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Not paying for garden work

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gardendramas5 · 16/05/2025 09:24

I’m pretty sure I’m not being unreasonable but I just want to see what other people think.

I purchased my house December last year. It was empty for at least 2 years (ex rental)

The previous owners kept the front and back garden tidy whilst it was on the market, no idea if it was them that did the work or if they paid someone. Both gardens are quite large. I started doing all of this myself when I took ownership.

Anyway, I’ve been away for the last week with family and came home on Wednesday to freshly cut grass, weeds pulled etc. I asked my neighbours if they had seen anyone but they were at work. It turns out that the previous owners hired a company to do the work and hadn’t notified them that they’d sold the house last year. I only found this out yesterday as the gardener turned up with the invoice. I explained I wasn’t aware of this arrangement and that he would have to invoice the previous owners for the work (I was polite and apologised for the inconvenience but made it clear I hadn’t asked for this work to be done and wasn’t prepared to pay for it either)

He knocked on again this morning and explained that he’d spoken to them yesterday and that they agreed to pay half (because it was their error) but that I should pay the rest because I’m the one benefiting from the work. I told him no sorry I’m not paying and he needs to take it up with them.

I do feel bad for the gardener, but it’s their fault. I didn't ask for this. They were awkward during the conveyancing process too so this doesn’t surprise me. AIBU?

OP posts:
Dangermoo · 16/05/2025 17:16

SwingTheMonkey · 16/05/2025 17:12

If they did refuse to pay, it still wouldn’t be op’s problem. She isn’t lucky because they’ve offered half because even if they hadn’t, she still wouldn’t be liable to pay a penny.

Well she wasn't a party to the contract and no, she's not liable. However, I would look at it from the view that I've got a nice tidy garden which saves me the hassle. I would then request him not to come again. For me, not paying would be petty. Of course the Gardner could just settle for half of the bill from previous owners.

RunningJo · 16/05/2025 17:14

Sorry but some of the replies to this are utterly batshit. 🤣
To suggest the OP pay anything towards a gardener she neither asked for, knew about, or arranged is madness. 🤣

SwingTheMonkey · 16/05/2025 17:12

Dangermoo · 16/05/2025 17:04

As far as they are concerned, their contact has ended. That is the reason I'm saying its fortunate they are offering to pay half. The legal technicalities aren't going to be considered by them. They will just think oh well shit happens. I wouldn't be refusing to pay something that's hardly going to be a huge amount but that's me, clearly not you.

If they did refuse to pay, it still wouldn’t be op’s problem. She isn’t lucky because they’ve offered half because even if they hadn’t, she still wouldn’t be liable to pay a penny.

Thisisittheapocalypse · 16/05/2025 17:11

zingally · 16/05/2025 16:42

I think you should pay half tbh. It seems very mean not to, and it's not the gardeners fault.

I remember not long after I moved in when I am now, I came home one evening to a note through the door telling me my windows had been washed! He'd had an arrangement with the previous owner, and she'd not told him. It honestly never occurred to me not to pay him. How was he to know?
I just text him on the number he left and explained.

No, it doesn't seem 'mean' not to pay for something you didn't expect, didn't ask for, and didn't want!

CopperWhite · 16/05/2025 17:10

I wouldn’t pay and I would think very badly of the gardener for coming round and expecting me to after he knew the situation.

Once he knew that the OP wasn’t someone he has a contract with, he had no business asking her for payment at all. He should have told the previous owners that his contract was with them so it’s their responsibility to pay.

It is crazy to expect OP to pay for something she didn’t need, want or ask for.

CautiousLurker01 · 16/05/2025 17:08

Legally you are not obliged in any way to pay his invoice. The gardener’s contract is with the previous owners. I know of very few tradesmen who wouldn’t send a reminder message and confirm/agree a time of visit etc, so on some level he was himself at fault as it is perfectly foreseeable that people move/die etc. Technically he has trespassed so really he needs to accept that you owe him nothing.

And yes, the previous owners should have cancelled, but probably would also have anticipated a check in/confirmation email at which point they could cancel him.

This is not your issue - you didn’t want or need his services, so why should you be obliged to pay for them.

