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Loud DC and unhappy neighbour. Would you move?

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YourMintReader · 15/05/2025 19:40

I moved in 6 weeks ago. Within a week, the neighbour had complained about noise levels from 4.30am in the morning. First with a note through the door, the second time I got a phone call from Housing Association. Quickly resolved when I explained why.

Understandable, but there’s nothing I can do. This is from loud shouting and vocal stims.

She has now complained to the Housing Association that I am letting my son play out for hours on end, screaming. And has added he screams foul language. Quickly proven otherwise by me by emailing over countless documents that mention he doesn’t speak a word.

He does scream, happy and sad screams and different times. But I am absolutely not allowing him out ‘all day’

He goes to school 8am to 4pm return.

His weekend schedule is 4/4.30am - Awake. Downstairs around 5.30am latest. We might leave the house for about 9am. Possibly 2 hours of respite carers out the house for a couple of hours with them.

He would spend about 2 or 3 hours max a day in the garden. Inside no later than 6pm.

My neighbour has also got 2 children, 12 and 15. I have never heard from them but they’re older.

It’s a really small new build development and I think I and one other house are the only housing association tenants.

Would you look to move? I would be against it but cannot see a solution if it doesn’t stop. I can’t feel so worried in my own home.

Bloody awkward as there just isn’t many houses so you can’t blend in at all

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Deadraave · 15/05/2025 20:29

YourMintReader · 15/05/2025 19:57

I also need to just add that I’ve taken in multiple parcels for her whilst she’s been out/work. And they’re always, always collected by her eldest, never her

It appears she is happy for me to take in her things (prior to the latest complaint), since I have a clear memory of her not so long ago asking the delivery guy to knock for next door! Ring door bell

I don’t really think that’s relevant. I do have real sympathy for your situation. But if those that rented the house that is attached to the house I own had a child that was screaming at 4:30 I would complain I’m afraid. That was hugely impact our life.
made there any things you could do to reduce the noise?

allthemiddlechildrenoftheworld · 15/05/2025 20:29

@YourMintReader you state on you other post that your kids sleep till after 7 in the morning yet on this post it is 4.30am?? what is it

flyoverstate · 15/05/2025 20:29

An hour of screaming between 4:30 and 5:30 is going to be extremely difficult and stressful for your neighbors.
Are there any interventions that could prevent or limit this?
I also have a lot of sympathy for you as I am sure that your life will be difficult in many ways that your neighbors can’t imagine.

UndermyShoeJoe · 15/05/2025 20:28

sprigatito · 15/05/2025 20:26

What did you want her to do, wave her magic wand and conjure a nice detached house with no neighbours? Are you for real? FYI parents of very high-needs disabled children often aren’t rolling in spare cash.

I mean most semi houses here have one double bedroom on a non attached wall and loads where once council.

Thats what op needs or to take her son downstairs.

chlodk · 15/05/2025 20:27

I think you should ask to be rehoused. The accommodation is not suitable. 4am wake up call everyday for your neighbours must be hellish, and the anxiety and distress you must feel just as bad.

Or can the upstairs be reconfigured, so that his bedroom is on the outside wall? You might get support with this.

Marble10 · 15/05/2025 20:27

With all due respect, as you are HA, is it that easy for you to just move?
In my area, you’d be seen as suitably housed therefore not able to move so soon, even if it was mutual exchange?
Are the HA aware of your son’s disabilities before moving you there?
I would be upset if I was a private owner as it is an excessive noise to put up with. Also I totally feel for you OP, as your life sounds very hard and complaints like this doesn’t make you feel any better.
How old is your son? Is there really no way of regulating him at all?

sprigatito · 15/05/2025 20:26

BeEagerEagle · 15/05/2025 20:03

If you knew your son behaved like this and it’s not a new thing, you shouldn’t have considered moving into flats or terraced housing to begin with.

if you don’t want to take in her parcels anymore you aren’t obliged to.

Edited

What did you want her to do, wave her magic wand and conjure a nice detached house with no neighbours? Are you for real? FYI parents of very high-needs disabled children often aren’t rolling in spare cash.

BeEagerEagle · 15/05/2025 20:26

YourMintReader · 15/05/2025 20:21

I didn’t say that. Not true at all. There’s no option but to ‘disturb him’ like you say. He has to be watched whenever awake

You know what I mean. You said to others that you don’t stop him and get him up if he starts screaming and leave him to carry on.

LeaveTaking · 15/05/2025 20:26

BeEagerEagle · 15/05/2025 19:57

Why can’t you keep your son quiet when he’s screaming? I’m guessing he’s autistic/neurodiverse as you say he stims. I am autistic and no way would my mum have let me get away with screaming my head off if we lived in a semi detached or flat or mid terrace. You need to get help for his behaviour or move somewhere detached with a large garden.

I don’t approve of her lying but it doesnt really matter if it’s foul language or not, he’s still making a racket. The neighbour is probably at the end of their rope.

also your so needs supervised in the garden if he’s screaming his head off at random points.

I would suggest moving.

I am really surprised you describe yourself as autistic but seem oblivious to it being a spectrum.

Not all autistic children have the understanding or control regarding the volume of their stims. It isn’t a parenting issue.

elessar · 15/05/2025 20:25

YourMintReader · 15/05/2025 19:53

Yes, I really do get it but I don’t know what else I can do

It is attached to hers, they’re semi detached as a 2 and other direct neighbour is in front with a big detached

His room is the biggest and he has to have that one for his stuff. I don’t want him to frolic in mine sadly as he will likely break things and it’s my own space

We also have a third bedroom used for overnight respite care but it’s a box room and not really suitable for him to spend time in

I think her master bedroom is next to our bathroom and her own room opposite his maybe

In all honesty it sounds like you could do a bit more then, particularly if her bedroom is adjoining his and he starts making noise at 4.30.

if you can’t/won’t swap rooms with him then you need to get him downstairs at 4.30, not waiting until 5.30. Or he needs to come into your room and you store your breakable items somewhere else.

