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Neighbor hates my tree

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Treehugger14 · 16/05/2025 13:55

We bought our house in Autumn last year and it is our first time having a garden. Not in the UK to clarify from the start.
Soon we realized that two of the trees were falling down and organized to have them felled. Since they were on the boundary of each of our neighbors, the workmen needed to access to their gardens, so we let them know in advance.

When discussing this, the neighbour to the right asked us to remove another tree, a very tall Linden tree, as it drops leaves into his garden and the birds shit on his rasberries. We love this tree and it would also be very expensive to remove, so we said no.

In the meantime, I have gotten a bird feeder camera and love seeing the birds come every day.

Along side the fence separating our gardens, which is just a low slatted thing, we also have multiple rose bushes. They grow tall but fully within our garden. Yesterday I was at work and got a notification of a new bird on my feeder so opened the app to check it out. Only it wasn't a bird, it was the neighbour coming over the fence into my garden to trim the rose bush, casually throwing the stems over into his garden. I'm talking about several huge parts of the bush removed.

Today I saw him out in the garden, kindly asked him how his veggies were doing, and mentioned I saw him come into my garden yesterday and next time please ask. I did not mention the camera, but that i had seen it from the window. I am sure he was puzzled because he may have waited for me to leave and watch me walk down the street. The camera only shows my garden, not the neighbour's, but i don't want to alert him to its presence in case he comes in again.

He didn't apologize, and instead immediately switched the topic to ranting about our Linden tree and how he was going to sue us if a branch fell on his grandson's head and we need to remove it. I said I could pay someone to check the branches and trim it and he said no I want it gone. I said well i like the tree. "That doesn't interest me. What interests me is all the leaves i need to pick up from my garden." And I said "Well what interests me is when people trespass on my property so please dont come in my garden." He then demanded to speak to my dh, which really gets my back up because dh will not be making any decisions about the tree without my permission anyway, because im the one doing all the work in the garden.
We already removed two trees as soon as we moved in which the previous owners had clearly neglected, immediately rectifying a problem for all neighbours - but this tree is perfeclty healthy and attracting beautiful wildlife. We met the neighbour's son who actually owns the house nextdoor and exchanged numbers, so were thinking about contacting him as he might be a bit more reasonable.

I couldnt get rid of the tree now anyway, because it is against the law. But AIBU to want to keep my tree and for expecting at least an apology?

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Treesandsheepeverywhere · 18/05/2025 09:46

Ouvavuuu · 16/05/2025 18:13

That tree is more important to the planet than you are.

Speak for yourself.
We don't know how healthy the tree is, despite seemingly so.
Agree
@AngelinaFibres , I've had a healthy looking tree suddenly break in half and fall opposite a kids play area.
One of those what could have been moments.

Seems the tree is protected enough OP, but no harm letting him know about the camera as that would deter him.
Camera won't be of any use after he's damaged it as he may just get a slap on the wrist.

What I wouldn't have done though, is put a bird feeder after he's mentioned the issue with the birds, especially as it sounds like you have a big enough garden to put the bird feeders elsewhere.

Also, by involving his son, you're doing what he was doing by trying to speak to your DH.

Won't be great if the son sides with him.

lilylooleelala · 18/05/2025 07:02

I don’t suppose he’s an old German man is he? He sounds like my neighbour 😂

thinkfast · 17/05/2025 22:52

BarneyRonson · 16/05/2025 14:51

There’s no right and wrong here really, just two different points of view. Frustrating for both of you.

You don’t see the wrong in the neighbour coming into the OP’s garden and helping himself to her roses?

Cursory · 17/05/2025 22:31

AngelinaFibres · 17/05/2025 18:32

My BIL used to say things like this. He had a huge tree in his front garden in Ashford that he wouldn't deal with because ooo nature oooo the tiny birds. In a huge storm one winter it came down and went through the neighbours roof and front bedroom. They were so frightened that this would happen that they had slept downstairs. If they hadn't they would be dead. Trees in a rural environment can very often be left to grow unchecked and to fall when their time is up. Trees in an urban environment need to be managed.If a tree is too big for the space it's in it can be removed and replaced with a smaller sapling that will grow into something more appropriate for the space available. Just because something is there doesn't mean it must grow unchallenged.

