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Not paying for garden work

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gardendramas5 · 16/05/2025 09:24

I’m pretty sure I’m not being unreasonable but I just want to see what other people think.

I purchased my house December last year. It was empty for at least 2 years (ex rental)

The previous owners kept the front and back garden tidy whilst it was on the market, no idea if it was them that did the work or if they paid someone. Both gardens are quite large. I started doing all of this myself when I took ownership.

Anyway, I’ve been away for the last week with family and came home on Wednesday to freshly cut grass, weeds pulled etc. I asked my neighbours if they had seen anyone but they were at work. It turns out that the previous owners hired a company to do the work and hadn’t notified them that they’d sold the house last year. I only found this out yesterday as the gardener turned up with the invoice. I explained I wasn’t aware of this arrangement and that he would have to invoice the previous owners for the work (I was polite and apologised for the inconvenience but made it clear I hadn’t asked for this work to be done and wasn’t prepared to pay for it either)

He knocked on again this morning and explained that he’d spoken to them yesterday and that they agreed to pay half (because it was their error) but that I should pay the rest because I’m the one benefiting from the work. I told him no sorry I’m not paying and he needs to take it up with them.

I do feel bad for the gardener, but it’s their fault. I didn't ask for this. They were awkward during the conveyancing process too so this doesn’t surprise me. AIBU?

OP posts:
terracelane23 · 16/05/2025 20:39

Ellephanting · 16/05/2025 13:30

I recently had a morning’s gardening done. When I look at what they actually did, it wasn’t an awful lot. It cost me £500, for a morning’s work. There were two of them so, actually a day’s work. Nonetheless, gardeners don’t come cheap these days.

I’m a gardener with my husband. For the two of us, we charge £105 for a 3 hour morning slot. We are in the North East. I think £500 is a lot! Maybe I’m out of touch with prices in other parts of the country!

Dangermoo · 16/05/2025 20:37

SwingTheMonkey · 16/05/2025 20:34

But both parties expected to pay for something they didn't ask for and shouldn’t have to pay for?

The circumstances are completely different. One might argue the OP only maybe morally obliged to pay. The OAPs are neither legally nor morally obliged.

SwingTheMonkey · 16/05/2025 20:34

Dangermoo · 16/05/2025 20:32

As far as the gardener was aware, the contract was still in place. The OP is under no obligation to pay half. It's a civil matter. The poor OAPs were swindled by conmen. It's a criminal matter.

But both parties expected to pay for something they didn't ask for and shouldn’t have to pay for?

Dangermoo · 16/05/2025 20:32

SwingTheMonkey · 16/05/2025 20:20

How is it not like for like? Both have had works carried out on their property they didn’t want, nor ask for and are expected to pay for it. Please tell me how the situations are different.

As far as the gardener was aware, the contract was still in place. The OP is under no obligation to pay half. It's a civil matter. The poor OAPs were swindled by conmen. It's a criminal matter.

MyCyanReader · 16/05/2025 20:32

gardendramas5 · 16/05/2025 09:24

I’m pretty sure I’m not being unreasonable but I just want to see what other people think.

I purchased my house December last year. It was empty for at least 2 years (ex rental)

The previous owners kept the front and back garden tidy whilst it was on the market, no idea if it was them that did the work or if they paid someone. Both gardens are quite large. I started doing all of this myself when I took ownership.

Anyway, I’ve been away for the last week with family and came home on Wednesday to freshly cut grass, weeds pulled etc. I asked my neighbours if they had seen anyone but they were at work. It turns out that the previous owners hired a company to do the work and hadn’t notified them that they’d sold the house last year. I only found this out yesterday as the gardener turned up with the invoice. I explained I wasn’t aware of this arrangement and that he would have to invoice the previous owners for the work (I was polite and apologised for the inconvenience but made it clear I hadn’t asked for this work to be done and wasn’t prepared to pay for it either)

He knocked on again this morning and explained that he’d spoken to them yesterday and that they agreed to pay half (because it was their error) but that I should pay the rest because I’m the one benefiting from the work. I told him no sorry I’m not paying and he needs to take it up with them.

I do feel bad for the gardener, but it’s their fault. I didn't ask for this. They were awkward during the conveyancing process too so this doesn’t surprise me. AIBU?

You absolutely do NOT have to pay him any money.

It's nice the previous owner has paid half but they also need to pay the other half. The gardener should be insisting they pay the full amount as they clearly have a contract.

Just politely say to the gardener that you appreciate his predicament, but you have spent a lot of money on gardening equipment to do this work yourself so did not require the service, and as he was employed by the previous owner, then he should be seeking the full amount from this person.

If you purchased in December, and it's now May, then I assume this gardener comes every 6 months?! So did he not notice the garden had been done recently?

terracelane23 · 16/05/2025 20:32

AthWat · 16/05/2025 11:42

As a gardener would you turn up for a service after presumably at least six months of no contact without speaking to anyone first?

No we wouldn’t. In our case, we messaged asking if the house had sold over Winter. It had but the sale hadn’t completed so the owner asked us to carry on with our usual fortnightly visit. They said they would tell us when the sale had completed. We did our visits and messaged after each one as we usually do. After one visit, they messaged back to say that house had new owners. They immediately apologised for not telling us and paid the bill. I agree that communication in this case has been poor, but it was the responsibility of the previous owner to inform the gardener and to pay this bill in my view.

