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Not paying for garden work

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gardendramas5 · 16/05/2025 09:24

I’m pretty sure I’m not being unreasonable but I just want to see what other people think.

I purchased my house December last year. It was empty for at least 2 years (ex rental)

The previous owners kept the front and back garden tidy whilst it was on the market, no idea if it was them that did the work or if they paid someone. Both gardens are quite large. I started doing all of this myself when I took ownership.

Anyway, I’ve been away for the last week with family and came home on Wednesday to freshly cut grass, weeds pulled etc. I asked my neighbours if they had seen anyone but they were at work. It turns out that the previous owners hired a company to do the work and hadn’t notified them that they’d sold the house last year. I only found this out yesterday as the gardener turned up with the invoice. I explained I wasn’t aware of this arrangement and that he would have to invoice the previous owners for the work (I was polite and apologised for the inconvenience but made it clear I hadn’t asked for this work to be done and wasn’t prepared to pay for it either)

He knocked on again this morning and explained that he’d spoken to them yesterday and that they agreed to pay half (because it was their error) but that I should pay the rest because I’m the one benefiting from the work. I told him no sorry I’m not paying and he needs to take it up with them.

I do feel bad for the gardener, but it’s their fault. I didn't ask for this. They were awkward during the conveyancing process too so this doesn’t surprise me. AIBU?

OP posts:
ButterCrackers · 17/05/2025 10:35

PorkyMcChubbington · 17/05/2025 10:27

What would you pay for a solicitors letter (not cheap) when you can just do nothing at all?

Agree. You don’t need to do anything. It’s up to the gardener to get his payment from the people who hired him. If they don’t pay he can make a claim for the people who hired him to pay up.

PorkyMcChubbington · 17/05/2025 10:27

Needlenardlenoo · 17/05/2025 07:53

Why don't you have the solicitor who did the conveyancing write them a letter saying you won't be paying for anything arranged by them outwith anything arranged during the purchase, including gardening? If they are disorganised, this could easily reoccur.

What would you pay for a solicitors letter (not cheap) when you can just do nothing at all?

Debinaround · 17/05/2025 08:09

KhakiOrca · 17/05/2025 04:50

If you can afford it then pay up. If you are happy with the work, pay up.

She’s not happy with the work though, she likes and wants to do her garden herself. She has spent money on garden equipment that she probably wouldn’t have if she was planning to employ a gardener. She also says if she was planning on hiring a gardener it would be her old one so this guy who’s trying to get her to pay half wouldn’t be getting the gig regardless.

Needlenardlenoo · 17/05/2025 07:53

Why don't you have the solicitor who did the conveyancing write them a letter saying you won't be paying for anything arranged by them outwith anything arranged during the purchase, including gardening? If they are disorganised, this could easily reoccur.

Needlenardlenoo · 17/05/2025 07:26

I don't think you should pay for something you didn't book - it muddies the water.

WeWillAllGoTogether · 17/05/2025 06:20

<Idly wonders whether, if all the "poor gardener, I would pay half" posters clubbed together with a couple of quid each, there'd be enough to pay said half>

MananaPenelope · 17/05/2025 05:41

AthWat · 16/05/2025 21:02

If one might argue that the OP is morally obliged to pay, why haven't you actually come up with any halfway decent argument to show where that moral obligation comes from that isn't based on "oh, the poor gardener". The "poor gardener" might pull in three times as much money as the OP.

Not morally obliged at all. This really isn’t the OP’s problem. The gardener effectively trespassed on her property because they weren’t able to communicate with the previous owner who they had a contract with for whatever reason.

KhakiOrca · 17/05/2025 04:50

If you can afford it then pay up. If you are happy with the work, pay up.

AlpacaMittens · 17/05/2025 04:38

You are 100% NOT unreasonable! You don't need to pay anything.

"You're benefiting, so pay half" is ridiculous. Shall I go around the neighbourhood and book jobs for strangers, then claim they need to pay half because they're benefiting from the result?! Insane 🤣

Up to you if you'd LIKE to pay half out of the goodness of your heart, if you can afford it, if the price is very cheap, and if the guy did a good job. But that would be a million percent a goodwill gesture and nothing more.

RawBloomers · 17/05/2025 02:46

abracadabra1980 · 17/05/2025 00:12

Oh just pay half and sort it out from there. Things get missed and forgotten during a house move.

Sure they do. But why on earth does that mean OP should pay any of this? She should use her money to pay for the things she missed.

abracadabra1980 · 17/05/2025 00:12

Oh just pay half and sort it out from there. Things get missed and forgotten during a house move.

SouthLondonMum22 · 16/05/2025 23:53

iseethembloom · 16/05/2025 23:00

Be decent, and pay half.