It’s a shame, but he will have to take it up with the previous owners and if they will not pay in full, he should notify them that he will be going through the small claims court for the full amount.

Dangermoo · 16/05/2025 17:04

SwingTheMonkey · 16/05/2025 16:32

You clearly don’t know how contracts work. You cannot simply end a contract without telling the other party. If you haven’t communicated with the other party, the contract is still in effect. If the party included in the contract refused to pay, the gardener would have to take them to court. Absolutely nothing to do with op, who isn’t ‘lucky’ to be paying half for a job she didn’t ask to be done.

As far as they are concerned, their contact has ended. That is the reason I'm saying its fortunate they are offering to pay half. The legal technicalities aren't going to be considered by them. They will just think oh well shit happens. I wouldn't be refusing to pay something that's hardly going to be a huge amount but that's me, clearly not you.

UnhappyHobbit · 16/05/2025 16:59

I believe that you shouldn’t pay, the previous owners are effectively billing you for their mistake. I understand that you may have benefitted but did you really benefit from someone turning up and trespassing and working on your garden? No. stick to your guns here. You can’t be responsible for a bill you didn’t agree to.

johnd2 · 16/05/2025 16:59

Half is a bit random, personally I'd say work out roughly what coming back to a nice garden with weeds out is worth to you and pay that much.
Maybe 20 quid would do it I would have thought.
Then you're being as reasonable as possible without paying for someone else's mistake.

SwingTheMonkey · 16/05/2025 16:55

zingally · 16/05/2025 16:49

But she's the one with the nice tidy garden...? Obviously.

She didn’t want it though? She makes her own garden nice and tidy.

zingally · 16/05/2025 16:49

SwingTheMonkey · 16/05/2025 16:44

Why is it mean because it’s not the gardeners fault but it’s not mean that op has to pay - it’s not her fault either?

But she's the one with the nice tidy garden...? Obviously.

SwingTheMonkey · 16/05/2025 16:44

zingally · 16/05/2025 16:42

I think you should pay half tbh. It seems very mean not to, and it's not the gardeners fault.

I remember not long after I moved in when I am now, I came home one evening to a note through the door telling me my windows had been washed! He'd had an arrangement with the previous owner, and she'd not told him. It honestly never occurred to me not to pay him. How was he to know?
I just text him on the number he left and explained.

Why is it mean because it’s not the gardeners fault but it’s not mean that op has to pay - it’s not her fault either?

spirit20 · 16/05/2025 16:42

OP are you sure this isn't a scam of some sort who prey on people who've just moved into property..?

It seems unusual that a gardening company would show up and do work on a garden without confirming it with someone, or even sending a reminder etc. Surely a real company would have sent a reminder to the person they'd made a contract with..

zingally · 16/05/2025 16:42

I think you should pay half tbh. It seems very mean not to, and it's not the gardeners fault.

I remember not long after I moved in when I am now, I came home one evening to a note through the door telling me my windows had been washed! He'd had an arrangement with the previous owner, and she'd not told him. It honestly never occurred to me not to pay him. How was he to know?
I just text him on the number he left and explained.

spirit20 · 16/05/2025 16:42

OP are you sure this isn't a scam of some sort who prey on people who've just moved into property..?

It seems unusual that a gardening company would show up and do work on a garden without confirming it with someone, or even sending a reminder etc. Surely a real company would have sent a reminder to the person they'd made a contract with..

spirit20 · 16/05/2025 16:42

OP are you sure this isn't a scam of some sort who prey on people who've just moved into property..?

It seems unusual that a gardening company would show up and do work on a garden without confirming it with someone, or even sending a reminder etc. Surely a real company would have sent a reminder to the person they'd made a contract with..

SwingTheMonkey · 16/05/2025 16:41

Thisisittheapocalypse · 16/05/2025 16:37

By some posters' standards, anyone should be able to rock up at anyone's house and do a job (mow the lawn, wash the windows, paint the house) and then demand payment because the homeowner 'benefited' from their hard work, even though said homeowner hadn't requested or budgeted for the outlay.

Nope.

Rather like the old folk who have some unscrupulous person carry out work in their garden without permission and then forcibly drive them to the cash machine to pay for it. I suppose lots of these posters think the old person should pay, because they’ve had work done.