AthWat · 16/05/2025 20:29

Dangermoo · 16/05/2025 20:25

When is the benefit going to show its face?

I fear it may be some time.

Jabberwok · 16/05/2025 20:29

As an ex professional gardener I would never just rock up and work on one of the gardens where there was a winter break. Plus it's strange that it's the middle of may and they have only just come. I would have been back on my summer only gardens at the start of April.

so no don't pay, the gardener has to chase up the old owners and if necessary take them to court. He fulfilled his part of the contract. They need to pay him as they failed to cancel.

Dangermoo · 16/05/2025 20:25

AthWat · 16/05/2025 20:19

Incidentally I'll be sending you a bill for all the work I've done on this thread explaining things to you. I know you didn't ask me to do it, or want me to, or agree to pay, but you're the one whose benefitted from it, even if you don't think you have. Just like the OP!

When is the benefit going to show its face?

AthWat · 16/05/2025 20:23

SwingTheMonkey · 16/05/2025 20:20

How is it not like for like? Both have had works carried out on their property they didn’t want, nor ask for and are expected to pay for it. Please tell me how the situations are different.

It's probably because in the case you described nobody had previously agreed a contract to do something else entirely with a man who used to own their fridge.

SwingTheMonkey · 16/05/2025 20:20

Dangermoo · 16/05/2025 20:12

You're not comparing like for like. You've certainly got a bee in your bonnet on this one.

How is it not like for like? Both have had works carried out on their property they didn’t want, nor ask for and are expected to pay for it. Please tell me how the situations are different.

AthWat · 16/05/2025 20:19

Dangermoo · 16/05/2025 19:59

You mean aside from her owning the garden for which he's provided consideration? What was that you were saying about stupid comments?

Incidentally I'll be sending you a bill for all the work I've done on this thread explaining things to you. I know you didn't ask me to do it, or want me to, or agree to pay, but you're the one whose benefitted from it, even if you don't think you have. Just like the OP!

SwingTheMonkey · 16/05/2025 20:18

Dangermoo · 16/05/2025 20:12

You're not comparing like for like. You've certainly got a bee in your bonnet on this one.

That’s the pot calling the kettle black, isn’t it?!

AthWat · 16/05/2025 20:16

Dangermoo · 16/05/2025 20:12

You're not comparing like for like. You've certainly got a bee in your bonnet on this one.

Go on, explain the difference.

This'll be good.

AthWat · 16/05/2025 20:15

Dangermoo · 16/05/2025 19:59

You mean aside from her owning the garden for which he's provided consideration? What was that you were saying about stupid comments?

More comedy! You're amazing.

Dangermoo · 16/05/2025 20:12

SwingTheMonkey · 16/05/2025 20:10

What do you think about OAPs who are forced to pay for work they’ve not agreed to by men who knock on their doors after they’ve done the work? Do you think that they should pay at least something towards the work they’ve had done, even though they didn’t want it and didn’t ask for it?

You're not comparing like for like. You've certainly got a bee in your bonnet on this one.

SwingTheMonkey · 16/05/2025 20:10

Dangermoo · 16/05/2025 19:59

You mean aside from her owning the garden for which he's provided consideration? What was that you were saying about stupid comments?

What do you think about OAPs who are forced to pay for work they’ve not agreed to by men who knock on their doors after they’ve done the work? Do you think that they should pay at least something towards the work they’ve had done, even though they didn’t want it and didn’t ask for it?

Dangermoo · 16/05/2025 19:59

AthWat · 16/05/2025 19:56

He's conning the OP either way; it's nothing to do with her.

You mean aside from her owning the garden for which he's provided consideration? What was that you were saying about stupid comments?

AthWat · 16/05/2025 19:56

TroysMammy · 16/05/2025 19:54

He could have said that but they could have paid in full and then it means he's conning the OP.

He's conning the OP either way; it's nothing to do with her.

SwingTheMonkey · 16/05/2025 19:56

SouthLondonMum22 · 16/05/2025 19:54

The gardener also needs to take some responsibility and check in with people if he hasn't been in months. This is on him too.

Totally agree.

TroysMammy · 16/05/2025 19:54

AthWat · 16/05/2025 12:07

It doesn't matter.

He could have said that but they could have paid in full and then it means he's conning the OP.

SouthLondonMum22 · 16/05/2025 19:54

SwingTheMonkey · 16/05/2025 19:42

Why should she care about the gardener? She didn’t employ him. She didn’t want, nor need his services and owes him nothing. The people who should care about him are the ones who employed him.

The gardener also needs to take some responsibility and check in with people if he hasn't been in months. This is on him too.

AthWat · 16/05/2025 19:47

Dangermoo · 16/05/2025 19:43

Yes, and you've just said it.

Your wit! Staggering!
Comedy and contract law, is there anything you're not an expert in?

Dangermoo · 16/05/2025 19:43

AthWat · 16/05/2025 19:25

After a few weeks experience of this forum it would have amazed me if there wasn't a long queue of people lining up to say the stupidest possible thing anyone could imagine.

Yes, and you've just said it.

SwingTheMonkey · 16/05/2025 19:42

Funnyduck60 · 16/05/2025 19:00

YABU. You don't care about the gardener either. You've had a bargin. Bet you get paid no matter what.

Why should she care about the gardener? She didn’t employ him. She didn’t want, nor need his services and owes him nothing. The people who should care about him are the ones who employed him.

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