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SATS cheating - by the Head!

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Dilemmaramma · 16/05/2025 21:16

In my DC’s final SATS exam yesterday, the headteacher was overseeing and they picked up DC’s paper, DURING the exam, flicked through it, then rubbed out one of the answers and told DC to try again. They also pointed out another wrong answer and indicated DC should re-do that question.

This is clear cut cheating, right?

YABU - don’t report it, the whole year group could get their SATS voided and they’ll be devastated
YANBU - this is appalling and the Head needs to be investigated

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sakuraspring · 17/05/2025 08:43

Joyunlimited · 17/05/2025 08:40

It's very tricky. As an ex-primary HT and now a Chair of Governors I’ve been thinking about this overnight.

There's no doubt this was out-and-out cheating. The administration guidance for SATs says specifically that adults must not indicate in any way whether a child's answer is correct or not. Whether or not one approves of SATs is neither here nor there; primary schools are judged on them and it is infuriating for other local schools if one cheats and thus gains an advantage over them in parents' eyes by dishonestly making themselves out to be better than they are. (Quite apart from the implications for the child in their secondary school and the disgraceful action of a headteacher teaching a child that cheating in an exam is acceptable.)

I do have some sympathy for a headteacher in that position, perhaps under enormous pressure. I can absolutely understand it if they smile at a child when they see a correct answer, for instance - but actually rubbing out a wrong answer is another level of cheating. It is highly unlikely that your child is the only one the HT has ever "helped" in this way, and if not stopped they will probably continue to cheat in the future.

You are brave to have decided to talk to the HT - but what if they just deny it, and say your child misunderstood, was just given the rubber in case they needed it, etc., which is what they will probably say?

One option could be for you to phone the SATs Maladministration Helpline 03003033013, where there is nothing to stop you speaking anonymously if you wanted to. It is unlikely that there would be severe consequences for the HT as there would be no concrete proof, but the ensuing events might give the HT enough of a shock for them to never do it again. Good luck - whatever you decide to do, I’d be very interested to hear about it!

Oh I didn't know there was a phone number. I shall call that about what my daughter saw.

I don't care how much pressure someone is under, we have to draw the line at cheating (and indeed at putting so much pressure on children that it harms their wellbeing)

Joyunlimited · 17/05/2025 08:40

Dilemmaramma · 17/05/2025 07:43

Have read every reply, still hugely conflicted. I’m thinking of writing a letter to the head this weekend, and going to see them for a meeting next week.

They have clearly cheated. I’m not OK with that. But I’m worried about the implications for the children and the teaching staff of reporting it. Furious to have been put in this position, frankly.

It's very tricky. As an ex-primary HT and now a Chair of Governors I’ve been thinking about this overnight.

There's no doubt this was out-and-out cheating. The administration guidance for SATs says specifically that adults must not indicate in any way whether a child's answer is correct or not. Whether or not one approves of SATs is neither here nor there; primary schools are judged on them and it is infuriating for other local schools if one cheats and thus gains an advantage over them in parents' eyes by dishonestly making themselves out to be better than they are. (Quite apart from the implications for the child in their secondary school and the disgraceful action of a headteacher teaching a child that cheating in an exam is acceptable.)

I do have some sympathy for a headteacher in that position, perhaps under enormous pressure. I can absolutely understand it if they smile at a child when they see a correct answer, for instance - but actually rubbing out a wrong answer is another level of cheating. It is highly unlikely that your child is the only one the HT has ever "helped" in this way, and if not stopped they will probably continue to cheat in the future.

You are brave to have decided to talk to the HT - but what if they just deny it, and say your child misunderstood, was just given the rubber in case they needed it, etc., which is what they will probably say?

One option could be for you to phone the SATs Maladministration Helpline 03003033013, where there is nothing to stop you speaking anonymously if you wanted to. It is unlikely that there would be severe consequences for the HT as there would be no concrete proof, but the ensuing events might give the HT enough of a shock for them to never do it again. Good luck - whatever you decide to do, I’d be very interested to hear about it!

