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To think most people will be mostly single in future

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ladalover · 14/05/2025 11:59

I was reading some articles about more women choosing to be, and men remaining single. It struck me that with financial needs and procreation decoupled from traditional longterm relationships, the future could see people essentially choosing a single life, having children through science or an arranged interaction and agreement, and that possibly singlehood for all or most of adult life will become normal.

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SandyY2K · 14/05/2025 18:04

I think most people will always want to be in a relationship.

They may not want marriage, but they do want to have an intimate relationship with someone and have that companionship.

They also want to have other experiences with friends. To travel, to have fun and be active.

SugarPlumpFairyCakes · 14/05/2025 18:02

GivingUpFinally · 14/05/2025 15:18

Yabu, humans are pack animals essentially and do not thrive well in isolation.

And now here's where I get beat with sticks... but to summarise very briefly;

I personally feel that there is a correlation between increased singledom and the rise in poor mental health outcomes.

I am no way suggesting ypu can only be happy in a relationship by the way. Its a tad deeper than that.

(Running for cover...)

Friendships can't help with this? Or only romantic connections?

snughugs · 14/05/2025 18:02

Yes and I predict many solo Mums like myself. I afford it as I’ve had a decent career and inheritance. My teenage son and myself are very happy. He’ll be off to university September I don’t intend to risk his inheritance on the type of men I’ve met. I might date again but they’d have to worship me and be rich and keep their own house.

Copernicus321 · 14/05/2025 18:00

No, I don't think most people will be single in the future. It doesn't matter what your sexual bias is, people generally like to pair up, it's human nature. Sure, some people prefer to be single and independent but it's not what most people want to do is what I'm saying.

While I'm about it, from reading many of the threads on MN you would think that almost everyone is unhappy with their marriage, all men are hopeless and do nothing to help out and every woman is reaching for the door or has already done so. There is a narrative that it's not worthwhile a woman looking for a life partner because its tantamount to a lifetime of servitude. All I can say is that in my experience its not like that. I fully appreciate that not all marriages succeed and we sometimes suffer terrible physical and emotional abuse from our partners in the process of a relationship breakdown. I'm aware of the statistic that 1/3 of marriages end in divorce but in 32 couples in my friendship circle and family stretching back over a period of 30 years only 1 of the couples have divorced. Unexpected widowhood has affected more of the couples in my friendship circle than divorce. I don't know the reason for the low incidence of divorce, perhaps for many of them, money appears not to be a problem they have to deal with. All I'm saying is that more marriages succeed than fail, lots of couples are happy, more men are emotionally mature and supportive than not.

oldbooksmell · 14/05/2025 18:00

In places like the Uk, Northern Europe possibly, in other cultures I’d say not.

IMustDoMoreExercise · 14/05/2025 18:00

CreationNat1on · 14/05/2025 15:07

I accidentally supported YABU, however I really do love the era of singledom.

You can change your vote.

JHound · 14/05/2025 18:00

Isn’t this happening already? I think it is also a driver behind falling birth rates in many places.

Societal changes means for many now relationships are optional which means they date differently leading to more being single. Single is my default (much to my family’s chagrin) and I know a fair few women (and some men) like me. Especially among my group of friends and acquaintances.

Youstolemygoddamnhouse · 14/05/2025 17:59

Gettingbysomehow · 14/05/2025 17:17

I won't get married again for sure. I have my cats and my adult son who doesn't live too far away. My husbands were about as good as a chocolate fireguard.
A good few of my friends had children on their own by sperms donor one said she couldn't find anyone fit to be the father of her child.
It's sad really given the expectations we had of romance when we were young.

Can I ask how old you are? Just I agree with you when you said about the expectations we had about romance when we were young. Tbf I think we (women) have been lied to about romance from the start. I’m mid 30s and even from an early age looking back now I see how we were manipulated into thinking finding your prince was the main thing you needed to achieve in life. It did get better in the late 90s/00s.

TheHerboriste · 14/05/2025 17:55

Emanresuunknown · 14/05/2025 17:39

I read these posts and feel so sad that so many people now don't seem to see any joy and happiness in children, family and marriage.

I have a decent career but it's my children and family that are the greatest light of my life and I know the same is true for many people I know.

And I'm not someone from a conservative/religious background where these values are esteemed culturally or anything.... Just from a very loving family. Just saddens me so many don't have this experience

Why “sad” about other people’s life choices?? How smarmy and condescending.

The planet is overpopulated and burning. Many worthy species are suffering and getting killed off daily due to human incursion, pollution, violence. Competition for dwindling resources is getting worse, as is climate change. Many humans suffer greatly every day.

Fewer people on Earth would be a positive. The fact that humans are finding other interesting and enriching life paths instead of automatically and mindlessly bio-breeding is a good thing, not something to lament.

WhereIsMyJumper · 14/05/2025 17:55

I agree OP.
Only because I am single and have no financial worries. Lots of great friends and freedom. I can feel lonely at times, but that’s nothing compared to the devastating feeling of knowing you’re in yet another relationship with someone who sees you only there to cater for their needs. I am a very loving person, but I have my DC to pour that in to and I can now also pour it into myself. Rather than giving it to someone who just wants more and more and never gives back. I’m sick of being an emotional support person for dysfunctional men.

CleanShirt · 14/05/2025 17:52

Emanresuunknown · 14/05/2025 17:39

I read these posts and feel so sad that so many people now don't seem to see any joy and happiness in children, family and marriage.

I have a decent career but it's my children and family that are the greatest light of my life and I know the same is true for many people I know.

And I'm not someone from a conservative/religious background where these values are esteemed culturally or anything.... Just from a very loving family. Just saddens me so many don't have this experience

I read posts about people in loveless marriages with children they resent and I feel sad for those posters.

