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To think it's unacceptable to say you don't like children?

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BirdPlanet · 17/05/2025 09:23

Increasingly I've heard people saying some variation of the statement 'I don't like children'. I don't see why this is in any way acceptable. You wouldn't say that you 'don't like' any other category of person. If I said I didn't like the elderly or middle-aged women as a group, I'd get slapped down, yet somehow people think it's okay to talk about children as if they aren't human beings. Is it because they can't speak or advocate for themselves? Children aren't some kind of homogeneous entity. They have personalities and different temperaments, just as adults do.

Inevitably people will say that it's used as a shorthand for disliking the behaviour of some children, but even so, that’s more of a reflection of poor parenting than anything else.

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AllPlayedOut · 17/05/2025 12:25

OutandAboutMum1821 · 17/05/2025 12:19

YANBU OP, it’s horrible.

A lot of people have forgotten they were once children themselves.

Also, many children put the behaviour of adults to shame. They see the best in others, are kind and generous. I always feel humbled watching local children, some very young, picking up the rubbish strewn around our parks- they know it’s wrong.

That’s lovely. Perhaps they could teach the local high school students here how to dispose of litter because every school day they leave a long trail of litter from the local supermarkets back to the local school, including in people’s gardens, in spite of passing multiple bins.

Gwenhwyfar · 17/05/2025 12:23

KoalaPineapple · 17/05/2025 09:34

What brought you to mumsnet which is primarily a mum forum just out of interest?

There are plenty of non-parents here. The Talk board is actually primarily a women's forum.

Bellyblueboy · 17/05/2025 12:22

Hwi · 17/05/2025 11:11

It is unacceptable to say anything that might upset anyone. If in real life people would say more often to themselves 'Who gives a shit about my opinion', and keep their gobs shut about everything apart from the weather and similar, the world would be a much nicer place. To express opinions without upsetting people in real life there is MN and other forums, where you can venture an opinion because everyone is anonymised.

Basically, in real life there is no need at all to say 'I don't like children' because you should realise your opinion is of no interest to anyone.

This is becoming an view held by too many people.

It is unacceptable to say something that might upset people??

dear god - we have entered a Bonilla era we’re no one is allowed to have any opinions, were we can’t debate, can’t respect differences of opinion. Everyone has to tiptoe around each other. There can be no intelligent discussions, because we all lower ourselves to the lowest common denominator because we are terrified of upsetting people.

what’s wrong with people being upset? Why is it so confronting to hear an opinion that doesn’t match yours?

Middlechild3 · 17/05/2025 12:20

Children aren't fully evolved though so could generally be grouped as more demanding to be around? For me, as with all ages I like a few children, don't like others.

CleanShirt · 17/05/2025 12:20

JLou08 · 17/05/2025 12:10

I find it really strange when people say they don't like children. It's a weird generalisation, they're all so different. I think people either think they are cool and edgy making such a statement, they're sociopaths or deeply unhappy people who manage it with some hard faced defence mechanisms.

I'm none of those things. I've just chosen not to have children and actively choose not to spend time with them. Very happy with my lot and not a sociopath. Bit of a stretch.

soupyspoon · 17/05/2025 12:20

Interestingly in a world where the modern narrative is that people are encouraged to be 'their true self', there is more and more policing of people's thoughts and language.

OutandAboutMum1821 · 17/05/2025 12:19

YANBU OP, it’s horrible.

A lot of people have forgotten they were once children themselves.

Also, many children put the behaviour of adults to shame. They see the best in others, are kind and generous. I always feel humbled watching local children, some very young, picking up the rubbish strewn around our parks- they know it’s wrong.

YearlySubscriptionRenewal · 17/05/2025 12:16

People can think and say whatever they want. They don't have to be tolerant of anything or anyone either.

As long as they don't start going on a murderous rampage or even just threatening or abusive, it's not unacceptable to have any opinion they like. It's only becoming unacceptable to act on it.

Chloe793 · 17/05/2025 12:16

I don't really want to spend a lot of time with either young children or the elderly. My kids are young adults now. Does that mean i don't like either? I'm not sure, but they're certainly not my preferred age groups to spend time with.

Okthenguys · 17/05/2025 12:16

I don’t like most children. Sometimes not even my own. It doesn’t bother me when anyone says they don’t like children. What I find is if you say you don’t like dogs then you get an even more extreme reaction. Usually followed up with the dog owner insisting theirs is friendly and encouraging you to touch it or let it lick your clothes.

stclementine · 17/05/2025 12:15

Redpeach · 17/05/2025 11:35

There was a grumpy old git who lived in my village when i was growing up who said he hated children. Ever since i have associated child haters with curmudgeonly old fuckers

I will happily accept that description if it means people don’t bother me with their kids 😁

SquidProCrow · 17/05/2025 12:15

I think sometimes people say this as a reaction to the assumption that all women should love babies and children just because they’re female.

I have never disliked children en masse but before I had DD I was quite uninterested and unmoved by them and found it irritating that I was expected to gush over them just because. I used to sometimes say I could take or leave them.

I think child free women get tired of being expected to find other people’s offspring enthralling so they possibly say this to head it off at the pass.

whitewineandsun · 17/05/2025 12:11

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It's interesting that some women think that if other women say they don't want children, it's because they're secretly so sad they don't have any. No. We don't want them, and luckily, in most countries in this part of the world, women have bodily autonomy.

