School's punishment of all boys in year 6

It was all the boys in year 6, there's around 100 of them

^^ OP says 100 - it's a year group in a presumably large primary.

They said that yesterday - you can see if you have the OP see all link.

I agree though the OP does need to go back to the school and ask some more questions.

And yet the parents have never once been told their sons are being persistently sexist in school, and that they have been doing so over a long period of time? 😂This is truly top notch fan fiction. Would 100 pc read this dystopian fiction novel.

At least I hope it is fiction, because if the teachers have just been clocking off and going home instead of implementing sanctions the same day, and calling parents, on DAY ONE that sexism happened, then not only have they failed to teach the boys proper behaviour then they've failed the girls too.

It has happened at school for my DC. Teachers are struggling with behaviour of some children and with hindsight no you don’t punish the whole class but sometimes they do. Kids need to be taught to be resilient sometimes

100 boys? Where are you getting that from? I haven’t read all the threads yet. But are there 100 boys in the class?

I don’t think collective punishment should be used at all. I don’t think it’s fair that if a few of the boys have misbehaved and said sexiest comments then all of the boys should be punished. No I don’t agree with that. And I’m the same case if something happened and all the girls were punished. However, we don’t know what happened so we only really speculate until Op finds out from the school. But I do think if someone misbehaves, doesn’t matter what sex then yes they should be punished and doesn’t matter if they have just completed SATS. No excuses.

Sure sure.

You haven't cut anything off you are just ignoring it.
Posters other than you are still pointing that its not all of the boys.

And you are unable to argue against weaponised crying because it goes against your narrative.

Not willing to entertain is not the same as unable. I already cut off not all men nonsense because it’s not an argument that deserves any air time. Girls and their waterworks is another.

My boys have had their SATs this week. They were fine during but the post SATs crash has been incredible. The stress of exams + already starting with early puberty + one giant milestone towards the end of primary school. Completely the wrong week for a large scale punishment. OP im so sorry for your son.

Young boys are incredibly vulnerable to the likes of Farage and Tate telling them that white males are now the worst treated. Great work from the school in proving that. We cannot allow discrimination by sex against either boys or girls. I'd feel so let down and would be wanting to know how they planned to fix it before I escalated it. Punishing all of one demographic group is not OK.

Their school has had a bullying problem so significant the police got involved (girls WhatsApp group). The police came and spoke to the whole year but only those involved got punished.

I don't believe for a minute that 100 boys have all behaved badly.
The schools have handled this terribly. They are simply reiterating the difference between boys and girls.
You are a boy so you behaved badly so you can't have then post SATs treat.
It's bad for both the girls and the boys to have this message

So you are unable to put forward a discussion point against it.

that's is all you have to say.

It’s absolutely not the sort of comment that’s worth arguing against. It was a massive own goal by you.

This just seems to get worse and worse.
I feel very sorry for OP's son and for the other boys who must have been very confused. And not being able to challenge the decision.

PPs have said you should challenge his point about being punished because he is a boy. I disagree because that is the message they have been given and it is exactly what has happened. This punishment is divisive and will do nothing to make the boys behave better. And just feeds into the arguments of the likes of Andrew Tate.

and yet you don't have a argument against the point.

🙄

And yet you are happy with the misandry of all boys are bad.

Nobody has said that he's a saint or perfect; just that he should not have been punished for something wrong that he did not do.

If that's your attitude, why don't we just do away with actual courts completely and just have one single judge pressing a button online that says 'guilty' or 'not guilty', depending on whether he or she 'reckons they might have done it' after seeing a photo of the accused?

Or, if we wanted to keep the court system for traditional show purposes only, we could go through all the motions but just make it so that everybody tried on Monday to Wednesday is automatically found guilty and all those whose cases come up on a Thursday or Friday are told they're free to go?

Your logic is truly bizarre.

I mean some groups of students are difficult no matter what age or sex they are. I said I wouldn’t have given out any punishments. Any sorting out of issues was for another day.

My DS is coming to the end of his second year at secondary school. He hasn't experienced anything like this, and neither have his friends; but if he did, you have my assurance that I would not shrug it off as 'normal' and would strenuously challenge it.

Just because abuse of children is sadly not rare, that doesn't make it in any way acceptable. I'm amazed that I just had to type that last sentence in a discussion on a parenting website.

I hope you’re not a teacher @derxa as you’ve seen a lot of y6 classes.
Your attitude that ‘some cohorts are just difficult’ in the context of this thread suggests you treat all boys as if they are the same.
That’s sexist.

How can a teacher be any good at all if they are sexist and assume all cohorts are the same? !

Which the teachers should have sorted out-not lazily punished the entire lot some of whom were even on the receiving end of the behaviour being punished and didn’t even play where it happened. Our space for football is small, the majority of boys don’t play football. If we collectively punished an entire year group of boys for behaviour whilst playing football most would be innocent.

Have you ever taught a Y6 class. I’ve never seen one which is silent and subservient. Nor would I want to

I think it’s quite obvious where you are coming from when you make mocking comments like
‘OPs saintly son’

Yes

Fair enough if you personally believe that children should be seen and not heard, and they should accept that all adults always know better than them and so just meekly take whatever treatment they're given in silence... but most of us have moved on a long way from those attitudes over the last century or so.

Are you really telling me that, if several of your immediate neighbours were the perpetrators of antisocial behaviour, the authorities would be justified in coming and punishing you too, as 'it's obviously a rough street, this one'?