And this is why people should get a reputable tree surgeon to assess their tree and advise if any work is required.

The majority of people don’t want to pay for tree work in any way, shape or form, then go ballistic when the tree falls.

Bernardo1 · 17/05/2025 22:24

His problem, not yours, which he's evidently had a long time.

So tell him to f. off, and do point out you have a camera.

ParentingRollerCoaster · 17/05/2025 21:52

Are you in Switzerland?

BlueEyedBogWitch · 17/05/2025 18:36

TheLimeQuail · 16/05/2025 17:50

Offer to rake the leaves for him and give him a protective net for his vegetables

You could batch cook for him and offer to clean his house while you’re at it.

AngelinaFibres · 17/05/2025 18:32

Ouvavuuu · 16/05/2025 18:13

That tree is more important to the planet than you are.

My BIL used to say things like this. He had a huge tree in his front garden in Ashford that he wouldn't deal with because ooo nature oooo the tiny birds. In a huge storm one winter it came down and went through the neighbours roof and front bedroom. They were so frightened that this would happen that they had slept downstairs. If they hadn't they would be dead. Trees in a rural environment can very often be left to grow unchecked and to fall when their time is up. Trees in an urban environment need to be managed.If a tree is too big for the space it's in it can be removed and replaced with a smaller sapling that will grow into something more appropriate for the space available. Just because something is there doesn't mean it must grow unchallenged.

Emmz1510 · 17/05/2025 08:37

Ask him for the stolen roses back! You have video evidence to report him to the Police if he doesn’t.
And apart from making sure branches don’t overhang his garden, you aren’t obligated to do anything else about the tree.

Treehugger14 · 17/05/2025 08:12

So the TPO comments did give me inspiration to look for similar regulations here and it turns out cutting down trees in this particular town is strictly controlled (we moved here because it was so green). This explains why there are so many huge trees everywhere.

You can only remove a tree that is creating a danger to others or others property, fruit and nut trees that are dropping food and attracting rats, or trees with a trunk diameter of less than 30 cm. And you need a permit.

This baffles me even more because he’s ranting about something we can do absolutely nothing about. There is a number on the town page that I might call for advice, as some mentioned he might try to hurt the tree as justification for its removal.

Also rules about entering pruning someone else’s garden are strict. Even if the branches are in another’s garden they have to ask you first before pruning and give you a chance to do it yourself. If you refuse they must send written proof they have requested and only after a certain time frame can they do it themselves.

Honestly think the guy is taking the piss because we are foreign and thinks we won’t look into the laws or our rights.

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spoonbillstretford · 17/05/2025 05:11

Ouvavuuu · 16/05/2025 18:13

That tree is more important to the planet than you are.

I would feel pleased that there is a lovely tree and am not an absolute planet killing idiot with plastic grass worried about the "mess" of leaves falling on it.

TooGoodToGoto · 17/05/2025 05:06

NDN is a cheeky fecker on all accounts! Keep the tree the birds and can you stop him climbing your fence to get in?

A higher fence?

commonsense61 · 16/05/2025 22:14

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Shitmonger · 16/05/2025 21:23

The second sentence of the OP says that they aren’t in the UK so TPO is irrelevant.

She could check if the country she’s in has anything similar, or if they have other regulations that may apply. Or if she shares which country people could help her look.

I think she mostly wants a rant though. OP, your neighbour is very unreasonable and also annoying. I think it’s obvious that he’s not going to apologize for butchering your roses but hopefully now that he knows he was caught he won’t do it again. What an arse.

longtompot · 16/05/2025 20:59

Linden trees have such a gorgeous scent. I also wouldn't remove one if I had one in my garden.
I would be raging if someone came into my garden and chopped of bits of my roses!
In this case with him hating your tree so much, I would probably let him know that you have a camera recording the wildlife in your garden so he knows you would see if he came in again and or tried to do something with your tree.

