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BBC news using the phrase "broken home"

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IsitaHatOrACat · 14/05/2025 04:35

Really? Really? Whilst I'm not overly interested to know about this man's drug fuelled years, the description of him coming from a "broken home" has infuriated me.
As a single parent to a 15 year old, I can confirm that there us nothing whatsoever "broken" about our home or small family.
I really thought we had moved on from this type of shaming of single parent families
Seriously BBC, do better.

BBC News - Heavy hangs the crown - sadness at Wiggins' troubles
www.bbc.com/sport/cycling/articles/c23mv42m2lmo

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Missywelliot · 14/05/2025 06:59

Yes, it's a poor description. A violent / disruptive home with a shit father would have been a better description for it.

Feetinthegrass · 14/05/2025 06:58

WhatNoRaisins · 14/05/2025 06:48

I don't think it's wrong to acknowledge that having parents separate is a difficult experience for children even when handled well.

Sorry but I've always had raised eyebrows at people claiming kids with separated parents are lucky to have two wonderful homes, celebrate Christmas twice and even some claiming that it means "twice the love". It's very doth protest too much. Obviously separating can be the least worst option for a family but it's not fair to downplay how hard it can be on kids.

I would have loved my parents to separate, and to never see my father again. You don’t speak for me. There are many scenarios I can think of where the child would welcome a one parent household wholeheartedly. It’s not least worst or anything like it! You are making some very narrow assumptions there.

Serpentstooth · 14/05/2025 06:57

Changing the language doesn't change the circumstances. However you want to describe a situation that began as a 2 parent family unit which then fell apart, it's broken, for whatever reason.

SalfordQuays · 14/05/2025 06:57

I agree with you OP, and a lot of posters don’t seem to understand your point.

Childhood homes come in many shapes and sizes, including idyllic 2-parent households, abusive 2-parent households, happy single-parent households, miserable single-parent households, grandparents, foster parents and so on.

The term “broken home” means that there has been a split between the parents, and the children now live with one parent. I think it’s offensive to talk about this situation as if it is always a negative thing. Plenty of kids have perfectly happy childhoods in single-parent households. And plenty of kids have a miserable time in 2-parent households. There is so much more to childhood than whether or not your parents are together, and it’s wrong to use such a crude blanket phrase as “broken home”.

Abusive homes are indeed “broken”, but that’s not what the phrase means.

ThisOldThang · 14/05/2025 06:56

Neurodiversitydoctor · 14/05/2025 05:35

But statistically being brought up in a,single parent house hold is a huge risk factor for all sorts of things. The evidence is in to try to argue otherwise is disingenuous.

When you combine that knowledge with how casually the advice to 'LTB' is thrown around along with such vacuous slogans as 'you only have one life and you deserve to be happy', perhaps there should be a bit more stigma?

"My DH works in the ER. The other night he was dealing with the aftermath of a train crash. He came home, crawled into bed and cried. When I got out of bed, I realised he'd left his pants on the floor.'

"I can't believe he's disrespected you like that! How dare he! He'll never change and there's no excuse. LTB!!!"

frozendaisy · 14/05/2025 06:56

Flipslop · 14/05/2025 06:41

It’s not appropriate language is it, troubled home, dysfunctional home, abusive home

It’s a BBC article, whom as a news organisation are called out most of the time for being sensitive woke leftie liberals, so you would assume more aware of using phrases that can offend, it’s not some brash opinion news channel who don’t care, actively enjoy, causing offence to certain demographics (which single mothers - females only - will be one of those).

It might just be an accurate description in this instance.

LlynTegid · 14/05/2025 06:54

Appropriate to describe Bradley Wiggins childhood, agree not always the case.

Movingon2024 · 14/05/2025 06:53

It’s an awful, outdated phrase which used to be used (79s, 80s, 90s at least) to describe single parent homes.

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IwasDueANameChange · 14/05/2025 06:52

77% of families with children have both parents present, 23% of families with children are headed by a single parent.

Flipslop · 14/05/2025 06:52

Crackerjacked · 14/05/2025 06:43

Statistically a child coming from a home with one parent is more likely to face many more problems that a child from a home with two parents. You may well be an exception, op, but your level of defensiveness suggests that you have more going on . I hate the idea of sanitising our language to pretend that certain children aren’t devastated by coming from a broken home.

Of course those stats will stand as couples who have separated are far more likely to have abuse / dysfunction involved hence the relationship failed. However to refer to the home being broken I don’t think is correct or relevant actually, it puts focus on the negative being with the fact that the ‘family’ no longer remains together. These awful stats might also improve if single parents and their kids were better supported and treated with respect allowing them to thrive best

IwasDueANameChange · 14/05/2025 06:50

But don't a majority of marriages end in divorce so aren't a huge proportion of households at one point single parent families?

Less than you'd think. A big chunk of divorces either happen before there are any children/in childfree marriages, or after children have grown up. Most children grow up with both their parents.

WhatNoRaisins · 14/05/2025 06:48

I don't think it's wrong to acknowledge that having parents separate is a difficult experience for children even when handled well.

Sorry but I've always had raised eyebrows at people claiming kids with separated parents are lucky to have two wonderful homes, celebrate Christmas twice and even some claiming that it means "twice the love". It's very doth protest too much. Obviously separating can be the least worst option for a family but it's not fair to downplay how hard it can be on kids.

arcticpandas · 14/05/2025 06:45

IsitaHatOrACat · 14/05/2025 06:38

I'm not!!! I'm am proud of my family and what we've achieved together despite challenges. I want others to feel the same and not bound by outdated stereotypes.