KellySeveride · 17/05/2025 08:36

Joyunlimited · 17/05/2025 08:09

"May be" wrong? How can cheating in a public examination (in a way specifically prohibited in the administration guidance) not be wrong?

May be was used because at the moment we have a ten year olds version of what’s happened.

KellySeveride · 17/05/2025 08:35

TorroFerney · 17/05/2025 08:33

The head teacher at my childs junior school got sacked for tinkering with the sats results. Not sure how she did it but it’s not beyond the realms of possibility. I was oblivious TIL it was in the local paper.

but in terms of motivation, is it not so patents are drawn to the school as it will advertise the results. Child’s primary school is in the catchment for the selective grammar and good sats may indicate good 11 plus results.

Edited

I wonder if it’s the same junior school/head teacher that I mentioned at my kids junior school.

TorroFerney · 17/05/2025 08:33

TheFormidableMrsC · 16/05/2025 21:30

SATS are info for the school to prepare your child for secondary. While this would be irregular, it is not going to affect your child’s future. Also as a person in education in a school that has just had SATS week, with staff deployed from all areas to assist, I’m having a hard time believing this actually happened.

The head teacher at my childs junior school got sacked for tinkering with the sats results. Not sure how she did it but it’s not beyond the realms of possibility. I was oblivious TIL it was in the local paper.

but in terms of motivation, is it not so patents are drawn to the school as it will advertise the results. Child’s primary school is in the catchment for the selective grammar and good sats may indicate good 11 plus results.

Orangesinthebag · 17/05/2025 08:33

Dilemmaramma · 17/05/2025 07:43

Have read every reply, still hugely conflicted. I’m thinking of writing a letter to the head this weekend, and going to see them for a meeting next week.

They have clearly cheated. I’m not OK with that. But I’m worried about the implications for the children and the teaching staff of reporting it. Furious to have been put in this position, frankly.

Honestly, I think you need to stop being so dramatic.
You haven't "been put" in any position. It's really just not that deep.

Chat to your child, explain it wasn't right but just let it go.
We all know it happens, we all know it isn't right but it's down to the ridiculous education system we have and the pressure schools are under.

I think really you are enjoying the drama and the sense of power you feel you have.

Cheating in GCSES which affect children's life chances I could understand someone taking this seriously but SATS, no, just let it go and move on.

DidStart · 17/05/2025 08:28

IButtleSir · 17/05/2025 07:05

So you've never seen what I'm describing. I've never seen what you're describing. Neither of the situations either of us have described are maladministration. The guidance makes absolutely no mention of how many adults should be in a room.

ETA: Obviously there should be at least one adult per room!

Edited

Test guidance.

The recommendation for having at least two test administrators in each test room during Key Stage 2 (KS2) SATs is outlined in the official guidance provided by the Standards and Testing Agency (STA). This measure ensures that headteachers can have confidence in the integrity of test administration.GOV.UK+3GOV.UK+3Schools Week+3
Specifically, the guidance states:

“STA recommends having at least 2 test administrators in each test room, so the headteacher can have confidence in the integrity of test administration.”

This recommendation is part of a broader set of guidelines aimed at maintaining the security and proper conduct of the tests. The presence of multiple administrators helps ensure that any issues can be promptly addressed and that test conditions are consistently upheld.

Full guidance here:GOV.UK
👉 Key stage 2 test administration guidance - GOV.UK
This document provides detailed instructions and is essential for headteachers and staff involved in the administration of KS2 assessments.

MissJeanBrodiesmother · 17/05/2025 08:19

They were v stupid to do this.
They will deny it if you approach them.
You will then be in the same dilemma.
The results of the whole year group may be withdrawn.
The school will sack the HT.
There will be a big investigation.
It basically won't be pretty.

If you are OK with this then fine. If not drop it. Once you open your mouth it will be out of your control.

