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Evil MIL

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Warmsunnyday1 · 13/05/2025 00:58

Who has one? I do, shes a horrid narcissist who can see no wrong in her actions, she falls out with everyone, of course its never her fault, always everyone else,the poor woman. She doesn’t speak to her son or myself anymore because i dared to call her daughter out for speaking to me like I was absolutely nothing, i mean how dare I, should have just sat back and taken all the abuse like a good little DIL. Why are they so nuts?

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MarioLink · 13/05/2025 15:01

Mine will put my kids in danger and laugh when I object. Spouts racism and sexism in front of the kids. Mocks our home and belongings. Is more horrible each time we see her but gets angry when we pull back. My husband gets very down about it but feels the need to please her.

Didshejustsaythatoutloud · 13/05/2025 14:57

How does this evilness manifest itself op

SpryCat · 13/05/2025 14:53

LeaveALittleNote · 13/05/2025 10:04

I have always treated my MIL with the utmost respect. Taken her on day trips, welcomed her into our home. But she is horrible to me when DH’s back is turned and it’s wearing me down now. I feel she’s jealous of me because I’m with her favourite son, and in a sick and twisted way, she wants him to herself.

Stop taking her out on day trips, when she comes to yours, welcome her, make her a drink and then go in another room, let your H entertain her. Life is too short for bullshit

Aliflowers · 13/05/2025 14:48

MrsMitford3 · 13/05/2025 11:24

Just here on behalf of all lovely MIL's.

All MIL are not horrible and threads like this which attempt to paint all MIL in a bad light are unhelpful.

There are good and bad people in all relationships and there are some ppl that just don't get on.
You marry a person and get their whole family and I think ppl are quick to take offence and dig in a position. it's a long old life and it is much easier to rub along-even if you will never be kindred spirits.

It gets very emotive on both sides-and we have seen plenty of threads on here from both perspectives.

I adore my DIL and DIL to be. They are very different personalities and we all get on brilliantly.

I know I am lucky but I also know I do my absolute best to stay lucky!

And just to add I adore my MIL. I’ve posted as much on multiple threads over the years. She’s as mad as a brush and would drive you scatty sometimes with mad requests (that she always rings me and not her only son for lol) but she has a heart of gold and is the best grandmother too.

Im always relieved that I lucked out in the way that I did when I ended up with my DH and be default his family when I see posts like this

lifeisgoodrightnow · 13/05/2025 14:48

Wishboneswishes · 13/05/2025 10:51

I think it’s more fair to say some people - women/men are vile rather than state and question generally why MILs are nuts.

People can be vile to family and horrible to friends. I know of rude, narcissistic women and men who fit this brief who are not MILs or DILs. Also know lots of MILs and DILs who are kind and compassionate.

I think this is an extremely valid point. My MIL was also a horrid DM;DW and Dsil.

DoNotIron · 13/05/2025 14:42

Mine hasn’t been the easiest to get along with. People who don’t know her very well think she’s wonderful. She gives you apple tart and pavlova and cups of tea and there’s plenty of banter. But she treats her family like shit and that includes me. She has a revisionist view of history and gaslights everyone left, right and centre. ‘But I was only saying ..’ is her stock phrase after she starts absolute carnage. At one point 3 of her 5 children were having nothing to do with her and she was, of course, the victim. I remember years ago a priest was visiting. He was there as a friend rather than on ‘official business’😅 Needless to say, she made a right fuss of him. I was pacing about in the kitchen trying to settle DS1 and he came in and grabbed me by the arm and said ‘That woman is a saint. A saint I tell ye’. It was like a scene from Father Ted. I almost laughed, but very quickly realised he was deadly serious. She’s the complete bloody opposite of a saint. But it just goes to show how some people can play nice or nasty at will.

IsThisLifeNow · 13/05/2025 14:38

I am in the midst of separating from my husband of almost 8 years and I won't miss my MIL. She's not that bad, I know she doesn't like me though. It doesn't seem really personal though, she's rude to a lot of people, including wait staff, she's an absolute horror to them!

