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To be concerned at our absolute sheer vulnerability to cyberattacks

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Nutmuncher · 13/05/2025 12:06

The M&S and Co-op attacks need to be a wake up call to every business, service provider, leader, policy maker and contingency planner in this country. All it would take to bring complete chaos to every town and city in the country would be a simultaneous attack on our supermarkets and their supply chains.

The M&S attack is now weeks on and it’s plain to see that whatever systems they used prior to this were finely tuned to ensure stores were well stocked all of the time and that without these systems it is virtually impossible to have any semblance of operational continuity. Until I walked in and saw my local M&S almost fully depleted of fresh fruit, salad, vegetables, ready meals, sandwiches, cereals, tinned goods, bakery I was blissfully unaware of how much of an impact these attacks could have.

Now imagine if these attackers did the same to Tesco, Sainsbury’s, Asda, Morrisons, Lidl, Aldi, Waitrose, Ocado, Booths, Spar, Cost Cutters, Home Bargains. It could cripple the whole Nation and bring about a risk of social unrest on a scale never seen before. What plans are in place should such an unthinkable yet entirely possible scenario arise? Where exactly would we get food from if we couldn’t pay for it or it simply wasn’t arriving into stores?

There doesn’t seem to be a week that goes by without hearing of payments problems, connectivity issues, network failures. Yes a lot will be purely benign technical issues but hackers will be testing the perimeters searching for any vulnerabilities to exploit.

Businesses with all their operational eggs in one basket need to urgently put in place multilayered plans to avoid becoming the next M&S and risking weeks long chaos should such an attack happen to them.

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Mishmashs · 13/05/2025 14:08

My family live in a small highland town and the co-op has not had fresh food for about a week. Called in at our tiny co-op this morning (southern Scotland) to find the same, fridges of fresh food almost bare. Milk was in good supply but yoghurts, pizzas, houmus type things very bare.

Nutmuncher · 13/05/2025 13:57

@CheeryHelper I agree on the Co-op being barely reported on, even the M&S news tended to be more focused around online orders being paused rather than the fact there’s been huge disruption to the food side of the business.

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CheeryHelper · 13/05/2025 12:55

This situation is happening now. The co-op attack has caused chaos which seems to barely have been reported in favour of the m and s one. In many rural areas (eg the Scottish islands) they only have a co-op. The only shop on the island - nearest non co-op is a ferry ride then hours of driving (driving past many co-ops on the way). And most of the coop shelves are empty (particularly fresh - you can still get a tin of beans or some frozen bits). Staff have no idea when any produce will be delivered. No online food delivery available.

Daisyvodka · 13/05/2025 12:41

For every one successful attack there are millions of unsuccessful ones warded off by automated systems. I work in the sector and unfortunately there are a lot of organisations that have been either naive or greedy. Greedy by the fact they don't want to spend money on cyber security because ultimately it's just an outgoing, there's no return other than NOT losing money. It's not very sexy or appealing to stakeholders. Hopefully this will give organisations a kick up the arse, as the technology, knowledge, information and support are all there for companies to access if they wish to do so! It's an endless, always evolving world to defend against attacks and sometimes you can do everything right and still get attacked, but quite often companies aren't doing the basics - when you think about the parts of a business, cyber security often isn't one that comes to mind, but its as important as your finance/payroll.

FinanceLPlates · 13/05/2025 12:16

These types of attacks have ramped up exponentially. Surprise surprise, humans invent a powerful tool - AI - and put them to nefarious use.

Pretty much all systems get constantly pummelled by ai bots now. Lots are fairly unsophisticated Denial of Service attacks, ie websites being hit with so much bot traffic that they keel over. That alone can cause chaos and lots of work for internal teams to fight off.

M&S style hacks are far more concerning still.

YearlySubscriptionRenewal · 13/05/2025 12:14

That's why jobs in cyber security are huge.

You just see one (spectacularly) successful attack, for whatever reason. You don't see all the failed attacks happening every day, several times a day, and all the contingency plans already in place.

Simple road blocks were and are enough to disrupt the food supplies, but somehow we forget about these.

AliBaliBee1234 · 13/05/2025 12:08

This is why the idea of all humans being replaced by robots is ridiculous. Technology will always be open to this threat.

Will I be getting in a self driven vehicle knowing this, absolutely not.

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