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WIBU to pull DS out of school?

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GreenShoes12 · 16/05/2025 10:31

DS14, Y9, suspected ASD but no dx yet – we’re still on the waiting list. Used to manage OK in primary and even Y7, but the last year or so it’s gone massively downhill. The older the other kids get, the more obvious the gap is. They’re into phones, TikTok, dating, swearing, makeup – and DS is still into Fireman Sam, CBeebies, building things with Lego and train sets. Still plays with his teddies and talks to them. He’s just not in that teenage world at all and it shows.

He’s now refusing school most days. His attendance is shockingly low and I’m being threatened with fines. I can’t leave him home alone – he has no idea about danger, can’t work a microwave, would open the door to anyone. So every day he’s not in, I’m missing work, and work are losing patience too. I’m getting it from all angles.

He got home yesterday shaken up. Group of lads in his year – been bothering him on and off – started chanting “Fireman freak” at him and “does mummy still wipe your bum?” because he had a Fireman Sam keyring on his bag. One of them grabbed his bag and tipped all his stuff on the floor. Someone stomped on his water bottle and laughed. DS just stood there frozen. He said he wanted to run but couldn’t move. That’s happened before too – last month someone filmed him talking to himself in the playground and shared it on Snapchat. He didn’t even know until someone in another class told him people were laughing at it.

Another time he was trying to line up his pens on his desk and a kid knocked them off on purpose – teacher told him off for “being dramatic” when he got upset. They don’t get it. He’s not badly behaved, he just shuts down or lashes out when it’s too much – he’s thrown his book across the room before, or shouted suddenly. But it’s frustration and overload, not aggression. He doesn’t understand the rules like the others do. He thinks they’re all just being “mean for fun” and doesn’t really get social stuff.

He’s also been self harming for months. I only found out last week. Hid it really well – long sleeves, said he scratched himself on bushes etc. I feel like a terrible mum not spotting it sooner. School didn’t pick it up either – it only came out when another kid mentioned it and it got flagged.

He’s miserable, and I’m at breaking point too. I’m getting no help. School say without a dx there’s little they can do. CAMHS referral is in but it’s been months already and we’ve heard nothing. They’re putting it all on us to manage, but I’m drowning. DS doesn’t want to go in. He says he hates it, it makes him feel “small and stupid”.

Would I be totally unreasonable to just pull him out until we get proper support? Maybe look at online learning or something. I know it’s not ideal but I feel like leaving him in there is just making everything worse. Anyone done similar without a dx in place? I’ve got no idea what I’m doing and feel totally alone in this.

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endingintiers · 16/05/2025 10:47

the school needs to stamp down on this bullying immediately. Phones are not allowed in my kids school and if they were found to be filming and sharing other children for ridicule the perpetrators would at the very least have in school exclusions and their parents called in, alongside a stern chat with the head and the clear expectation that any future bullying would lead to more severe consequences.

If the school don’t do this then unfortunately it’s not a safe place for him. what other schools are in your area?

as he is self harming I think you should also call CAMHS and get the referral escalated

also look for special interest groups (eg train enthusiasts) that meet evenings or weekends so he can start meeting more like minded people and build his confidence again outside school.

Wishing you all the best

OneLoyalCyanGuide · 16/05/2025 10:45

It's in the school's interest to say they can do nothing. They don't have to use their minimal resources and they know eventually you'll take your child away and not be their problem. If you're not on FB join it. Join all the groups for people seeking a diagnosis/school refusal and EHCP help. You can even apply for DLA without a diagnosis which will help pay for lessons.

Bluevelvetsofa · 16/05/2025 10:43

It’s wrong for the school to say that they can do nothing without a diagnosis. There is clear evidence of need and they should have been putting support in place since he started there.

Having said that, I would apply for an EHCP and remove him from the school.

OneLoyalCyanGuide · 16/05/2025 10:41

This is also great, but more expensive, and generally more US curriculum biased. But you can a lesson or social that works around whatever his special interest is!

outschool.com

Happyinarcon · 16/05/2025 10:38

Take you kid out, the teacher is allowing him to be bullied and telling him off when he reacts. Happening a lot lately in many schools.

OneLoyalCyanGuide · 16/05/2025 10:38

This is an excellent resource for children in your son's position. Cheap with great classes. I found it slightly awkward to navigate it but once I got the hang of it, it's great. He won't be able to sign up to live classes for this term, but can for next term. And can watch the recordings untill then.

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OneLoyalCyanGuide · 16/05/2025 10:35

You do not need a diagnosis for an EHCP, apply for one now, you don't need the school to be involved. Get him out as soon as you can. Until you can do that help him to be as inconspicuous as possible. He should be able to have a Fireman Sam keychain, but he can't.. you need to explain why to him. You're not doing him favours letting him be a target.

Apothecary266 · 16/05/2025 10:35

School can absolutely put things in place without a referral. However in your sons case I would take him out. Both my children had lots of adjustments in place at school before their diagnosis but I did similar and pulled them out of school for six months before changing their schools. If it's not working for either of you, sometimes you need to regroup and look at all the options before making a decision.