I did dodge a bullet when I was younger, an ex boyfriend's mother was horrible to me. I was taking her golden child away from her. I am still on fairly amicable terms with that ex who is now married and I hope she's nicer to his wife than she was to me.

Namechangean · 13/05/2025 14:37

indianques · 13/05/2025 12:45

By virtue of the fact she is a MIL, she is an older lady.

I have had 2 MIL's - they were both nice. I myself am a lovely MIL, because I've always been a nice person, and I didn't have a personality transplant when my kids got married.

Sorry you have a horrid MIL - she's probably never been a nice person.

My ‘evil’ MIL is nearly 50s so not necessarily true

ForZanyAquaViewer · 13/05/2025 14:33

In my experience, very few people are ‘evil’, yet so many MILs are alleged to be. It’s all a bit black and white.

Mine is fine. Not particularly interested in me, and I have no idea if she particularly likes me, but that’s not something I care about. We have a civil, fairly surface relationship. She’s not a very warm person, but she raised my DH and is a decent DGP to DC, so all’s well.

Warmsunnyday1 · 13/05/2025 14:32

Someone2025 · 13/05/2025 14:25

That comment really doesn’t make any sense

I think poster is trying to say that being a mil in itself does not make you a bad person, you can be a bad person and not be a MIL :) . I do think that there is something in some MIL’s such as insecurities/control issues etc that makes them unpleasant when another woman enters her sons life. So if the woman in question was not her DIL she probably wouldn’t be giving that woman a hard time, she would be treating her in a respectful manner.

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Namechangean · 13/05/2025 14:32

My MIL definitely comes across as evil. She cuts off and bullies people one at a time. Including her children. Then she brings them back in to the fold by love bombing them before starting on the next. She does it so that they fall out with her I think. That way she can play the victim.

She lies about people to make herself look like a martyr. If she does something nice for you, it’s probably so she can tell other people how you take advantage of her. Three of her adult children don’t see her. One is still technically a child and the other is the second youngest so has only been targeted once so far, and she still lives with her.

She truly doesn’t seem to have any feelings, but she is so damaging to her adult children, who still just want their mum to love them, my DP prefers to be LC over NC because they feel sad to not have her in their lives. I find her to be an emotional vampire but she doesn’t get to me, just feel sorry for her children

MILsAreHumanToo · 13/05/2025 14:31

grapesandmelon · 13/05/2025 09:57

Two sides to every story...

Three sides 😄 DIL's side, MIL's side and the truth being somewhere in the middle, along with the poor bloke who is the husband of one and the beloved son of the other. 🤐

Someone2025 · 13/05/2025 14:25

CurlewKate · 13/05/2025 11:15

There are some very unpleasant people in the world. Some of them are MILs. Despite mumsnet’s beliefs, there is no correlation.

That comment really doesn’t make any sense

OneKookyPinkShaker · 13/05/2025 14:23

I honestly didn't think my MIL was that bad until I was pregnant/gave birth. The way she speaks and talks to me in my own house about my own child is infuriating. It's always when DH isn't there and when I let him know what happened or ask him to have a word it's always that I'm overreacting or oversensitive

grapesandmelon · 13/05/2025 14:23

Gyozas · 13/05/2025 14:13

Do you not understand that just perhaps, there could be both twat MILs and twat DILs out there? Do you not think that there might be tiny chance of that? Rather than only twat DILs because that’s what you have allegedly experienced?

Sit tight for this: sometimes people are twats. I know, right?!

If you read on further, you'll see I've said exactly that. MILs/DILs/SILs....whoever! It's the "woe is me!" SM posts that usually indicates to whom the blame should lie.

ohreallyIsee · 13/05/2025 14:19

When I read these stories I'm so glad for my late dmil, dh and I used to joke that if we split up my dm would take his side and dmil mine. She had the mil from hell(nobody liked her not even my fil) and told me that if she started acting like that to pull her upon it😀

Gyozas · 13/05/2025 14:13

grapesandmelon · 13/05/2025 10:43

Maybe, but from my own friends experience, the narcissistic DIL would spout shit like this thread all the time to make herself a victim of the "Evil MIL" when it was entirely the other way round. The DIL would make an issue of every tiny thing. Too many phone calls/visits? Interfering MIL. So MIL backs off...MIL doesn't put any effort in and favourites other DC/DGC. MIL asks about DILs life ... Sticks her nose in. Doesn't ask about DILs life ... MIL doesn't care.

