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To think it's unacceptable to say you don't like children?

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BirdPlanet · 17/05/2025 09:23

Increasingly I've heard people saying some variation of the statement 'I don't like children'. I don't see why this is in any way acceptable. You wouldn't say that you 'don't like' any other category of person. If I said I didn't like the elderly or middle-aged women as a group, I'd get slapped down, yet somehow people think it's okay to talk about children as if they aren't human beings. Is it because they can't speak or advocate for themselves? Children aren't some kind of homogeneous entity. They have personalities and different temperaments, just as adults do.

Inevitably people will say that it's used as a shorthand for disliking the behaviour of some children, but even so, that’s more of a reflection of poor parenting than anything else.

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Sarah2891 · 17/05/2025 11:35

The only thing I find disturbing is if people say they hate kids.
Fair enough if people don't like being around them.

UsernameMcUsername · 17/05/2025 11:33

Part of my frustration with this thread is that all the things which potentially frustrate me or make me nervous about interacting with younger children (including my own at that age) also frustrate me or make me nervous regarding adults with intellectual disabilities or suffering from dementia. But it wouldn't even enter my head to say I "don't like" them. In fact I've always regretted that I'm not naturally more patient and sensitive with adults in those situations and have worked on that as best I can.

pinkyredrose · 17/05/2025 11:32

I didn't like children even when i was one.

xanthomelana · 17/05/2025 11:31

BashfulClam · 17/05/2025 11:30

I’m going to an adult only hotel tomorrow, no kids disco, no kids crying, running about and screaming. No frazzled parents trying to stop little Johnny dive bombing and splashing others at the pool.

Yes there’s always a little Johnny unfortunately 🤣

xanthomelana · 17/05/2025 11:31

UsernameMcUsername · 17/05/2025 11:25

But then threads that actually are all children & parenting get input from people with zero experience of either, which can get tiring.

The majority of topics on MN have absolutely nothing to do with parenting. Plus just because you’ve had kids doesn’t make you qualified to give advice, I’ve got kids but advice on different things such as weaning has changed so much over the years what I did is well out of date.

BashfulClam · 17/05/2025 11:30

xanthomelana · 17/05/2025 11:23

Depends what context it’s said in. We’ve just booked an adult only hotel abroad because our kids are now adults themselves and I don’t want to be around other peoples children, can’t stand them touching food then putting it back etc. When I was talking about it with colleagues I did say we purposely booked adult only as we don’t like kids but that doesn’t mean I’d actively ignore children or wish them harm I just avoid being around them if it’s possible.

I’m going to an adult only hotel tomorrow, no kids disco, no kids crying, running about and screaming. No frazzled parents trying to stop little Johnny dive bombing and splashing others at the pool.

Goatinthegarden · 17/05/2025 11:30

I’m a primary teacher and I love my job. I like children Mon-Fri 9-4. But I actually don’t like being around children when I’m not working. it’s not the same as being around a group, such as elderly people, because when with children you need to watch what you say and do. Conversations with adults within earshot of children must be edited. If I want to go swimming (for example), a friend the same age can join and it’s companionable, we can focus on our own exercise needs and then have a chat in the jacuzzi after. Elderly relative can be left in the cafe with a book until I return, or they can meet me later. If a small child is involved, they will likely want to come, they need help getting ready and will need watching like a hawk to make sure they don’t drown, cry, get lonely, etc. I wouldn’t be able to focus on my enjoyment of the activity. This pretty much goes for all activities involving children.

Children are a unique group of individuals that differ because they need to be looked after, nurtured, etc. Even people who say they don’t like them, accept the need to behave appropriately around them, and that requires a level of energy. It’s also very much frowned upon to correct the behaviour of someone else’s child, so if they’re misbehaving in your presence, you often have to bite your tongue.

godmum56 · 17/05/2025 11:28

arethereanyleftatall · 17/05/2025 10:03

but the difference there is patience is required for EVERY toddler, because of the fact they’re 2, and don’t know how to do everything yet, whereas not EVERY elderly person requires patience.

they are the one and only group of people who DO have a common thing which applies to all of them - that they haven’t learnt yet how to contribute interestingly to any topic. This doesn’t apply to any other group of people.

if I wanted to sit round a table and discuss any topic with a mixed group of strangers, say a 2 yr old, and then one person from each other decade, I wouldn’t know beforehand whether I would enjoy/agree with/find interesting the contributions from any of the people other than the 2yr old, which would be a no.

good point. I was trying to formulate something like this but you said it better

soupyspoon · 17/05/2025 11:27

TroysMammy · 17/05/2025 11:23

I find it's all people but surprisingly not little children.

Its most children's specialist skill set on their CVs, its virtually in the job description for them to be entitled and rude, then parenting helps them out of it.

Then as you get older you quite enjoy regressing again to be childlike and entitled and rude, and no one can tell you off becuase you're a grown up

Its great!

UsernameMcUsername · 17/05/2025 11:25

sammylady37 · 17/05/2025 11:22

Really? How much time have you spent on mumsnet? It can’t be much if you aren’t aware of the plethora of boards here that discuss a wide and varied range of topics that have fuck all to do with being a mum. This very board we’re on right now, AIBU, as an example. Style & beauty, health, gardening, litter tray, chat, relationships, legal, work & jobs, AMA etc etc etc. the majority of mumsnet discussions have no specific parenting-related issues. It’s one of the biggest female-dominated spaces on the internet and that’s what attracts posters, irrespective of whether they are mothers. And, it may shock you to learn, there’s even a childfree board here. Mnhq have made it clear multiple times that childfree/childless posters are welcome here.