The previous owners need to be decent and pay in full.

CalmTheFuckDownMargaret · 16/05/2025 23:46

The work was done to your house without your knowledge / agreement. The previous owner is totally responsible. Yes, of course you could give him something towards the cost if 1) you can afford it and 2) the work is done well and is useful, but in no way are you obliged to pay in full for a service someone else wanted and booked without you knowing a thing about it!

Floundering66 · 16/05/2025 23:42

I don’t understand any comment that says you should pay half! The previous owners booked him, agreed the price, and didn’t cancel - 100% on them! So cheeky of them to send the gardener back to you. They should have apologised, paid him in full and then approached your themselves to see if you would be happy to pay anything as a gesture of goodwill. You still would have been well within your right to say no though!

AthWat · 16/05/2025 23:30

Dangermoo · 16/05/2025 23:27

Well I will leave you to sticking pins in your doll, while you're arguing against Latin terms in contract law. That one was particularly entertaining. 👌

I didn't do that or anything like that, but you're welcome! What did you think I did? I mean I know what I did, but I'd really hesitate to make a guess at what you think I did that caused you to say that as I have seen how extraordinarily gifted you are are misinterpreting everything. I know the quote you're referring to, what did you think it meant?

Dangermoo · 16/05/2025 23:27

AthWat · 16/05/2025 23:25

Good god no, there's probably only one person in the world that I know more about the law than. It was good of you to come!

Well I will leave you to sticking pins in your doll, while you're arguing against Latin terms in contract law. That one was particularly entertaining. 👌

AthWat · 16/05/2025 23:25

Dangermoo · 16/05/2025 23:23

Dog.with.a.bone.

First year LLB is it?

Good god no, there's probably only one person in the world that I know more about the law than. It was good of you to come!

Dangermoo · 16/05/2025 23:23

AthWat · 16/05/2025 23:22

Oh no, I'm much more right than you are. Throughout this thread you've reached levels of wrongness on multiple points that most people can only dream of.
I'd forgotten about them cancelling the contract without telling the gardener before you just reminded me!

Dog.with.a.bone.

First year LLB is it?

AthWat · 16/05/2025 23:22

Dangermoo · 16/05/2025 23:19

I said the previous owners would no longer consider themselves having a contract with the gardener. Well actually no, they wouldn't even think of it to that extent. They forgot or couldn't be bothered to cancel. So yes, the gardener can pursue them in the small claims. Or he could take it all as seriously as you and go all guns blazing and hire himself a top contract lawyer. The OP can then sit it out and say I'm not party to the contract. I've argued that she might want to pay half as a compromise for the work already being done. She's made it clear she's not happy with paying it but asked if she was being unreasonable. Now wind yer neck in because you're no more right than I am.

Oh no, I'm much more right than you are. Throughout this thread you've reached levels of wrongness on multiple points that most people can only dream of.
I'd forgotten about them cancelling the contract without telling the gardener before you just reminded me!

Dangermoo · 16/05/2025 23:19

AthWat · 16/05/2025 23:00

You stand by your opinion in the face of the facts! Because you have a right to your opinion!

Do you still stand by your earlier opinion that the contract the previous owners had with the gardener passed to the OP when she bought the house?

I said the previous owners would no longer consider themselves having a contract with the gardener. Well actually no, they wouldn't even think of it to that extent. They forgot or couldn't be bothered to cancel. So yes, the gardener can pursue them in the small claims. Or he could take it all as seriously as you and go all guns blazing and hire himself a top contract lawyer. The OP can then sit it out and say I'm not party to the contract. I've argued that she might want to pay half as a compromise for the work already being done. She's made it clear she's not happy with paying it but asked if she was being unreasonable. Now wind yer neck in because you're no more right than I am.

AthWat · 16/05/2025 23:01

iseethembloom · 16/05/2025 23:00

Be decent, and pay half.

Why do you feel the OP owes it to the previous owners to "be decent" and pay half their bill?

iseethembloom · 16/05/2025 23:00

Be decent, and pay half.

AthWat · 16/05/2025 23:00

Dangermoo · 16/05/2025 22:58

I stand by my opinion. OK.

You stand by your opinion in the face of the facts! Because you have a right to your opinion!

Do you still stand by your earlier opinion that the contract the previous owners had with the gardener passed to the OP when she bought the house?

Dangermoo · 16/05/2025 22:58

AthWat · 16/05/2025 22:54

You have been told by multiple people why your opinions are based on erroneous grasp of the facts and and a complete lack of logical process.

I stand by my opinion. OK.

Motheroffive999 · 16/05/2025 22:56

How much is half ?