Horses for courses.

Digdongdoo · 14/05/2025 17:51

Doubt it. Who can afford to live alone these days?

ladalover · 14/05/2025 17:50

Some great responses, really thought-provoking. I agree that straight men have been slow to catch on to the fact that women aren't necessarily financially dependent on them, and in many cases they haven't developed beyond the expectation of a wife coming as part of a package with a job, education etc. Certainly the housing costs explosion pulls for many in the other direction. That said, those set to inherit might not feel the same pressure (although if life spans increase that too will change). I read something a few years ago that predicted a period of time where the norm for men became lower educational achievement, and lower earnings than women. With increasing housing costs these men would either stay in the parental home for life, perhaps becoming carers at the end, or be in longterm shared accommodation with other single men, the kind that used to be just for students or early 20 somethings. Then, a portion of them might become fathers at some point, but not necessarily live with or be involved with the. mother beyond child rearing. Others would remain lifelong bachelors, perhaps developing new hobbies or interests in the time that'd otherwise have been devoted to childcare or relationships. I think this may already be happening in some parts of the Far East

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Gettingbysomehow · 14/05/2025 17:50

The trouble is women have changed and men have not. Until a bridge can be found nothing will change.

Joystir59 · 14/05/2025 17:50

I Live with a very dear old friend. Our relationship is very loving and close but platonic. We share a lot of time and interests and household chores, expenses, cooking, run a car between us. It's bliss. No sexual tension, our own wonderful individual bedrooms to sleep in at night, companionship and work through our separate worries and problems together when they arise.

okydokethen · 14/05/2025 17:49

Sounds lovely

CleanShirt · 14/05/2025 17:48

EmpressaurusKitty · 14/05/2025 15:00

Single, with a cat & a network of friends. Heaven.

This. In spades!

Youstolemygoddamnhouse · 14/05/2025 17:48

Emanresuunknown · 14/05/2025 17:39

I read these posts and feel so sad that so many people now don't seem to see any joy and happiness in children, family and marriage.

I have a decent career but it's my children and family that are the greatest light of my life and I know the same is true for many people I know.

And I'm not someone from a conservative/religious background where these values are esteemed culturally or anything.... Just from a very loving family. Just saddens me so many don't have this experience

Why are you sad though? People make their own choices. Not everyone wants a family, marriage and children. Raising children sounds utterly boring to me. I honestly couldn’t think of anything worse. But that’s my opinion. Doesn’t mean it’s fact. Doesn’t mean it’s right. I’m also from a loving family and certainly not sad that people choose a different lifestyle from me.

Bluebellspringtime · 14/05/2025 17:45

Tomatotater · 14/05/2025 15:19

I think, with people living longer there should be a 25 year ' contract' instead of marriage till death as well as divorce, so once you reach 25 years you have to choose to extend or not.

I genuinely could not agree more. This idea has the simplicity of genius.

GlidingSquirrels · 14/05/2025 17:44

Tomatotater · 14/05/2025 17:35

Female peasant were working too, while they had children, on the land, darning, washing, service etc. They weren't just in the home. Then they died in childbirth and their husbands married someone else. It was mainly the industrialist classes who had man working and woman at home, and the upper classes who had neither doing very much apart from managing their staff.

Working on the land, washing, making clothes etc was still primarily at home though. Women weren't going out providing alone like single parents now.
In the situation they did become single parents the children often ended up with family or in workhouses, or the mums ended up in prostitution out of desperation. They weren't managing both or single mums working long hours whilst having children in functional families.

Youstolemygoddamnhouse · 14/05/2025 17:41

NoHardSelling · 14/05/2025 17:30

I am married to one of the ‘good ones’. We have been empty-nesters for a few years now and are planning lots of trips. We get on really well.

My friend is also married to a good guy.

However, we still have wistful ‘jokey’ moments where we think after the menopause, wouldn’t it be nice if all the women lived together and all the men lived together once the child-rearing was over. I reckon we might just all have more fun that way ;-)

😂😂😂 I’ve had them women only and men only commune talks with my friends.

Emanresuunknown · 14/05/2025 17:39

I read these posts and feel so sad that so many people now don't seem to see any joy and happiness in children, family and marriage.

I have a decent career but it's my children and family that are the greatest light of my life and I know the same is true for many people I know.

And I'm not someone from a conservative/religious background where these values are esteemed culturally or anything.... Just from a very loving family. Just saddens me so many don't have this experience

Tomatotater · 14/05/2025 17:35

GlidingSquirrels · 14/05/2025 17:28

That was the male peasants. The females were mostly at home raising children and managing home life. Obviously a shift in what managing home life means then and now, but they weren't going out to work 40 hour a week and putting their children in nurseries.

Female peasant were working too, while they had children, on the land, darning, washing, service etc. They weren't just in the home. Then they died in childbirth and their husbands married someone else. It was mainly the industrialist classes who had man working and woman at home, and the upper classes who had neither doing very much apart from managing their staff.

ACynicalDad · 14/05/2025 17:34

I think being single will be a more accepted lifestyle choice, maybe fewer elderly relatives questioning when you are going to find yourself a nice boy/girl to settle down with, but I expect the majority will still try to find someone.

NoHardSelling · 14/05/2025 17:30

I am married to one of the ‘good ones’. We have been empty-nesters for a few years now and are planning lots of trips. We get on really well.

My friend is also married to a good guy.

However, we still have wistful ‘jokey’ moments where we think after the menopause, wouldn’t it be nice if all the women lived together and all the men lived together once the child-rearing was over. I reckon we might just all have more fun that way ;-)