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To feel it’s a motherhood penalty… AIBU?

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Yudl · 13/05/2025 15:31

Recently got a new job in which they offered 95k. Unfortunately they would not be flexible on hours despite the fact that in my current role I work after collecting dd. Instead they said they would pay me until 3:30 which means my pay is effectively cut to under 75k (and only a small pay rise from where I am). I feel annoyed as I can do the hours they need but do need to do a pick up in between. We are expected to work some evenings anyway.

AIBU to feel miffed about this? DH is sadly no longer around to help

OP posts:
BIossomtoes · 13/05/2025 16:14

spoonbillstretford · 13/05/2025 16:11

If they are paying that kind of salary, depending on the role, one might also argue that she is senior and grown up enough to decide when she actually works, and should be trusted to just get on and do the work, and doesn't need micromanaging to check whether she is at her desk every minute of the day.

How does that work if the work is time sensitive?

Isittimeformynapyet · 13/05/2025 16:14

I actually feel like it's a penalty to CF women

@owlexpress I'm so used to reading Cheeky Fucker I had to think for a moment there 😂

Agapornis · 13/05/2025 16:11

So they're offering you slightly more money for fewer hours? Take the job, but do less because you'll be working part-time, and absolutely no way I'd be working evenings.

If it's a new employer do double check they're not expecting full time work for less pay, and your perks, terms & conditions, bonus eligibility, and if you've been at your current employer for more than 2 years you are a bit more protected.

spoonbillstretford · 13/05/2025 16:11

CopperWhite · 13/05/2025 15:41

If they’re paying that kind of salary (and even if they’re not tbh), they are entitled to expect your full attention without you doing childcare during working hours.

If they are paying that kind of salary, depending on the role, one might also argue that she is senior and grown up enough to decide when she actually works, and should be trusted to just get on and do the work, and doesn't need micromanaging to check whether she is at her desk every minute of the day.

TallulahBetty · 13/05/2025 16:08

Sanch1 · 13/05/2025 16:07

At 13 they dont need collecting so it wouldnt matter. My 11 year buses then walks.

Mine needs collecting - no buses and too far to walk.

Moveoverdarlin · 13/05/2025 16:08

Sofiewoo · 13/05/2025 15:40

I’m sure they will notice the OP not being responsive or able to commit to any meetings around the school pick up window.

You reckon? Mine haven’t and my son is in Year 5. I leave the house at 3.20 and am home by 3.40pm.

So many people in my company have their diaries booked out from 3 till 4 ish. I wonder what they could be doing….they are all picking up their kids.

hazelnutvanillalatte · 13/05/2025 16:07

YABU. You don't need to do the pick ups. Other parent/family member/paid help.

Or organise a rota with other working parents. That's what some people do in my DCs' classes.

Sanch1 · 13/05/2025 16:07

TallulahBetty · 13/05/2025 16:06

How old is the kid? If 5, I can see why they're saying no. At 13, they'll be ok to fend for themselves while you continue to work.

At 13 they dont need collecting so it wouldnt matter. My 11 year buses then walks.

Bustabloodvessel · 13/05/2025 16:07

Just when I think I have heard worst level of entitlement I pop on to MN…

Sanch1 · 13/05/2025 16:06

It's just parenthood. We pay for after school care. I would suggest you look into that if you want the job. Ours is £9 a session.

Ddakji · 13/05/2025 16:06

If they are expecting some evening work then having a child at home clearly isn’t an issue, given that most children will have returned from school and after-school club by then.

Middle-management jobsworths who loathe any kind of flexibility abound on MN, so I’d take the poll and most of these comments with that in mind. Sounds like one of them is in charge at this new job, too.

TallulahBetty · 13/05/2025 16:06

How old is the kid? If 5, I can see why they're saying no. At 13, they'll be ok to fend for themselves while you continue to work.