Thisisittheapocalypse · 16/05/2025 16:38

Dangermoo · 16/05/2025 16:27

I know perfectly well how contacts work. How can a house give consideration to form a contact? The previous home owners ended the contract but didn't tell the gardener. My point about OP being lucky is that they could have refused to pay. They are correct in that she has benefitted from the service. It's unfair that the OP didn't enter into a contract.

Are you having a laugh? 'Unfair' that OP didn't enter into a contract?

OP is not interested in hiring a gardener and never has been. OP is under zero obligation to enter into a contract with anyone for services she doesn't want!

AthWat · 16/05/2025 16:38

Cloudyvibes · 16/05/2025 16:35

How much is he charging?

Obviously enough that he thinks it's important enough to chase round hassling the OP about half of instead of writing off, so obviously enough for the OP by the same token to not want to pay for work she didn't want done.
Unless we are assuming people who post here are always wealthier than mere gardeners, of course, as many posters (not yourself) seem to be doing.

Thisisittheapocalypse · 16/05/2025 16:37

By some posters' standards, anyone should be able to rock up at anyone's house and do a job (mow the lawn, wash the windows, paint the house) and then demand payment because the homeowner 'benefited' from their hard work, even though said homeowner hadn't requested or budgeted for the outlay.

Nope.

Cloudyvibes · 16/05/2025 16:35

How much is he charging?

AthWat · 16/05/2025 16:34

RunningJo · 16/05/2025 16:30

Mistake can happen, but the contract is between the previous owner and the gardener, not the property itself and the gardener.
They haven’t compromised in paying half, they should be paying in full. Doesn’t matter that they didn’t benefit (from something that they didn’t cancel). No idea why they thought paying half was acceptable, the only way I’d do that is as a gesture of goodwill if the gardener was somehow to blame too.
If I was the previous owner I’d be very apologetic to the gardener & pay him in full, and be thankful he didn’t prune or cut back a shrub that the OP didn’t want touching.

"the only way I’d do that is as a gesture of goodwill if the gardener was somehow to blame too."

I mean for all we know they did say that, not "get the other half from the OP" but "you should have called us first, we're only paying half and the other half is down to you". But that's for them and the gardener to argue in court.

SwingTheMonkey · 16/05/2025 16:32

Dangermoo · 16/05/2025 16:27

I know perfectly well how contacts work. How can a house give consideration to form a contact? The previous home owners ended the contract but didn't tell the gardener. My point about OP being lucky is that they could have refused to pay. They are correct in that she has benefitted from the service. It's unfair that the OP didn't enter into a contract.

You clearly don’t know how contracts work. You cannot simply end a contract without telling the other party. If you haven’t communicated with the other party, the contract is still in effect. If the party included in the contract refused to pay, the gardener would have to take them to court. Absolutely nothing to do with op, who isn’t ‘lucky’ to be paying half for a job she didn’t ask to be done.

AthWat · 16/05/2025 16:32

Alwayswonderedwhy · 16/05/2025 16:22

I can't believe he just turned up after all this time without contacting the previous owners. How would he know they even wanted him back?

I it was me and I was happy with the work and the cost was reasonable I'd probably pay but you definitely shouldn't feel any obligation to.

The house had been empty a couple of years previously. They had probably done this the year before, disappeared over winter and come back in May.

But yes, best practice, he should have checked.

RunningJo · 16/05/2025 16:30

Dangermoo · 16/05/2025 16:13

Mistakes happen when you move house. You may inevitably forget to notify somebody/cancel everything. They no longer are responsible for the property, so are well within their rights to say hard luck. Is that the right thjng to do? No, so they have compromised with paying half for a service they havent benefitted from. So yes, the OP is lucky.

Mistake can happen, but the contract is between the previous owner and the gardener, not the property itself and the gardener.
They haven’t compromised in paying half, they should be paying in full. Doesn’t matter that they didn’t benefit (from something that they didn’t cancel). No idea why they thought paying half was acceptable, the only way I’d do that is as a gesture of goodwill if the gardener was somehow to blame too.
If I was the previous owner I’d be very apologetic to the gardener & pay him in full, and be thankful he didn’t prune or cut back a shrub that the OP didn’t want touching.