all

ohyesido · 17/05/2025 19:36

LizzieW1969 · 17/05/2025 19:34

So were you ‘horrid’ when you were a child? And when did you stop being ‘horrid’? On the day of your 18th birthday??

I don’t care if I was. It doesn’t make any difference to my disposition towards children.

LizzieW1969 · 17/05/2025 19:34

ohyesido · 17/05/2025 19:33

Why? I don’t like children, they are generally horrid and I have no interest in them whatsoever

So were you ‘horrid’ when you were a child? And when did you stop being ‘horrid’? On the day of your 18th birthday??

ohyesido · 17/05/2025 19:33

Why? I don’t like children, they are generally horrid and I have no interest in them whatsoever

AzureOtter · 17/05/2025 19:32

MsCactus · 17/05/2025 19:14

Also - you keep saying it's just opinions, not actions so it's fine to say.

Well speech influences people's thoughts and actions. Take Nazism and all the messaging about disliking Jews - in WWII it ended in genocide.

Saying derogatory things about an entire group of people changes how people think about them and how people treat them. We've seen this consistently throughout history.

Children are vulnerable in society, so it's punching down and it's more akin to saying "I don't like disabled people/I don't like another vulnerable group" and we already know that having negative/stereotyped opinions about an entire group of people in society is not harmless.

You are seriously suggesting that someone saying they don't like children is in any way similar to Nazism? and could lead to genocide?

It's not derogatory to say you don't like children or any group.

You are so offensive, and so ridiculous and need to get the hell off the internet because you have no idea about history or anything else.

I'm embarrassed for you.

GreenFriedTomato · 17/05/2025 19:29

OneWildBee · 17/05/2025 18:21

So ‘I don’t like people with ginger hair, I don’t like white people, I don’t like people with cerebral palsy’ - these are all acceptable to things to say out loud?

It’s okay to have an opinion, sometimes it’s not okay to verbalise it to others.

Edited

That's ridiculous. People saying they don't like children is likely due to shitty behaviours..and is in no way comparable to saying you don't like people with ginger hair or white skin or cerebral palsy.

Ridiculous comparison

And they clearly mean the children that get on your nerves, not the sweet ones. I can spend all day with nice kids.

I often say, I can't stand old people. The ones who demand respect just because they are old. And I mean the obnoxious twits, not the nice old people like me.

Blessthismess2 · 17/05/2025 19:26

LimitedBrightSpots · 17/05/2025 18:49

Isn't that the whole point of the thread? Whether or not it's acceptable to dislike a whole group of people based on age.

Oh sorry I see that was the point you were making 😆

nomas · 17/05/2025 19:24

MsCactus · 17/05/2025 19:14

Also - you keep saying it's just opinions, not actions so it's fine to say.

Well speech influences people's thoughts and actions. Take Nazism and all the messaging about disliking Jews - in WWII it ended in genocide.

Saying derogatory things about an entire group of people changes how people think about them and how people treat them. We've seen this consistently throughout history.

Children are vulnerable in society, so it's punching down and it's more akin to saying "I don't like disabled people/I don't like another vulnerable group" and we already know that having negative/stereotyped opinions about an entire group of people in society is not harmless.

I think kids are amazing but you are reading meaning that’s not there.

When people say they don’t like kids, they’re mainly saying they don’t want kids or to have much to do with them.

And that’s a perfectly valid opinion, you can’t force people to feel differently.

Catsandcannedbeans · 17/05/2025 19:24

I’ve never met someone who dislikes children who I like. Just a personal thing, but when someone announces they dislike children I have very little time for them. This was even pre children. I’m from a big family and grew up surrounded by kids, so I don’t really get why people dislike them. They’re noisy and annoying, but they can’t help it. I don’t think people who don’t like kids are bad people, but they’re not people I want to be around. Especially now I have kids lol.

AzureOtter · 17/05/2025 19:20

OneWildBee · 17/05/2025 19:03

Again, so you think someone who has the opinion ‘I hate people with Down’s Syndrome’ ‘I hate white people’ ‘Inhate blonds’ for example, should be allowed to express that as freely as they want?

Again, you can have opinions but voicing those opinions isn’t always acceptable.

Edited

But OP isn't saying that.

OP is saying she has heard people saying they don't like children.

Why is that unacceptable in your, and the OPs view?

MsCactus · 17/05/2025 19:14

AzureOtter · 17/05/2025 18:58

Right, so opinions only.

That's it. Just opinions.

Why do you think certain opinions should not be allowed?

Also - you keep saying it's just opinions, not actions so it's fine to say.

Well speech influences people's thoughts and actions. Take Nazism and all the messaging about disliking Jews - in WWII it ended in genocide.

Saying derogatory things about an entire group of people changes how people think about them and how people treat them. We've seen this consistently throughout history.

Children are vulnerable in society, so it's punching down and it's more akin to saying "I don't like disabled people/I don't like another vulnerable group" and we already know that having negative/stereotyped opinions about an entire group of people in society is not harmless.

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