Spies · 13/05/2025 16:05

I really don't understand how anyone could think the business was unreasonable. They have offered you a brilliant compromise and if you want the full time hours you're free to arrange childcare instead of expecting to earn a full time wage whilst not actually working but instead looking after a child.

I'd be biting their hand off and singing their praises for being so accommodating!

RexsSoupCan · 13/05/2025 16:05

Does your job role mean you need to be available during normal office hours? If so then YABU.
However if your work is back office stuff that can be done any time (within reason) then they ABU. I have 2 people in my team (one on your kind of salary) who work as you have outlined - they just log back on after the school pickup.

You'd think there would be some give and take from your employer when they expect you to work away.

indianques · 13/05/2025 16:05

I wouldn't work one minute past 330pm then.

Viviennemary · 13/05/2025 16:04

YABU. I would be reluctant to employ somebody with your entitled attitude.

Moonnstars · 13/05/2025 16:03

From your post it sounds like you aren't just nipping out to pick up a child, but that you will then be working with them at home.
I imagine the hours were advertised when you applied for the job and where you say they aren't offering flexibility, they are by allowing you to work school hours which is something many parents would love to have.

MightAsWellBeGretel · 13/05/2025 16:03

Yudl · 13/05/2025 15:31

Recently got a new job in which they offered 95k. Unfortunately they would not be flexible on hours despite the fact that in my current role I work after collecting dd. Instead they said they would pay me until 3:30 which means my pay is effectively cut to under 75k (and only a small pay rise from where I am). I feel annoyed as I can do the hours they need but do need to do a pick up in between. We are expected to work some evenings anyway.

AIBU to feel miffed about this? DH is sadly no longer around to help

I'd take it, happily! An uplift on your salary, fewer hours and more time with your child!

If you don't like it, you can pay for childcare like everyone else - the majority of whom are likely earning sub 95k and even 75k salaries.

Sofiewoo · 13/05/2025 16:03

Beamur · 13/05/2025 15:50

Personally I think it's very short sighted of employers not to allow some flexibility around parenting. As long as you do the required work and the required hours, does it really matter if you're unavailable for an hour or two?

Many businesses function by operating during business hours, if you can’t liaise with suppliers or other consultants during your working time because you’re working anti social hours then what’s the point?
Hardly any roles are non collaborative at this salary bracket.

OurManyEnds · 13/05/2025 16:02

But…they’ve said you can work FT for a FT salary, or PT for a PT salary.

What’s the penalty exactly?

Starlight1984 · 13/05/2025 16:02

Moveoverdarlin · 13/05/2025 15:39

I’d be inclined to go back and say ‘It’s sorted. I’ll work full time for 95k thanks v much.’ And I’d just carry on nipping out and picking her up, or do afterschool club a few days, a playdate here and there and just make it work.

Like others have said it depends on how old she is. Tricky to WFH with her there if she’s 4, anything 7 and over should be much easier.

Edited

Yes great idea. Do this and then think of an excuse as to why you are never online / able to answer calls between 3-4pm.🙄Really fair on all the other staff too.

Also as you've already mentioned you need to do school pick-ups, they will be monitoring even more closely. Employers know all the WFH tricks now...

PeppyTealDuck · 13/05/2025 16:01

The offer to work reduced hours could give you a nice work-life balance instead of the payrise. Doesn’t sound bad at all.

BlackPantherPrincess · 13/05/2025 16:00

I actually think it sounds like a great compromise.

mewkins · 13/05/2025 16:00

It's annoying but I would either take 75k for a school hours job (and make the most of it!) or find a childminder/after school club and take the new salary!

faerietales · 13/05/2025 15:59

Beamur · 13/05/2025 15:50

Personally I think it's very short sighted of employers not to allow some flexibility around parenting. As long as you do the required work and the required hours, does it really matter if you're unavailable for an hour or two?

In many roles, you can’t just disappear for two hours to look after your kids - you have to be present to deal with clients and to do your job.

And they are offering her flexibility - but that comes with a price (pay-cut). They’re not going to let her do fewer hours for the same amount of money.

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