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To think that a 35 year old man setting his dating range to age 21+ is revolting?

366 replies

colachive · 14/05/2025 06:23

DP friend is in the process of getting divorced. He is actively on the apps, as he hasn’t had sex with his ex wife for 5 years, is pretty desperate. My partner advised him to set his age range from 21 “if all you want is a shag”, and down to 26+ for a relationship.

AIBU to find this gross? 21 year old girls will think a 35 year old man is ancient, no? He seems to think that that’s an acceptable age gap. For context I’m 37.

OP posts:
Emonade · 15/05/2025 23:03

Emonade · 15/05/2025 19:49

It’s gross and I would’ve lost my shit at him too. And people saying what is the issue, the issue is 21 and 35 are very very different in terms of naturist and life experience. And also if you’re 35 you shouldn’t be into the same things as a 21 year old, like going out all the time and stuff?

It should’ve said maturity! Was breastfeeding and typing one handed

Youstolemygoddamnhouse · 15/05/2025 22:03

TempestTost · 15/05/2025 20:49

The problem is the idea that the brain is finished at this 25 year old point. It's not, it continues to change. Changes before and after this 25 year mark are driven largely by experience.

Which is why people arguing that under 25s should be protected from making bad decisions because they are not mature is completely ass backwards.

Of course some 50 year olds are stupid and a given 30 year old might make a better decision, but that's not a scientific comparison. But individuals will, barring unusual things intervening like brain injury or disease, be able to draw on more experiences and more complex patterns in their thinking at 50 than 30 which will inform their decisions. And that is also true of 50 year olds as a group compared to 30 year olds as a group.

I don’t think you’re understanding me. I agree with you. I don’t believe that at 25 your brain just stops developing. So I don’t really see your issue?

What evidence do you have to say a 50 year old has more insight and can make better decisions than someone younger? You’re also talking about two different things here when discussing drawing from experiences and more complex patterns of thinking. Surely it depends on the individual? Of course a 50 year old is going to be able to draw more experience as they have 20 years more life experience on the planet. You can’t compare the two. Two 50 year olds are not going to have the same patterns of thinking or experience either. I work in healthcare and if anything people become more stupid when making decisions, if even they become more closed minded

ArtTheClown · 15/05/2025 21:57

When I was 35, I was going out clubbing. My friends ages ranged from early 20s to 50s and 60s. I still go out clubbing now (not as often).

Same, it had a very clubby early/mid 30s. Alternative scene so it's a good age range spread and no meat market vibes.

XxSideshowAuntSallyx · 15/05/2025 21:48

Emonade · 15/05/2025 19:49

It’s gross and I would’ve lost my shit at him too. And people saying what is the issue, the issue is 21 and 35 are very very different in terms of naturist and life experience. And also if you’re 35 you shouldn’t be into the same things as a 21 year old, like going out all the time and stuff?

When I was 35, I was going out clubbing. My friends ages ranged from early 20s to 50s and 60s. I still go out clubbing now (not as often).

You like what you like. I'm not ready for a nice cup of cocoa and box set just yet.

x2boys · 15/05/2025 21:24

naivemelody88 · 15/05/2025 20:44

I’m 36 I have daughters and think 21 is still a child.

I was a qualified nurse at 22 I didn't go from playing with dollies,to managing a shift in an acute psychiatric ward in one year
21really isn't a child and my friend qualified along side me at 21
You may of course know some really immature 21 year olds

ninjahamster · 15/05/2025 21:01

Well my DH is 13 years older than me, we met when I was 23 and he was 37. Been married 26 years so it can work!

TempestTost · 15/05/2025 20:59

YearlySubscriptionRenewal · 15/05/2025 19:51

also if you’re 35 you shouldn’t be into the same things as a 21 year old, like going out all the time and stuff?

you are absolutely right. As a 35 yo woman, I was into knitting and gardening, with purple rinse in my hair 🙄

It's a bit of an odd comment isn't it. People enjoy a lot of different things.

When I was 23 I dated a man who was 46. He was a nice man and quite good looking, and we worked in related areas. Apart from talking about work stuff, we used to like driving out into the country to eat in little pubs, and watching movies. Eventually I decided I wanted a family, which he didn't, so we split up, but it was a nice relationship.

My current partner is about 13 years older than me, I'm middle aged and I suppose he is getting on to being old. We like driving out into the countryside to look at antiques, going to museums, walking, and watching movies.

My interests really haven't changed much I guess. And I have a fair number of younger and older friends who share them.

Butchyrestingface · 15/05/2025 20:56

naivemelody88 · 15/05/2025 20:44

I’m 36 I have daughters and think 21 is still a child.

You can THINK 21 is still a child, but you know it's not, right?

I mean, I'm 46. Maybe I think 36 is still a child and you're far too young to have daughters.

It's an opinion. But it's obviously factually incorrect, just as thinking 21 is still a child is also factually incorrect.

MoominMai · 15/05/2025 20:55

Well judging from the number of threads I’ve read on here where an age gap couple is having issues - many times it’s a woman in her early 20s and a male anywhere from mid 30-early 40s, so I don’t think every 21 year old would find that age range gross! Especially if they were handsome etc!

YankSplaining · 15/05/2025 20:55

YearlySubscriptionRenewal · 15/05/2025 19:51

also if you’re 35 you shouldn’t be into the same things as a 21 year old, like going out all the time and stuff?

you are absolutely right. As a 35 yo woman, I was into knitting and gardening, with purple rinse in my hair 🙄

Also, some 21-year-olds don’t want to be going out all the time. Lots of Mumsnetters seem to have the idea that people are “supposed” to spend their early twenties partying and drinking and dating/sleeping with lots of different people, but that doesn’t appeal to everyone. I’m very introverted, with sensory issues, and that’s always sounded awful to me.

smallsilvercloud · 15/05/2025 20:52

It’s worrying why your partner thinks anyone under 26 isn’t relationship worthy only a shag, let’s hope his mate is a bit more decent and at least lets them know upfront what he’s looking for. Maturity isn’t always a number.