TubeScreamer · 17/05/2025 08:18

I wouid check with parents of other chikdren to be 100% sure. Children often make things up and then get carried away.

if you believe that it did happen then go to the Chair of Governors not the Head.

DidStart · 17/05/2025 08:17

Common sense and LA/ union guidance defines this further. This is LA guidance.

Any staff member administering tests on their own is left vulnerable to being accused of actions that may compromise the integrity of the tests:
• All staff to be in at least pairs wherever possible
• Consider accessing and utilising staff from across the school and include governors as part of invigilation, following training
• Consider a timetable variation if required, where the Y6 cohort can be split into smaller groups
• Use of school hall and larger space (whole school timetable can be reshaped for 4 days!)

If maladministration is under investigation by STA, a person invidulating or supporting alone is so vulnerable. We always explain this during monitoring. Schools are taking a risk of maladministration being upheld ( no other proof) on behalf of their staff if they are alone.

JoyousEagle · 17/05/2025 08:17

Just in general, I hate the idea that a person reporting wrongdoing is responsible for the consequences that then occur for the person who was responsible for the wrongdoing in the first place.
If OP chooses to report this, any consequences are the fault of the head.

kingdom01 · 17/05/2025 08:13

So the Head only corrected your DC, no one else? Why on Earth would they do that

PinataHeeHaw · 17/05/2025 08:13

I agree. Some people are just strange. Ignore them, op.

DownToBusiness · 17/05/2025 08:11

Justmovehousethen · 17/05/2025 07:52

Incorrect.

SATS are pointless.

SATS are not a clear indicator of how well a school performs.

Our school is a military school - sometimes 40% of the year group can be students that have only just arrived several months before. If the SATS results are low, that’s not an indication that the school is shit, which it isn’t.

Not commenting on your school or its circumstances. I don't know them. I'm commenting on the headteacher who IS cheating to falsely improve their school's published performance. That is why they are cheating. And any head who condones cheating in SATs is a disgrace. If your school has a genuine reason for lower performance then obviously it will be known and understood by those associated with the school. It's not a reason to condone cheating by a headteacher- or anyone in charge of educating children.

throwaway25 · 17/05/2025 08:10

Our local secondary has an intake into Year 7 where at least a third of the children come from independent schools. No SATS in indies, so does this mean they’re irrelevant to that state secondary? I don’t really understand the point of SATS if not everyone actually takes them. Would love someone to explain them to me!

Azdcgbjml · 17/05/2025 08:10

Haggisfish3 · 16/05/2025 22:16

They absolutely do make a difference to secondary school. They are measured on how closely their students achieve their gcse grades which are, on the whole, predicted by sats. Schools can alter them internally but ultimately they are still judged on the government grades done by sats. It means some high schools can do a brilliant job with their students, but get rubbish value added because their original ‘values’ were artificially high because of primary schools cheating on sats. So, yes, it’s ‘only’ a school measure but how many on here chose their schools
or where to live based on ofsted reports? The students i feel most sorry for are the ones who are coached and cajoled through them to get good results which boost the primary’s value added, but then give them stupidly high targets in secondary so they spend their whole secondary career feeling like they aren’t good enough. The sats should be done unseen and unpractised. Like the cats tests, which are still done by some school, but these are not funded and are expensive for schools to do.

Yes. In secondary I have seen a girl sobbing because she wasn't meeting her targets and the teacher very patiently explaining how they were set from SATs and were fairly meaningless to try and comfort her that she was doing her best and that is good enough.

Joyunlimited · 17/05/2025 08:09

KellySeveride · 17/05/2025 07:56

I’m not going to tell you to report or not report. However the headteacher at my kids junior school was sacked just after my eldest child started there for falsifying SATS results. She was otherwise a good headteacher and probably never worked in a school again.

Morally wrong, but SATS are not important to the child,only an indicator of school performance so think carefully about the life you will ruin and the reasons why before you do anything.