I think you should also look into trying to get some sound proofing against the adjoining walls.

you can’t help your situation, but I think you have a responsibility to do everything in your power to minimise the impact on your neighbour.

YourMintReader · 15/05/2025 20:24

WHM0101 · 15/05/2025 20:21

But is he on any medication at all? There are multiple solutions to at least make someone sleep through the night. I can't imagine how you can survive this.

Edited

Yes. He is on quite a list! After many years, I finally get him to sleep until around 4.30am. He use to get up at 2/3am, a lot of trail and error means I’ve got him to 4.30

Like most desperate carers, I’ve tried most things. There is no magic wand

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missymousey · 15/05/2025 20:24

Sounds like you're doing an amazing job in a difficult situation OP. Don't move if you like the house and area. Your boy will change as he grows and maybe he will become more settled in time. I get that she's not happy but you wouldn't have chosen to be in this situation either. At least she's getting more sleep than you are!

Hrunf · 15/05/2025 20:22

It sounds like the house isn't suitable for you. You need a house where the biggest bedroom is not adjoining a neighbour. This should surely be possible to find.

WHM0101 · 15/05/2025 20:21

YourMintReader · 15/05/2025 20:12

The extreme hyperactivity and running/bouncing, shouting, thumping, will probably make a lot more noise though, in addition to what I’ve said up thread

But is he on any medication at all? There are multiple solutions to at least make someone sleep through the night. I can't imagine how you can survive this.

FunnySam · 15/05/2025 20:21

This is so difficult, I work as a first responder so have to sleep random times and if I had a child screaming through a wall from 04:30-8:30 I'd pull my hair out, probably be reduced to tears myself.
I do sympathise with her but you've already said you can't stop the extent of the noise, so unless you buy a remote house (I know you said it's a quiet ideal location but it probably was for the buyer next door too...) sorry to be negative :(

YourMintReader · 15/05/2025 20:21

BeEagerEagle · 15/05/2025 20:17

OP says she does not disturb him when he starts at 4,30 and leaves him to scream for an hour.

I didn’t say that. Not true at all. There’s no option but to ‘disturb him’ like you say. He has to be watched whenever awake

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MissJeanBrodiesmother · 15/05/2025 20:21

BeEagerEagle
It is not always possible to stop a severely autistic child with associated learning difficulties to be quiet. My ds used to get up at 4, run around, make loud squeals etc and there was no way of preventing it. Don't move op. However I would look at what you can do as regards sound proofing. Is it a housing association? If so ask them for help.

Growsomeballswoman · 15/05/2025 20:20

Could you speak to an OT/social services and see if a dfg could be made available for any soundproofing? The HA won’t do this as they won’t have a budget to.

londongirl12 · 15/05/2025 20:19

Reversetail · 15/05/2025 20:06

Please don’t move because of this horrible selfish women, sounds like you’ve got a great spot for your family. I completely get that you are doing everything you can and that you can’t just ask your son to be quiet. Maybe housing association can help with some sound proofing. Maybe she’ll move!

So are you saying that if you would the neighbour, you would happily be woken up at 0430 every single day?

BeEagerEagle · 15/05/2025 20:17

Gemmawemma9 · 15/05/2025 20:15

No actually, you’re implying she’s not even trying to keep him quiet. Honestly youve nothing kind or helpful to say, why don’t you just go away.

OP says she does not disturb him when he starts at 4,30 and leaves him to scream for an hour.

UndermyShoeJoe · 15/05/2025 20:17

I mean I’m sorry but if your child was waking me at 4:30am every day and you left them to make that noise I’d be on at the council every bloody day too.

You either take them somewhere not likely to affect a bedroom or have his bedroom on a non joining wall. Thats the compromise to being good neighbours not robbing someone of sleep at 4:30am every and leaving him for an hour till you decide to take him down.

BeEagerEagle · 15/05/2025 20:17

YourMintReader · 15/05/2025 20:13

And I have every right not to have a chunk taken out of my arm at 4.30am because I am so sleep deprived, it is ten times more difficult to bring him into that area

With all due respect your son’s special needs are not your neighbours problem, and if her and her kids are struggling to sleep every single day due to your son waking them up every morning at 4:30am then reporting may be the last resort for them.

BrightLightTonight · 15/05/2025 20:16

I am guessing that he is being woken up by the dawn sun - can you totally blackout his room so he sleeps a lot later?

londongirl12 · 15/05/2025 20:16

Can you spend the money on putting a bathroom in to soundproof his room? I have a ND child so I sympathise, however if I was woken up at 0430 every day I would be at my wits end.

YourMintReader · 15/05/2025 20:15

TheCurious0range · 15/05/2025 20:14

Would the housing association help with soundproofing given his needs? I understand he can't help it but your neighbours being woken at 4am everyday to shouting, happy or not, isn't ok.
I also think you need to move him to a bedroom that is the opposite side of the house to the neighbour even if it's not the ideal room, there's got to be some compromise

I can’t. As I say, his stuff is what’s in that room and will only fit in that room - Main thing being a specialist bed that costs 7k a pop and wouldn’t fit properly in another room

The sound proofing might be an idea. I am going to have a chat with my Occupational Therapist on Monday about raising that

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