School's punishment of all boys in year 6

What bizarre logic. So should we not have bothered apologising to the Windrush folk, people who were prosecuted for being gay, innocent people who've spent decades in prison for murders they had no connection with whatsoever, the postmasters and mistresses in the Horizon ordeal - on the grounds that 'there are just too many of them''?

And yes, I'm fully aware that being scapegoated and punished at school is many many degrees of seriousness below the horrendous suffering of the victims of the above scenarios - but the principle is exactly the same. If you've unjustly wronged one person, 100 people, 50,000 people, 5 million people, you apologise.

And how can those who didn't misbehave at all in the first place 'improve' their behaviour in order to 'earn back' what was already rightfully theirs?

I wouldn’t be apologising to any of the boys. Where would you start and finish? The treats could be earned by an improvement in behaviour over the week.

I think it's also important not to have him go down the identity route of 'I'm a boy so I must be bad'. That way self pity and bitterness lie.

I would talk about why collective punishments are used and why he might think they are a good or a bad idea. Not that I am a fan personally, but it's important to understand this stuff and at his age he should be capable of some decent thought around it.

Has happened to my DC numerous times. The fact is teachers know he is not one of the guilty party. They will know who is. So try and put it down to a life lesson. Sometimes life is not fair.

I wouldn’t be apologising to any of the boys. Where would you start and finish? The treats could be earned by an improvement in behaviour over the week.

Wow, thanks everyone for all the replies, this has turned into an interesting discussion.

I won't have any more info until Monday at the earliest but will update when I do.

I will just summarise as there were a few queries coming up over again.

I did not confront anyone, I was at reception, while my son was collecting his stuff from the classroom at the end of the day. I asked if either the head of year or deputy head were around for a quick chat. One of them had gone home, the other was in a meeting and the TA was walking past at this point and she approached me and asked if she could help. I asked if she knew anything about what had happened today and she told me, I said thanks, that's good to know, she then said my son hadn't been involved in any bad behaviour. My son came back and we said goodbye.

All I know about what the bad behaviour was, from my son and TA, is that some boys have been mean to girls and the example was around not letting girls join in with football. My son doesn't play football. He spends his time in another part of the playground and often plays with a mix of girls and boys.

All I know about the 'punishment' is that the boys and girls were split up, and told this was because the boys had been mean to the girls, and they did different activities all day. And the boys had a lesson on respect. My son also says that at the end of the day the girls had sweets and were finishing off ice creams in the classroom and the boys hadn't been given anything.

I do talk to my son about feminism and women's rights and explain to him that still even in this country women are often treated unfairly and in some countries girls are not even allowed to go to school. I do try to raise him to have respect for everyone and he does appear to be inclusive and I've not ever seen him do or say anything sexist or racist.

He doesn't have a phone, but a lot of the other children in his year do.

The teachers who were involved in this were all male, there's actually a lot of male teachers at my son's school and I think that's great, there's great female teachers there too, and I have generally thought this school is fantastic and my son has loved it there.

I will update when I have any more information...

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Those teachers need a lesson themselves by the sound of it.

Part of resilience is speaking up re unfairness and wrong behaviour. The school is in the wrong.

This thread just shows the problems we have with kids today.

Get over it, it's not that deep. Teach your child to take it on the chin and move on.

As I have said before, we need to teach resilience and stop fussing about every thing that happens and running to schools to complain.
It's ridiculous and we are all going to rue the day we pandered to a generation of children - in fact, I think we already are!

And you ou clearly have no idea what SATS are like. It’s all that is talked about and focused on throughout much of year6 and makes learning dull. It’s not for the kids.

This thread just shows the problems we have with kids today.

Get over it, it's not that deep. Teach your child to take it on the chin and move on.

As I have said before, we need to teach resilience and stop fussing about every thing that happens and running to schools to complain.
It's ridiculous and we are all going to rue the day we pandered to a generation of children - in fact, I think we already are!

This thread just shows the problems we have with kids today.

Get over it, it's not that deep. Teach your child to take it on the chin and move on.

As I have said before, we need to teach resilience and stop fussing about every thing that happens and running to schools to complain.
It's ridiculous and we are all going to rue the day we pandered to a generation of children - in fact, I think we already are!

Don’t be ridiculous. The teachers have probably put up with two and a half terms of back chatting and poor behaviour. Some cohorts are just difficult.

With that reaction from the teachers, I would actually take this higher.

It's bad enough punishing wholly innocent children, but then to threaten them with worse punishment for speaking up about it is reprehensible - I would say abusive, even.

With that reaction from the teachers, I would actually take this higher.

It's bad enough punishing wholly innocent children, but then to threaten them with worse punishment for speaking up about it is reprehensible - I would say abusive, even.

I wouldn’t be apologising to any of the boys. Where would you start and finish? The treats could be earned by an improvement in behaviour over the week.

I wouldn’t be apologising to any of the boys. Where would you start and finish? The treats could be earned by an improvement in behaviour over the week.

Oh, also some people have queried why the 'good' boys didn't talk to the teachers and say this was unfair.

My son says some boys did question it, and were told to stop complaining and that if they carried on answering back then they'd miss break for a month

Not just a fresh start though
The innocent boys should get an apology from the staff who discriminated against them
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Those activities and treats !

Yes they clearly grow had what they wanted from them with the tests then couldn’t be arsed. I’d be going to head and then governors with school behaviour and discipline policy in hand if what the boys who weren’t involved hadn’t had what they missed reinstated

🤣. Sounds like the Y6 teachers have had enough. Y6 pupils at this stage in the year have checked out of primary school in many cases. I think was very unfair to withdraw the treats from anyone. Fresh start on Monday.

🤣. Sounds like the Y6 teachers have had enough. Y6 pupils at this stage in the year have checked out of primary school in many cases. I think was very unfair to withdraw the treats from anyone. Fresh start on Monday.