MrsSunshine2b · 17/05/2025 12:11

arethereanyleftatall · 17/05/2025 09:48

I think it’s different from the ‘I don’t like elderly people’ type comparison. Because. And I can’t think how to articulate it. They all have one thing in common and that’s that they haven’t been alive very long with many experiences. So, it is objectively true - for the adults who love discussing inner behaviours for example - to group them all together as a cohort where every single one of them cannot contribute interestingly to a life experience discussion. Whereas, the elderly have lived and have many different experiences, so it’s possible to find some interesting and some not. Whereas for some people, they could meet every child on the planet and not find a single one of them interesting.

If it's beyond the realms of your imagination that many children have had interesting experiences and/or have interesting perspectives, then you must be quite a boring person.

JLou08 · 17/05/2025 12:10

I find it really strange when people say they don't like children. It's a weird generalisation, they're all so different. I think people either think they are cool and edgy making such a statement, they're sociopaths or deeply unhappy people who manage it with some hard faced defence mechanisms.

housethatbuiltme · 17/05/2025 12:09

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I don't like children in general but have 3 of my own (loving my own family and not wanting to be around groups of random kids, two wildly different things) so that argument holds no water.

I find it interesting that many of my parent friends aren't 'kid' people but many of my child free by choice friends actively choose childcentric life styles (like primary school teacher etc...). Although I suppose if I had to watch other peoples kids all day I probably wouldn't want to get off work and do it all again too.

SabbatWheel · 17/05/2025 12:08

I don’t like other people’s young children. They become more interesting as teenagers.

soupyspoon · 17/05/2025 12:08

UsernameMcUsername · 17/05/2025 11:33

Part of my frustration with this thread is that all the things which potentially frustrate me or make me nervous about interacting with younger children (including my own at that age) also frustrate me or make me nervous regarding adults with intellectual disabilities or suffering from dementia. But it wouldn't even enter my head to say I "don't like" them. In fact I've always regretted that I'm not naturally more patient and sensitive with adults in those situations and have worked on that as best I can.

Thats because society doesnt enable us to be honest. Working with that demographic is extremely difficult and I cant manage it, its ok to say that. Im dreading if my OH or parents get dementia, Im not sure how I would manage it. Its ok to say that.

Conversations in other countries are a lot more honest about that sort of thing, including working with people with MH disorders, ND, LD etc etc.

Andoutcomethewolves · 17/05/2025 12:04

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Ha, I'm very happily child free and don't enjoy spending time around small children. I can assure you there's no envy here. Plenty of people like me. Not everyone wants kids, shocking as that may be to you.

TheHappyBug · 17/05/2025 12:04

ZepherinDrouhin · 17/05/2025 11:51

@TheHappyBug as a child did you dislike other children or was this something which developed as you grew older? What were you like as a child? Messy, dirty, annoying & loud?

To be fair I've met a lot of adults who've displayed the characteristics you hate in kids described in your post. A lot of adults are rude, crass, smelly, obnoxious, unpredictable and noisy

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I had a very abusive childhood so can’t really answer what I was like as it was very much moulded by circumstances. I was very quiet and helpful but can’t say I would have been like that in other circumstances.

I didn’t say they were messy though I just said they are unpredictable and noisy. Maybe you are confusing me with someone else?

housethatbuiltme · 17/05/2025 12:04

eh, most people don't like certain groups of people.

I don't like children (I absoloutly love my own though, don't expect anyone else to be forced to though). I find newborn babies fucking adorable though even though older children annoy me to the point of breakdown sometimes.

I also don't greatly like the elderly (I have nothing in common with them, most are of outdated view points too), I don't like stuck up middle class people, fox hunters, Nigel Farage voters and 'horse' people either (all for the same reasons that we just are completely different in interest, attitudes and lifestyles).

Not liking them means I would no seek to hang out with these groups (which lets be honest talking of kids if a middle age person willfully hung around with little kids at the park that are not their own children etc... thats fucking creepy and they're likely a wrong one) but it doesn't mean I go around drop kicking them on sight.

You are allowed to 'not like' something that you have nothing in common with.

My eldest is a teen now, since becoming a mid-teen many adults we know have started to befriend him at social events. They had no real interest until he was around 15 and could hold articulate conversations expressing educated ideas on things. Now they invite him to join in because people want to 'hang out' not babysit and thats absolutely fine.

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 17/05/2025 12:01

I agree 100%

Plus, you used to be a child!

By all means say “I don’t like looking after children”, but “I don’t like children” seems ridiculous to me.

Children are just humans!

Andoutcomethewolves · 17/05/2025 12:01

I don't think I'd say I dislike kids but I don't have much interest in them and generally actively avoid spending time with them, at least not until they're 8 or 9 and can hold a conversation. This applies to my nieces and nephews too who of course I love but still wouldn't want to be around them for any amount of time when small

SquashedMallow · 17/05/2025 12:00

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BirdPlanet · 17/05/2025 11:58

ResidentPorker · 17/05/2025 11:55

The difference between saying "I don't like children" and "I don't like elderly people" is that we are meant to adore children, prioritise them, tolerate their behaviour even if it irritates. Our society worships youth and loathes old age. Children can run around public spaces screaming and it's "aww, it's just kids being kids". Elderly people are meant to hide away and hurry up and die quietly

I don't think people are very tolerant of children running around screaming. Judging by this thread, even the most well-behaved children are still disliked. And when our society worships youth, it's not a 5 year old, it's an attractive young woman or man. I agree that ageism is rife and I don't agree with that, but I don't think people are particularly kind or tolerant of children either.

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