Mouthfulofquiz · 16/05/2025 20:28

We’ve got some large trees in our garden - we are city centre but we have all sorts of birds visiting - jays, blackbirds, pigeons, crows, plus lots of small birds, and even tawny owls at night. My neighbour is OBSESSED with the leaves that my tree is dropping. Only mine though. Not everyone else’s big trees that are also dropping leaves. Every time I see her she asks when I’m planning to cut it down. I’m not - it’s very tedious. It’s not the tree wasn’t there when she bought the house! It’s been there for over 100 years…

GoodCharl · 16/05/2025 19:51

The fact you kept your cool and said no to him, then he asked to speak to your DH, well im sorry what a prick. Like he doesnt want to talk to the little woman, a man will understand better! Er sorry mate, youve just made things worse for yourself

toomuchfaff · 16/05/2025 19:45

Imisscoffee2021 · 16/05/2025 14:51

Asking to speak to your husband shows what kind of guy he is. Well done not backing down, he's an arsehole.

he's obviously a misogynist prick who doesn't take the little ladies word for anything.

Bunnyisputbackinthebox · 16/05/2025 18:27

Our tree had a tpo on it. Neighbours over the back knew this. They hired a tree surgeon to destroy it.
Man from council came round and announced never mind it will grow back. .
Fucking spineless idiot he was...
And he had a combover....

DuckieDodgyHedgyPiggy · 16/05/2025 18:19

He's a bully. Get a TPO put on it if there isn't one already.

I've had a neighbour like this. He would argue with me. I realised the best way to deal with this was to have something rehearsed and just kept repeating it. ( "We like the linden. It's not going to be coming down".). Having leaves fall on your garden is pretty normal.

Ouvavuuu · 16/05/2025 18:13

AngelinaFibres · 16/05/2025 18:07

Maybe one day Op you will feel your tree is too large. If you've got a tpo on it to spite your neighbour you may be very sorry.
I wonder how all the tree huggers on here would feel if they were in the position of Ops neighbour. Just because a tree is in the garden doesn't mean that its always going to be a suitable size for the space. Trees grow you know. Sometimes they get too big

That tree is more important to the planet than you are.

AppleAng35 · 16/05/2025 18:13

Don’t do anything to your lovely tree. How hard is it for this twat to rake up leaves once a year? He’s being ridiculous.

Ouvavuuu · 16/05/2025 18:13

Please get a TPO on the tree, make him aware that there is one and share some info with him about what that means from a legal perspective. I would also make him aware that you have wildlife cameras in your garden so he knows that if he comes in and decides to poison it or damage it in any way, you will have evidence.

AngelinaFibres · 16/05/2025 18:07

Maybe one day Op you will feel your tree is too large. If you've got a tpo on it to spite your neighbour you may be very sorry.
I wonder how all the tree huggers on here would feel if they were in the position of Ops neighbour. Just because a tree is in the garden doesn't mean that its always going to be a suitable size for the space. Trees grow you know. Sometimes they get too big

Pickingdates · 16/05/2025 18:07

He's a bully and thinks he can get away with it because you are new.

I have heard of too many instances of hedging and trees being cut down while people are away, so get a camera up.

It is so upsetting.
My best friend came home to the entire back boundary cut down while she was on holidays.

Hard to describe it.

New neighbours perpendicular to her house moved in and just did it while they were away on holiday.
They had never met them.
No conversation whatsoever.
Batshit.
She did have cameras.
Her next door neighbour was a lovely police officer and he too had been away but came back to them suddenly gone.
He went around immediately and spoke to the contractor doing it.
The contractor had been told they had full permission from the owners.
Idiots not to have checked.

Hard to describe the upset. Our friends were just devastated by it.

They made a police complaint for criminal damage and were so lucky that their police neighbour made a supporting statement, as did the contractors who were very pissed off to have been dragged into this.

It was settled out of court, the neighbours were advised they would lose.
They paid for pleached trees across the boundary.
Sadly the upset spoiled the house for my friend and when things were resolved they sold up and moved to a house where this could never happen again.

Honestly I could give you 5 versions of this that has happened over the past 20 years.

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