Nigel Farage

Articles by Age UK and the Fabian society, both organisation in support of pensioners.

They aren't criminals. If granted asylum, they will undoubtedly be working and paying plenty into the system. You only have to go to an NHS hospital to see how very dependent we are on immigration.

No-one pays poll tax.

Most pensioners have occupational pensions, and additionally are free to work.

I did. All five hotels listed are 2 and 3 stars with quite mediocre ratings on tripadvisor.

That was before they were rejigged for asylum seekers which involves lower hygiene standards, truly awful catering standards - when food is provided - etc

You can bet that the facilities offered to asylum seekers would in no way qualify any of those hotels for stars currently.

I've seen an account of someone who booked into a hotel that was being used to house immigrants - apparently it was some sort of mistake and his booking shouldn't have been taken, but when he turned up there was nothing else available. Apparently the room was grubby with very basic and fairly battered furniture, the bedlinen wasn't any too clean, it was noisy because so many rooms were housing whole families or cramming several strangers in togethers, the breakfast was basic cereal and bread with teabags and coffee to make your own drink, and he absolutely hated it. As he pointed out, he at least had the benefit of his own room and could escape after one night.

Anyone who thinks living conditions like that are luxurious has very low standards.

I find Farage inherently sleazy. He's also demonstrably a hypocrite - look at the way he lives abroad as a tax dodge, and draws his salary as an MP whilst not doing constituency work. I don't understand how anyone can vote for him.

Toiletries are not free according to gov.uk, However some charities provide them to some asylum seekers

https://www.nottinghampost.com/news/local-news/5-hotels-skegness-being-used-7821612

You can check for yourself.

Why do people think that they’re all in four star hotels? I’ve been in hotels and B&B which offer temporary accommodation to homeless people and they tend to be very, very basic. You’d really not be wanting to go there on your holidays. I’m imagining the asylum seeker ones will be similar and I’ve no reason to think otherwise. Maybe I’m missing something?

And your evidence of that is?

And that's mostly down to pensioners not claiming all the benefits they're entitled to.

You do know he wants privatisation of the NHS, like the US system? How do you think that will affect the average working person? If you are happy to risk medical bankruptcy or huge insurance premiums ...go for the vote 🤬

I don't care whether it's appreciated or not.

I'm quoting facts.

According to the Centre for Ageing Better, around two million UK pensioners are living in poverty. Of these 2.1 million pensioners, 55% are in deep poverty and 29% in very deep poverty.
That is 16 % of all older people in poverty or one in six of everyone in later life.

I bet they'd love to be in a 4 star hotel with all their needs met.

https://fabians.org.uk/new-research-finds-nearly-2-million-pensioners-in-poverty/

I suggest the lives on Tiktok. they take calls from reform supporters and speak about their beliefs and debunk myths. it's unrivaled in its insight.

Spot on.

The triple lock is a travesty. It was only ever intended to be temporary. It should go. And, once again, please stop weaponising pensioners to support your prejudice. It’s not appreciated.

It's funny how most of the arguments on MN are about the entitled boomer pensioners who are spending their winter fuel allowance on cruises, and how the triple lock should be done away with, but as soon as migration is mentioned, all of a sudden pensioners are practically on the breadline about to have the triple lock snatched from them.

Pensioners solely reliant on the state pension are also entitled to pension credit, housing benefit, reductions in CT, TV licence, free bus passes, other travel concessions, many allowances in respect of care and disability.

I am protesting regularly to my MP about all these issues.

And what happened to Hugh Edwards? Zilch. Ditto Cyril Smith

You reinforce my point that we have enough home-grown reprobates without deliberately importing any more.

Yes he’s a grifter. Unfortunately these divide and conquer tactics are tried and tested. People are encouraged to punch down and meanwhile are distracted from seeing what those in power are up to with their asset stripping.

@blossomtoes "Most of us these days have occupational pensions"

Do we? The figure is actually 47%.

And the Triple Lock isn't safe

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cq6m03ld7nvo

note this sentence -

Chancellor Rachel Reeves previously said the Labour government would keep the triple lock until the end of the current Parliament.
But since that commitment, there has been intense debate over the cost of the triple lock and whether it is justified.

Are you also incensed about Brits on far higher benefits that tax payers are subsidising, making only fans sex videos, raping and abusing women and children, behaving anti socially, dealing drugs, committing myriad other crimes on a far, far larger scale than anything migrants are accused of? Where are you protesting about this?

Some pensioners. Most of us these days have occupational pensions. Please stop using pensioners to support your anti immigrant unpleasantness.

Pensioners on £230 per week and nothing else are eligible for a whole host of other benefits relating to housing, TV etc. To suggest they are surviving on £230 per week is disingenuous at the least.

If I was forbidden to work, stuck in shared, cramped accommodation for weeks and months waiting for an asylum application to be processed, I think I'd need that packet of fags. Do you honestly begrudge less than a tenner a week?

He acts like he's one of the people , he says what people want to hear but he rarely tells the truth and creates división and shifts the focus onto things that don't really affect every day folk he has no workable policies but seals in simple sentences that appeal to the hard of thinking