9 yr old told off for calling non-binary teacher Sir

To be clear I don’t condone the child being told off or being made to feel guilty in anyway shape or form.
in my view what you see as nonsense words are important to others and I want to live in a society with the least amount of friction possible.

edited to add: I also try and put myself in other people’s shoes and imagine what would it feel like for me. The anxiety and the fear and the constant looks - and if I can help ease that I would like to try.

Women don’t wear trousers for sexual purposes.
What extensive research have you done to justify this comment?

Men sometimes wear skirts and heels for sexual purposes.
Women sometimes wear skirts and heels for sexual purposes. Should we ban skirts and heels for everyone?

We can’t tell what any particular man’s motivation for wearing a skirts and heels is but we can’t safely assume it is not for sexual purposes.
Same applies to women. Just because a man wears a skirt doesn’t make him a paedophile, predator or deviant. Some men just want to wear a skirt and heels. What about a skirt without heels or vice versa, is that acceptable?

Wearing anything for sexual purposes is not appropriate in a school.
Its a skirt and heels, not chaps and crotchless panties with thigh high boots.

We used to know this.
God help you if you bump into Grayson Perry.

More that their brain is telling them to say the correct-sex word. The stress in this case came from being told off for it, and any further stress will come from trying to remember it, against intuition, every time.
Why do we need to 'readjust as a society' to be comfortable using nonsense words to prop up someone's feelings?

So you believe this 9 year old doesn’t want to say it?

yes it might take some effort for us to re adjust as a society - but it’s not difficult in my opinion - of course you can disagree that is your right

Why are people with mental health issues allowed around children?

I think that when people switch, they're 'gender fluid'. Like that Philip Bunce bloke.

Oh...according to Wikipedia, he's BOTH non-binary and gender fluid. I can't keep up. Have found an article from The Standard:

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/gender-fluid-exec-named-on-list-of-top-100-women-in-business-a3942896.html

The teacher should be fired. He’s an obviously delusional, self-obsessed fool who’s lying to kids and then getting uppity when they don’t collude in the lie. He sounds like an imbecile

Compelled speech requires someone to say something that they do not want to say/say things against their will.

But in any case, my comment about the available scientific evidence that seeing one sex and being required to use a word applicable to the other (or none) is difficult is more about the fact that we are hard-wired to recognise sex and therefore having to speak counter-intuitively is, tiring and confusing.
Sure, if someone 'explains' that they want to be called Mx, or referred to as Sarah when they're plainly male, etc, we can reason and learn about that; but it's still a little bit of effort required every time, for nothing more than making that person feel better.

Yes the child was aware of the title but when you call out it’s normally ‘Sir’ or ‘Miss’ rather than ‘Mix’ so it’s a force of habit rather than a deliberate intent to disrespect. The child apologised but was left feeling guilty.

Jeez - what a bloody mess. Feeling guilty - poor poor child.

He should not even have to be aware of this nonsense, let alone get ticked off for getting it "wrong."

I just despair.

Whilst we are feeding them this stuff, we could be teaching them the importance of kindness. That is all that matters. And this self-absorbed teacher might do well to learn that lesson too.

This. Totally bizarre. I hope this thread isn't real

see all this time I thought we were having a constructive debate - but clearly this whole time you have been mocking me. Because I already gave my views on sex. Shame on me for thinking people could have good intentions on this forum.

Women don’t wear trousers for sexual purposes.

Men sometimes wear skirts and heels for sexual purposes.

We can’t tell what any particular man’s motivation for wearing a skirts and heels is but we can’t safely assume it is not for sexual purposes.

Wearing anything for sexual purposes is not appropriate in a school.

We used to know this.

Thanks for that I must not be understanding non binary I thought it was that a person doesn’t feel male or female that’s why I couldn’t see why they would choose to dress masculine one day and female the next. Complicated innit

And sex?

Yes

Disagree that asking a 9 year old to call someone mx instead of sir is compelled speech. An explanation should be given of course but I wouldn’t classify it as compelled speech - therefore I reject your assertions regarding it being psychologically bamboozling

Some police forces issue 2 id cards for officers who wish to identify as male one day but female on another.

Thankfully the SC judgement has now made it clear that male officers (even with a female id) can’t strip search women.

how do you pronounce mx? poor children but be so confused by the non binary man wearing heels and skirts

This isn’t natural evolution though - this is the deliberate shoehorning of gender ideology into schools by activist teachers deliberately targeting kids young enough to believe in the Tooth fairy and Father Christmas.

It may seem nice and vague ‘being kind’ and supporting the poor ‘marginalised’ people that makes the uninformed feel warm and fuzzy but this is insidious and ends in very bad places where vulnerable young people are permanently harmed.

I am no longer talking about opinions - we can exchange opinions all day but it is not just my opinion that this ideology is harming people. The evidence is there.

I wouldn’t worry. It’s all made up nonsense used for performative reasons.

Shame on the school and teacher for dragging kids into their nonsense.

So you agree that you cannot merely adopt a racial identity?

Disagree with what? That scientific evidence that seeing one sex and being required to use a word applicable to the other (or none) is difficult/psychologically bamboozling?

That human rights organisations typically take a dim view of compelled speech?

exaclty - it proves my point. She didn’t inherit her “blackness” she didn’t inherit the trauma that it is to be African American. Hence her not being able to identify as black.

I'm not certain that this definition works. Rachel Dolezal insisted that she was 'culturally black'. Plainly, she was not black.

Sure - I disagree.