Ps. There's nothing "broken" about my family

I wasn't responding to you but to another poster. I was just stating that I come from a broken home because my parents divorced. There was no abuse but at 11 their divorce broke me down and I suffered immensily because I felt my home was broken and therefore so was I.

Escapingagain · 14/05/2025 06:45

I’m with you op also a single parent who walked away from a situation to protect my children. Nothing here is broken. Our lives are better for it. If families are living happily without marital stress great but those in controlling/abusive relationships are more damaging and in a worse situation for staying. Broken home seems an outdated term.

Crackerjacked · 14/05/2025 06:43

Statistically a child coming from a home with one parent is more likely to face many more problems that a child from a home with two parents. You may well be an exception, op, but your level of defensiveness suggests that you have more going on . I hate the idea of sanitising our language to pretend that certain children aren’t devastated by coming from a broken home.

jeaux90 · 14/05/2025 06:43

Agree with you OP. I fixed my home when I left my abusive ex. Lone parenting my DD16 since she was 1. It’s very offensive and inaccurate.

Flipslop · 14/05/2025 06:41

frozendaisy · 14/05/2025 05:02

But it probably is a perfectly accurate description for the article. This report is on a particular person not an opinion piece on single parent households.

Journalists aren’t going to stop, or shouldn’t, stop using applicable language because it winds someone up or they take personal offence over something out of context.

It’s not appropriate language is it, troubled home, dysfunctional home, abusive home

frozendaisy · 14/05/2025 06:40

Bunny44 · 14/05/2025 06:28

But don't a majority of marriages end in divorce so aren't a huge proportion of households at one point single parent families?

Accorfing to internet 70% of children live with both parents. Obviously not all of them should.
Not all parents are married
Not all divorcees have children (or children together)

So a divorce statistic alone doesn’t tell you very much about children being brought up in a single parent household.

IsitaHatOrACat · 14/05/2025 06:38

arcticpandas · 14/05/2025 06:36

The family unit is broken. If you were single having a child you're family unit is not broken. I don't see what's wrong with "broken family", I come from one. Since you are reacting so negatively to it maybe you're projecting because you're divorced?

I'm not!!! I'm am proud of my family and what we've achieved together despite challenges. I want others to feel the same and not bound by outdated stereotypes.

Ps. There's nothing "broken" about my family

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arcticpandas · 14/05/2025 06:36

FortyElephants · 14/05/2025 05:45

Do you think it's an ok expression to use? Do you think divorce automatically means a family is broken? Are you projecting because your childhood was difficult?

The family unit is broken. If you were single having a child you're family unit is not broken. I don't see what's wrong with "broken family", I come from one. Since you are reacting so negatively to it maybe you're projecting because you're divorced?

IsitaHatOrACat · 14/05/2025 06:36

Bunny44 · 14/05/2025 06:28

But don't a majority of marriages end in divorce so aren't a huge proportion of households at one point single parent families?

I'm not arguing that and this shouldn't be open to debate and more understanding (whilst considering factors such as poverty, disability, poor housing, mental health, effects of domestic abuse etc)
My issue is with the language used which has massive negative connotations and perpetuates stereotypes

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frozendaisy · 14/05/2025 06:35

IsitaHatOrACat · 14/05/2025 05:34

How is "broken home" applicable language??! It's not. How can a home or family be "broken". It's highly loaded phrase perpetuating stigma.

In this article, it says (paraphrasing) he grew up in poverty with an estranged (cock of a) father. Sounds pretty broken for a teenage boy.
It strongly suggests his dad was the weakest link here not the parent (mum) who stayed.

I understand your annoyance of the phrase, but there are times when broken home can be accurate, perhaps the journalist has more detailed information of his home life when growing up but not to clog the article up with a full biography chose those words to give an impression without going into detail.

It’s a valid interesting debate OP but possibly the wrong article as an example.

IsitaHatOrACat · 14/05/2025 06:34

nomas · 14/05/2025 06:27

Bradley Wiggins father was an alcoholic who would drink himself into a stupor.

He was absent for most of his son's upbringing throughout childhood and teenage years.

So yes, it was a broken home. It’s nothing to do with Bradley’s mum being a single mum.

Stop looking for offence where none is intended.

Then the journalist should have explained this. The phrase "broken home" is judgementally used to describe separated parents.
I am not "offended". I am concerned that perpetuating harmful stereotypes through the use of language prevents people leaving harmful relationships and affects the emotional wellbeing of separated parents and children .
Language is powerful. See also: harmful language used around mental health which conyinues outdated views and can prevent people receiving much needed help

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RoadtoVima · 14/05/2025 06:29

Absolutely ridiculous, outdated term.

Particularly in a country with high rates of divorce, single parents etc.

YANBU op.

Bunny44 · 14/05/2025 06:28

Neurodiversitydoctor · 14/05/2025 05:35

But statistically being brought up in a,single parent house hold is a huge risk factor for all sorts of things. The evidence is in to try to argue otherwise is disingenuous.

But don't a majority of marriages end in divorce so aren't a huge proportion of households at one point single parent families?

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