You can teach your own kids what she did wasn’t the norm and why it may be wrong without turning a world upside down.

"May be" wrong? How can cheating in a public examination (in a way specifically prohibited in the administration guidance) not be wrong?

Rabhhhd · 17/05/2025 08:09

This happened back in 2012 at my DS's school. The school took the less academic kids into a separate room and just told them the answers. It's done to make the school look better.

I remember googling about this back then and it's honestly really common and I don't think Ofsted actually care.

Coffeeteasugar · 17/05/2025 08:07

KIlliePieMyOhMy · 16/05/2025 21:31

Sorry SATS are used as predictions for GCSEs that take place 5 years later.
That's crazy, if true.

we have to use Baseline tests taken when a child is 4 or 5 to decide whether a child is making expected progress throughout primary. It’s crazy!

noblegiraffe · 17/05/2025 08:07

Progress 8 doesn't measure pupils against target grades. Pupils may be assigned computer generated target grades from KS2 SATs results but they are nothing to do with how Progress 8 is calculated.

Progress 8 is measured after GCSE results are in and compares how students actually did in their GCSEs compared to other students who got the same score in their SATs. Progress 8 is a measure after the event, not a prediction before it and depends on how that cohort did in their GCSEs.

Joyunlimited · 17/05/2025 08:05

MyLimeGuide · 17/05/2025 06:27

I doubt a few questions hinted are going to make much difference, maybe he was being kind? Is your child known to be intelligent and he felt sorry for him for making too many obvious mistakes? Maybe he's just a really kind man!! Don't be a dick and report him.

"Being kind"? Involving a child in cheating in a public examination, and teaching them that’s an acceptable thing to do, is "being kind"? Blimey.

Justmovehousethen · 17/05/2025 08:04

GPBlues · 17/05/2025 07:56

We have the same issue with large changes in school demographic between and in-years so it’s not a ‘fair’ representation.

So completely understand your point, and I’m not arguing for SATs but you can also say that not all schools have the same level of transience.

Absolutely.

I just think that SATS are a complete and utter waste of time and the angst that some parents go through and put onto their children is ridiculous.

No one asks at a job interview how you did in your SATS.

Secondary schools move you around, do their own tests, find your place in your year group, not because of SATS.

The SATS are not a clear indicator of a school, when they aren’t a school that just has a September intake with no starters or influx of starters throughout a year.

So they are just not a fair representation of anything or anyone.

TeenToTwenties · 17/05/2025 08:02

Maybe people are getting confused between 'predict' and 'target'.

SATs are used for target grades against which the secondary school is measured in Progress8 on a cohort level.

Whether the secondary school choose to share those targets with the students & parents is another matter.
Schools will also predict grades for individuals based on actual progress and attainment.

AllProperTeaIsTheft · 17/05/2025 07:58

The problem with this kind of prior attainment data is that it is pretty accurate if used to predict the GCSE scores of whole cohorts of students, but not individuals. There are too many variables about an individual student, and data can be skewed by cheating headteachers or various other things.

But once measuring methods like this became a thing, they were soon used as a stick to beat teachers with, rather than to inform schools and government about more general, cohort-wide trends, and the blunt instrument data began to be believed over the actual expertise and knowledge of their classes that teachers have. In education these days, everything must be measured and tracked. As someome once said, weighing your pig every day doesn't make it fatter.

GPBlues · 17/05/2025 07:56

Justmovehousethen · 17/05/2025 07:52

Incorrect.

SATS are pointless.

SATS are not a clear indicator of how well a school performs.

Our school is a military school - sometimes 40% of the year group can be students that have only just arrived several months before. If the SATS results are low, that’s not an indication that the school is shit, which it isn’t.

We have the same issue with large changes in school demographic between and in-years so it’s not a ‘fair’ representation.

So completely understand your point, and I’m not arguing for SATs but you can also say that not all schools have the same level of transience.