TempestTost · 15/05/2025 20:49

Youstolemygoddamnhouse · 15/05/2025 19:02

I never said people are suddenly able to make “adult decisions”. I was talking about the actual physical brain stops developing at 25, as in that’s the time most brains have fully developed and this is the age that is mostly recognised as being a fully formed human. You’re talking about making decisions based on experience. I was not talking about that. It would be pretty stupid of me to say that our brains never stop developing when we grow neurons throughout our life.

Completely disagree with you saying a 50 year old will make better decisions and have a better insight in life than a 30 year old. Where is this evidence? Surely it would depend on life experience? I know many 50 year olds who live very sheltered lives and have very limited insight to that of a well cultured 30 year old. Many older people still make stupid decisions.

I don’t think you’ve actually read any of my
previous posts but I said originally a 21 year old is an adult. So yes, there is nothing wrong with two consenting adults having sex. So I suggest you read before banging about how a 50 year old can make better choices than a 30 year old and has more insight because you are frankly wrong.

The problem is the idea that the brain is finished at this 25 year old point. It's not, it continues to change. Changes before and after this 25 year mark are driven largely by experience.

Which is why people arguing that under 25s should be protected from making bad decisions because they are not mature is completely ass backwards.

Of course some 50 year olds are stupid and a given 30 year old might make a better decision, but that's not a scientific comparison. But individuals will, barring unusual things intervening like brain injury or disease, be able to draw on more experiences and more complex patterns in their thinking at 50 than 30 which will inform their decisions. And that is also true of 50 year olds as a group compared to 30 year olds as a group.

‘Your brain isn’t fully formed until you’re 25’: A neuroscientist demolishes the greatest mind myth - BBC Science Focus Magazine

Whether you are young or old, your brain is always changing.

https://www.sciencefocus.com/comment/brain-myth-25-development

Jayne35 · 15/05/2025 20:49

A friend of mine who is early 70s has been looking on dating sites (still young at heart) and most men 75-90 have set their preferred age to 40-60, which is also pretty grim and I imagine they are delusional. Men just always look for younger women.

naivemelody88 · 15/05/2025 20:44

I’m 36 I have daughters and think 21 is still a child.

x2boys · 15/05/2025 20:42

EmmaWoodhouseOfHighbury · 15/05/2025 20:07

I was 22 thirty years ago and my mum was still making my packed lunch.

My mum.was too to.take to work an a busy acute psychiatric ward where I was a staff nurse I was 22.

ArtTheClown · 15/05/2025 20:40

be clear I am annoyed at my DP and his friend for being lecherous middle aged men, and it gives me the ick.

You have years of being actually middle aged ahead of you. Stop playing at it now and enjoy being young.

ArtTheClown · 15/05/2025 20:39

It’s not a myth at all. It’s a biological fact. Look at any corresponding medical literature.

It's not a biological fact. The only significance of 25 is that was the age cut off of the study subjects.

EmmaWoodhouseOfHighbury · 15/05/2025 20:07

FleurDeFleur · 14/05/2025 06:42

Yes, and you were certainly an adult at 22!

I was 22 thirty years ago and my mum was still making my packed lunch.

karatemam · 15/05/2025 20:02

I was 32 when I met my partner who was 22 🤷🏻‍♀️

colachive · 15/05/2025 19:56

Arina22 · 15/05/2025 11:35

Its a psychological jealousy.

Op is in no way romantically involved with this man. So she has nothing to lose either way. He is a friend of her partner.

However her brain is going: " a man my age is saying yhat he would be sexually interested in women 14 years younger than me. Does that mean i'm old?

And she gets jealous and angry at the younger women

Which is where OP's post has started from

Edited

😂 😂😂 always women hating other women eh?? to be clear I am annoyed at my DP and his friend for being lecherous middle aged men, and it gives me the ick. I’m not jealous of the younger women, for the privilege of having a man child (who’s just been left by his very successful career focused wife) using them to nurse his ego. If they are attracted to him, great. I suspect they will see him as slightly pathetic.

OP posts:
YearlySubscriptionRenewal · 15/05/2025 19:51

also if you’re 35 you shouldn’t be into the same things as a 21 year old, like going out all the time and stuff?

you are absolutely right. As a 35 yo woman, I was into knitting and gardening, with purple rinse in my hair 🙄

YearlySubscriptionRenewal · 15/05/2025 19:50

21 and 35 are very very different in terms of naturist

I am not sure what you are actually trying to say here? 😂

Emonade · 15/05/2025 19:49

colachive · 14/05/2025 10:11

Thanks for the replies. For the record, my partner’s attitude of “21 year old girls are good for a shag” is what I find revolting - we had a blowout in the car about it. Agree that it isn’t like in my youth when older men would sleaze on you in the club - the apps make sure the age ranges are consensual so who cares - but still, I find it gross that a man of 35 expects to be able to use young girls for a shag 🙄

It’s gross and I would’ve lost my shit at him too. And people saying what is the issue, the issue is 21 and 35 are very very different in terms of naturist and life experience. And also if you’re 35 you shouldn’t be into the same things as a 21 year old, like going out all the time and stuff?

Delphiniumandlupins · 15/05/2025 19:39

x2boys · 14/05/2025 13:53

And my parents had a four week age,and my dad was my mum's carer for years before she died in January ,he was exactly four weeks older than her.

My dad was 12 years older than my mum and also became her carer.

Chattyham · 15/05/2025 19:02

It’s your partner that suggested this…