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5 year old in the ladies. Is it okay?

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LoveFridaynight · 13/05/2025 08:52

At what age would people feel uncomfortable to have a child of the opposite sex in the "wrong" toilet?
I was told off yesterday for taking my nearly 5 year old son in to the ladies. A woman in there said he should use the men's. No-one has ever said anything like this to me before. I could understand if he was a teenager or something but a young child?
Really? On his own? At 5? Not that he could anyway as he's autistic and not toilet trained so I needed to change his nappy.
I thought afterwards I should have used the disabled toilet but I try to avoid that incase someone who can only use the disabled toilet comes along. I think I will just do this in future though.
But regardless of disability I don't think children under the age of 9 should be in the toilet on their own.
What are your thoughts on the age a child should be using the "right" toilet?

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GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 31/05/2025 19:15

LoveFridaynight · 13/05/2025 08:52

At what age would people feel uncomfortable to have a child of the opposite sex in the "wrong" toilet?
I was told off yesterday for taking my nearly 5 year old son in to the ladies. A woman in there said he should use the men's. No-one has ever said anything like this to me before. I could understand if he was a teenager or something but a young child?
Really? On his own? At 5? Not that he could anyway as he's autistic and not toilet trained so I needed to change his nappy.
I thought afterwards I should have used the disabled toilet but I try to avoid that incase someone who can only use the disabled toilet comes along. I think I will just do this in future though.
But regardless of disability I don't think children under the age of 9 should be in the toilet on their own.
What are your thoughts on the age a child should be using the "right" toilet?

FGS, a 5 year old is fine. Please ignore any such silliness in future.,

bellinisurge · 31/05/2025 19:12

8 is about the max.

Bushmillsbabe · 18/05/2025 11:58

Okshacky · 16/05/2025 16:35

“They” are ridiculous then. The sex of the sexually mature adult is the issue not prepubescent children.

Exactly, as long as they are below the age where children start going through puberty (so 8 or under) then it's fine I think.

croydon15 · 17/05/2025 20:08

Zoec1975 · 17/05/2025 17:05

No no way would i have let my 5 yr old in the mens on his own if dad wasn’t there no way.my youngest came in to the ladies until T least 8/9.too scared to let him be in there on his own.stuff what people say or think please do what is right for you.xx

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Zoec1975 · 17/05/2025 17:05

No no way would i have let my 5 yr old in the mens on his own if dad wasn’t there no way.my youngest came in to the ladies until T least 8/9.too scared to let him be in there on his own.stuff what people say or think please do what is right for you.xx

bythere · 16/05/2025 22:41

Okshacky · 16/05/2025 16:35

“They” are ridiculous then. The sex of the sexually mature adult is the issue not prepubescent children.

Especially that young, nursery and reception. There's no real need for privacy from children of those ages.

Okshacky · 16/05/2025 16:35

“They” are ridiculous then. The sex of the sexually mature adult is the issue not prepubescent children.

funinthesun19 · 16/05/2025 16:30

Okshacky · 16/05/2025 16:22

I’m sorry? What are you talking about? You suggested that it wasn’t logical to be less concerned about a man with his daughter than a man by himself in a female space. My response was to explain that a man with his daughter US less of a threat than a lone man. He shouldn’t be there at all obviously but women are (through necessity) extremely good at assessing risk. Are you male? This is fairly obvious stuff to the prey, but perhaps not to the predator.

It was me who suggested it wasn’t logical to be less concerned about a man with his daughter than a boy with his mum. Nothing about a lone man.
They have said a dad with his daughter can go in there but an 8 year old boy can’t with his mum. Makes no sense to me.

Okshacky · 16/05/2025 16:22

Needspaceforlego · 16/05/2025 15:39

And you think a boy with is mum is going to be violent or something?

I’m sorry? What are you talking about? You suggested that it wasn’t logical to be less concerned about a man with his daughter than a man by himself in a female space. My response was to explain that a man with his daughter US less of a threat than a lone man. He shouldn’t be there at all obviously but women are (through necessity) extremely good at assessing risk. Are you male? This is fairly obvious stuff to the prey, but perhaps not to the predator.

Needspaceforlego · 16/05/2025 15:39

Okshacky · 16/05/2025 13:57

Isn’t it more that a man with his daughter is less likely to be violent and unlikely to rape you?

And you think a boy with is mum is going to be violent or something?

Okshacky · 16/05/2025 13:57

funinthesun19 · 16/05/2025 09:26

I’ve never seen this either, but apparently it is a thing. I reckon some of the women who are angry about boys will bizarrely be ok about a man being in there because the man is seen as protecting his daughter. But he’s a grown arsed man in female space, no matter how they want to frame it.

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Isn’t it more that a man with his daughter is less likely to be violent and unlikely to rape you?

Solerina · 16/05/2025 10:46

I haven’t much of a clue about bringing up children as I’ve never had any. But I wouldn’t bat an eyelid at seeing a 5 year old boy (or one even older) in the ladies toilets with his mum. You can’t possibly let a small boy like that go into a male public toilet on his own. I believe the vast majority of people in this world are good but we all know there are bad people living among us and you can’t be too careful.

bythere · 16/05/2025 10:33

funinthesun19 · 16/05/2025 09:26

I’ve never seen this either, but apparently it is a thing. I reckon some of the women who are angry about boys will bizarrely be ok about a man being in there because the man is seen as protecting his daughter. But he’s a grown arsed man in female space, no matter how they want to frame it.