But then threads that actually are all children & parenting get input from people with zero experience of either, which can get tiring.

Chiseltip · 17/05/2025 11:25

Redpeach · 17/05/2025 09:37

Even racists

Yes. It's called freedom of thought and expression. You might not like hearing someone else's opinion, but if they aren't free to express it, then how can you also be free to express yours.

Who gets to decide what people are allowed to say?

What makes that person "right"?

stclementine · 17/05/2025 11:24

I wouldn’t say I don’t like children, but I find anything childish or child related really really dull and children’s conversation very dull too. I actually felt the same way when I was a child. So 🤷‍♀️

TroysMammy · 17/05/2025 11:24

Cynic17 · 17/05/2025 11:18

Am I allowed to say "I quite like children, but I couldn't eat a whole one"? 😉

Is that you Sharon who I used to work with? 😂😂

GreenFressia · 17/05/2025 11:24

You can have rational reasons for disliking something- I might dislike hitting because I think violence is bad. But does that mean all hitting is wrong? Hitting a ball? No.

Iwantmyoldnameback · 17/05/2025 11:24

BirdPlanet · 17/05/2025 09:29

'I don't like elderly women, they're annoying.'

Can you not see how offensive and silly a statement this is? I don't see why it's different for children. And not all children are noisy, some are quiet, some are loud.

Errm have you seen the boomer hate on here?

UsernameMcUsername · 17/05/2025 11:24

Catapultaway · 17/05/2025 09:41

People say they don't like all sorts of categories of persons 😂 why should children be different.

Um, nooooo they don't. Go around cheerfully announcing that you just don't like black people / Muslims / Jews / old people / people with learning disabilities etc and see how long you stay employed or keep your friends. Announce it online too much and without anonymity and the police may turn up.

SerendipityJane · 17/05/2025 11:23

I thought the compromise was that it was OK not to like other peoples children ?

Also, I'd rather judge on actions not words. A couple of childless friends were quite of the "we don't like children" ilk. Yet were fantastic with ours at social events. Meanwhile fellow parents .... well you'd think they'd cope as they have kids of their own 😁

xanthomelana · 17/05/2025 11:23

Depends what context it’s said in. We’ve just booked an adult only hotel abroad because our kids are now adults themselves and I don’t want to be around other peoples children, can’t stand them touching food then putting it back etc. When I was talking about it with colleagues I did say we purposely booked adult only as we don’t like kids but that doesn’t mean I’d actively ignore children or wish them harm I just avoid being around them if it’s possible.

TroysMammy · 17/05/2025 11:23

Kreepture · 17/05/2025 10:23

I don't like old people, they're entitled and rude.

I find it's all people but surprisingly not little children.

godmum56 · 17/05/2025 11:22

SquashedMallow · 17/05/2025 10:44

I think it's a cold and crass thing to say. I think less of people that say it.

Personally, I think it comes from a place of older women pretending they never wanted children but deep down they would have liked it, it just never happened for them for one reason or another and they become inbittered.

It's a sad person that cannot tolerate the laughter and playfulness of young children.

personally I think you are wrong

sammylady37 · 17/05/2025 11:22

UsernameMcUsername · 17/05/2025 11:13

I don't get this either, I must admit

Really? How much time have you spent on mumsnet? It can’t be much if you aren’t aware of the plethora of boards here that discuss a wide and varied range of topics that have fuck all to do with being a mum. This very board we’re on right now, AIBU, as an example. Style & beauty, health, gardening, litter tray, chat, relationships, legal, work & jobs, AMA etc etc etc. the majority of mumsnet discussions have no specific parenting-related issues. It’s one of the biggest female-dominated spaces on the internet and that’s what attracts posters, irrespective of whether they are mothers. And, it may shock you to learn, there’s even a childfree board here. Mnhq have made it clear multiple times that childfree/childless posters are welcome here.

soupyspoon · 17/05/2025 11:19

Hwi · 17/05/2025 11:11

It is unacceptable to say anything that might upset anyone. If in real life people would say more often to themselves 'Who gives a shit about my opinion', and keep their gobs shut about everything apart from the weather and similar, the world would be a much nicer place. To express opinions without upsetting people in real life there is MN and other forums, where you can venture an opinion because everyone is anonymised.

Basically, in real life there is no need at all to say 'I don't like children' because you should realise your opinion is of no interest to anyone.

Humans talk and converse though, only in the UK are we so frightened of upsetting someone that we basically say nothing. Its not my responsibility to 'not upset someone'.

If you are upset, you are upset.

Cynic17 · 17/05/2025 11:18

Am I allowed to say "I quite like children, but I couldn't eat a whole one"? 😉

UsernameMcUsername · 17/05/2025 11:17

aurynne · 17/05/2025 11:03

Who exactly is anyone offending by saying they don't like children?

I'm not offended. I just think its odd and unlikeable. Same with "I like dogs / cats better than people" types. I'm sure I'd feel different if I was a dog / cat, but I'm not 😂

Chiseltip · 17/05/2025 11:17

Whoarethoseguys · 17/05/2025 09:26

I agree. It's ok to say I don't want to have children , or I don't want to work with children, but a blanket I don't like children is odd and unacceptable just as I don't like old people is.

Edited

What's wrong with not liking old people?

Or not liking children?

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