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Dad using individual ladies loo to change baby – what’s the etiquette?

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horchatatresleches · 12/05/2025 17:36

We were at a small cafe we hadn’t visited before – just me, DH, and our baby DS. When DS needed changing, DH went to check the facilities but came back quickly saying the baby change was in the ladies so I changed him but it got me wondering about what is the etiquette.

The setup was one of those where the mens and women loos are both single-occupancy, self-contained rooms that open off the same hallway – not communal spaces with stalls. So it’s not like he’d be walking into a room with other women inside and making anyone uncomfortable. I’ve been to similar cafes where both loos are labelled gender-neutral, which seems simpler. Personally, I wouldn’t bat an eye if I saw a dad coming out of that kind of loo with a baby, but DH felt uncomfortable using the ladies even though there was no one else around. He wasn’t sure what he’d have done if I hadn’t been there to help.

Is there an etiquette about dads using the ladies in this kind of setup if that’s where the baby change is?
YANBU - he’s fine to use the baby change
YABU - he shouldn’t go in the ladies there

OP posts:
hulahooper2 · 12/05/2025 18:18

of course it’s ok for him to use the ladies. Sorry I voted on the Yabu option by mistake

Brefugee · 12/05/2025 18:18

TheIceBear · 12/05/2025 18:16

Why should she do it just because it’s in the ladies ?

because men shouldn't be in the ladies.

Men need to get on at cafés etc to provide changing facilities that they can use. Or offer to use the table/seat in the corner, or if they can use the manager's office.

They need to be making it clear it is not acceptable for them to be told to use the ladies.

Brefugee · 12/05/2025 18:16

He should ask the café owner where he can change the baby because it is not acceptable for him to go in the ladies.

Lather, rince and repeat every time he goes out with the child.

TheIceBear · 12/05/2025 18:16

Shadowsunray · 12/05/2025 18:14

My view is that if the two of you are together you should change the baby if the table is in the ladies. If he's alone and there is no alternative it's ok for him to do it.

Why should she do it just because it’s in the ladies ?

Shadowsunray · 12/05/2025 18:14

My view is that if the two of you are together you should change the baby if the table is in the ladies. If he's alone and there is no alternative it's ok for him to do it.

Ddakji · 12/05/2025 17:49

I wouldn’t like it.

He should ask about the cafe having a changing table in the men’s for dads like him, or vote with his feet and go elsewhere.

AnSolas · 12/05/2025 17:46

Was the male toilet an accessible toilet with wheelchair space and transfer bars which did not have a baby change unit
Or was it a regular small ( able body) male toilet?

Because in a lot of provision the underlying assumption is that men dont "need" baby change units as thats "womens work"

brettsalanger · 12/05/2025 17:41

Yeah of course he can. It’s a stupid set up though. What if he was there alone?

loos like this should be for all genders.

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 12/05/2025 17:40

At least he didn’t do it on the table as I have seen done in the past.

Dotjones · 12/05/2025 17:39

He should just ask the cafe owner whether he should use the ladies toilet, and if not he should demand they provide suitable alternative facilities or he will sue them for sexual discrimination. Often they'll just back down if you kick up a fuss and threaten them with legal action.

MumChp · 12/05/2025 17:39

Of course a dad with a child can use a changing station at the womens' loo.