Edited

Exactly, he can protect her in the men's room where he belongs not enter the ladies as an adult.

funinthesun19 · 16/05/2025 09:26

bythere · 15/05/2025 19:05

"Men bring their little girls into the women’s toilets."

I've never seen this, small children go into the one of the adult's sex.

I’ve never seen this either, but apparently it is a thing. I reckon some of the women who are angry about boys will bizarrely be ok about a man being in there because the man is seen as protecting his daughter. But he’s a grown arsed man in female space, no matter how they want to frame it.

Barnbrack · 15/05/2025 22:30

TaterTots68 · 15/05/2025 18:19

Really? Can I ask why? They have severe learning disabilities and are more like children than 20 year olds. I, on the other hand, am a 50+ year old woman who might actually scare some of the men using the urinals!

At that age you need to use disabled facilities of take the person you are caring for into their appropriate facilities. In my mind I think this applies from age 10 or so. If my son isn't yet independent by then that's the Stacey I'd expect to take. As much as it will make life trickier it also doesn't mean I can take a teenage boy into a teenage girl's safe space.

Barnbrack · 15/05/2025 22:23

My 7 yr old has suspected ADHD/high functioning autism/ seizure damage from previous prolonged seizures. He seems entirely ordinary if he's emotionally regulated and well managed. He can't go in a toilet alone. He can't wipe, struggles physically to do it but also it's a complete sensory nightmare for him. He'll hold and hold until we get home but has caused impaction doing it before. He also can't be left outside the toilet while I take my 3 yr old daughter to the toilet or go myself (but honestly I just hold it like a camel unless I'm unwell) he's also 135cm tall which is about the height of an average 10 yr old and very broad shouldered.

I try where possible to use the disabled toilets (he receives child disability payment, he is disabled despite not having a concrete diagnosis as yet and presenting as a clever and talkative child at times) but if one of them is absolutely bursting and it's in use I take the 3 of us into the ladies and brazen it out. It's not ideal but I'm also not about to have one of them poop themselves because of it. I work constantly on his independence, we currently have a sticker chart for wiping with rewards for managing 1, 3 and fully wiped wipes and he is trying so hard but we're not there yet.

DollydaydreamTheThird · 15/05/2025 22:05

I would have told her where to shove it. You don't send a 5 year old into men's toilets unsupervised. My DS who is 5 will be coming with me until I think he is old enough and confident enough. My other DS 10 has been going on his own since he was about 7/8. Carry on as you OP and if anyone says anything again. Remind them that he is only 5 years old and give them the death stare. I wish she had said it to me I would have tore her a new arsehole.

Okshacky · 15/05/2025 21:52

Needspaceforlego · 15/05/2025 21:39

Reading all her posts, inc the men refusing to use the disabled. Or them not being available
What would you suggest she does?

Take him to the disabled toilets which are provided for disabled people. Teaching him to go into the ladies is a total disaster for a learning disabled adult male and no one working with these vulnerable people should be oblivious to that.

Needspaceforlego · 15/05/2025 21:39

Okshacky · 15/05/2025 19:57

I would be furious if my sons care worker was taking him into the ladies at 20, it’s totally unacceptable and really poor care.

Reading all her posts, inc the men refusing to use the disabled. Or them not being available
What would you suggest she does?

CurlewKate · 15/05/2025 20:21

LoveFridaynight · 15/05/2025 16:46

But they are in a cubicle so it's not like the boy is going to see any more than he would if she was just walking around. That's why I was so shocked that the woman had a go at me.
Changing rooms are different obviously.

Sorry- that wasn’t meant to be in reply to you! I definitely think it’s absolutely fine for boys to be in the women’s until they are 8 and she was being an idiot to challenge you. There are always posters talking about 11/12 year olds in the women’s-it’s them I gave an issue with!

Okshacky · 15/05/2025 19:57

TaterTots68 · 15/05/2025 18:19

Really? Can I ask why? They have severe learning disabilities and are more like children than 20 year olds. I, on the other hand, am a 50+ year old woman who might actually scare some of the men using the urinals!

I would be furious if my sons care worker was taking him into the ladies at 20, it’s totally unacceptable and really poor care.

bythere · 15/05/2025 19:05

"Men bring their little girls into the women’s toilets."

I've never seen this, small children go into the one of the adult's sex.

lampyyy · 15/05/2025 18:21

I send my eight-year-old to the men’s solo, and always feel a little nervous about that. But he’s tall, so I know people would be funny about him being in the ladies’.

I wouldn’t send a child ANY younger!

The woman was wrong.

TaterTots68 · 15/05/2025 18:19

Anxioustealady · 15/05/2025 14:42

I think it makes more sense for you to go into the men's than for a man in his 20s to be in the female toilets

Really? Can I ask why? They have severe learning disabilities and are more like children than 20 year olds. I, on the other hand, am a 50+ year old woman who might actually scare some of the men using the urinals!

Wtafdidido · 15/05/2025 18:17

Absolutely fine at that age. Tell her to mind her own business.

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