I've seen the damage it did to the MIL who has a DIL always playing the victim so I absolutely hate these threads with a passion as I rarely believe the "poor innocent DIL" perspective. Especially when there are no real examples of wrongdoing on the MILs part and it's all wishy-washy "she's unkind" stuff.

Do you not understand that just perhaps, there could be both twat MILs and twat DILs out there? Do you not think that there might be tiny chance of that? Rather than only twat DILs because that’s what you have allegedly experienced?

Sit tight for this: sometimes people are twats. I know, right?!

Warmsunnyday1 · 13/05/2025 14:02

YearlySubscriptionRenewal · 13/05/2025 13:55

if your son and his wife have to start talking about "boundaries", let me break it to you: you have already gone way too far.

It sounds like you are a MIL, you had your life, time to let your kids live their own? Surely happy and independent children is the best a parent can wish for?
Get a hobby and a job if it's that hard to let go.

Quite, so @Hwi lets take my example about my MIL snatching our baby from his moses basket in the middle of the night. I should not need to explain to any other reasonable adult that it was a crossed boundary, any other reasonable adult could see that it was something not acceptable and should not be done. But explaining it to MIL, made me a massive problem in her eyes. Like this poster has said if your son and DIL are talking about boundaries you have already gone too far.

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DuckieDodgyHedgyPiggy · 13/05/2025 14:00

Mistyglade · 13/05/2025 09:59

Mine is an ex horrid MIL. she pretends I don’t exist when ex and DS9 spend time with them. Her legacy will be that she treated his mummy like dirt. It already upsets him. I don’t say anything because I chose to rise above.

Yep. When my dch were old enough, they started to challenge some of the nasty things MIL said to me. That shut her up!

YearlySubscriptionRenewal · 13/05/2025 13:56

Skibbidirizzohio · 13/05/2025 13:51

Mine isn’t speaking to me because her son cheated on me and then went AWOL for a month 🤣

You must be a slattern for sure!

Sorry about your partner, but good riddance to your MIL from hell.

YearlySubscriptionRenewal · 13/05/2025 13:55

Hwi · 13/05/2025 13:31

No point saying it here - this is MN, it is all about 'boundaries' and telling both sets of parents to FO - natural and in-laws. Saying how toxic they are, how they can't wash dishes properly and they should hurry up and die and let the posters inherit asap. If they don't hurry up and die, perish the thought, their savings will spent on care homes.

if your son and his wife have to start talking about "boundaries", let me break it to you: you have already gone way too far.

It sounds like you are a MIL, you had your life, time to let your kids live their own? Surely happy and independent children is the best a parent can wish for?
Get a hobby and a job if it's that hard to let go.

Warmsunnyday1 · 13/05/2025 13:53

Skibbidirizzohio · 13/05/2025 13:51

Mine isn’t speaking to me because her son cheated on me and then went AWOL for a month 🤣

😳I mean you must have done something to her poor son to feel he just HAD to do that (I am so sorry he did that to you) xx

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Skibbidirizzohio · 13/05/2025 13:51

Mine isn’t speaking to me because her son cheated on me and then went AWOL for a month 🤣

Warmsunnyday1 · 13/05/2025 13:47

thepariscrimefiles · 13/05/2025 13:45

You shoehorn inheritance into every thread about difficult MILs, when it has no relevance whatsoever and you gloss over all the examples of poor behaviour by these MILs as though they are automatically deserving of deference and respect from their DILs. I very much doubt that OP is expecting any inheritance from her MIL. Why on earth would she?

Certainly not, my parents taught me to row my own boat.

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OhBow · 13/05/2025 13:45

So sorry @FancyCatSlave It's true we marry the whole family not just the man. Hope you get some lovely new people in your life.