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SansaStark90 · 12/05/2025 05:08

I don’t know if I’m feeling really sensitive or right to feel valid. I’ve been feeling very low on myself. Very. My family know this. I mentioned in passing to my mum I’d like a little tattoo to cover a scar. She said oh lovely idea. Then we had Sunday lunch with my brother who declared he was having a large tattoo on his arm. She said he’d look awful, begged him not to. I said well you didn’t mind when I said I wanted one. Bearing in mind me and my brother are in our 30’s. She said yeah, but he’s good looking. Meaning he’d spoil himself but must mean no chance of me spoiling myself. I went over this comment for now over three months.

Jump to Wednesday last week. A family member messaged my brother on social media. I’m not on it. Asking if he and I would like to come to see another family member perform at a large venue. Now everyone in my family know how down I am to the point of being suicidal and really struggling. So you’d think I’d be treated a little more gently. She said in the message which was forwarded to me, if my brother couldn’t make it. I should come along and join them. This event was in the next city. Having not been on any form of a night out other than meals I became excited and told him to message her id love to and for to text me the details. In the meantime, I ordered an outfit for next day delivery, booked my nails and lashes in and makeup for the Saturday the day of the event. Presuming as she’d asked and she was driving there, I’d be getting a lift.

So she text me. Tickets are available online. Brother has said he can’t make it due to working….i would have offered a lift but we have a car full (I had no idea and still think this was a lie as when I’ve heard of them going to these events, no mention of others attending.)

For one, heading there on my own where the nearest car park is a fifteen minute walk so I’d be walking to my car late at night in an unfamiliar city. And two, I just felt like she wanted my brother there. But not me. I felt small. Inferior. And unwanted. I’ve been very emotional about the whole thing since.

OP posts:
Lost20211 · 12/05/2025 09:48

SansaStark90 · 12/05/2025 05:57

I really wish that was the case but I suspect not. A few years ago I didn’t knock at the door and let myself in to my parents. My mum was on the phone to an aunt. My brother was a go getter so successful. Then there’s sansastark…..yeah I have an average job, average home and single. But I really didn’t think I was the disappointment she clearly thought

Ive never heard someone discuss me behind my back before. The feeling of my heart racing and struggling to hold back the tears - I’ll never forget what she said. Or how it made me feel

That is bloody awful. Hugs.

What job and home you have are not important. Who you are as a person is. I want to kick your Mom in the arse.

Do you have friends/other supports in your life?

SipandClean · 12/05/2025 09:43

Eyesopenwideawake · 12/05/2025 09:41

Reading your OP made me look for this story for you @SansaStark90

"A senior monk and a junior monk were traveling together. At one point, they came to a river with a strong current. As the monks were preparing to cross the river, they saw a very young and beautiful woman also attempting to cross. The young woman asked if they could help her cross to the other side.
The two monks glanced at one another because they had taken vows not to touch a woman.
Then, without a word, the older monk picked up the woman, carried her across the river, placed her gently on the other side, and carried on his journey.
The younger monk couldn’t believe what had just happened. After rejoining his companion, he was speechless, and an hour passed without a word between them.
Two more hours passed, then three, finally the younger monk could contain himself any longer, and blurted out “As monks, we are not permitted a woman, how could you then carry that woman on your shoulders?”
The older monk looked at him and replied, “Brother, I set her down on the other side of the river, why are you still carrying her?”
—
This simple Zen story has a beautiful message about living in the present moment. How often do we carry around past hurts, holding onto resentments when the only person we are really hurting is ourselves.
We all go through times in life when other people say things or behave in a way that is hurtful towards us. We can chose to ruminate over past actions or events, but it will ultimately weigh us down and sap our energy.
Instead we can choose to let go of what doesn’t serve us anymore and concentrate on the present moment. Until we can find a level of peace and happiness in the present circumstances of our lives, we will never be content, because ‘now’ is all we will ever have."

Very poignant. I guess what you are saying is that the cousins should let it go that they weren't left any of the inheritance and move on.

ButteredRadishes · 12/05/2025 09:42

Ponoka7 · 12/05/2025 09:07

@SansaStark90 just because they are blood related, doesn't mean that they have to like you, or want to mix with you. Just like them being blood related to their Uncle , doesn't mean that they inherit. Personally, I'd have given them a dropsy. If you were willing to give half away, I'd have shared that out. Because relatives do our parents a favour, it doesn't mean that we owe them. They don't owe you time, like you didn't owe them money. Once cousins grow up, they get to pick who they mix with. It isn't a rejection. Stop trying to control who does/goes were, you aren't in competition with your brother. Foster friendships and get more support for your mental health.

sure. you say that, but when you're ACTUALLY given £300,000 from an uncle who gave it only to you...you'd likely have the attitude "well ,he left it to ME,, so why should I share it?"

it is very easy to spend/give away other people's money...

Over40Overdating · 12/05/2025 09:42

@SansaStark90 yes, you are dramatic. And self pitying. Which has a time and a place.

Given how unhappy you are with life, perhaps it’s time for a little less of that and a bit more honesty and action.

Zezet · 12/05/2025 09:41

I know I'll be flamed for this, but I am going to say it because I really do care and it's rather obvious: you should get yourself assessed for autism. Not saying you have it, saying there's enough there to give very serious thought to assessment.

SipandClean · 12/05/2025 09:41

Why is there such an entitlement that if people inherit money they should share it out. Be honest, most people wouldn't - especially if it was a cousin you aren't close to. The OP shared with her brother. Did he give any of his half to his cousins? I bet he didn't.

Eyesopenwideawake · 12/05/2025 09:41

Reading your OP made me look for this story for you @SansaStark90

"A senior monk and a junior monk were traveling together. At one point, they came to a river with a strong current. As the monks were preparing to cross the river, they saw a very young and beautiful woman also attempting to cross. The young woman asked if they could help her cross to the other side.
The two monks glanced at one another because they had taken vows not to touch a woman.
Then, without a word, the older monk picked up the woman, carried her across the river, placed her gently on the other side, and carried on his journey.
The younger monk couldn’t believe what had just happened. After rejoining his companion, he was speechless, and an hour passed without a word between them.
Two more hours passed, then three, finally the younger monk could contain himself any longer, and blurted out “As monks, we are not permitted a woman, how could you then carry that woman on your shoulders?”
The older monk looked at him and replied, “Brother, I set her down on the other side of the river, why are you still carrying her?”
—
This simple Zen story has a beautiful message about living in the present moment. How often do we carry around past hurts, holding onto resentments when the only person we are really hurting is ourselves.
We all go through times in life when other people say things or behave in a way that is hurtful towards us. We can chose to ruminate over past actions or events, but it will ultimately weigh us down and sap our energy.
Instead we can choose to let go of what doesn’t serve us anymore and concentrate on the present moment. Until we can find a level of peace and happiness in the present circumstances of our lives, we will never be content, because ‘now’ is all we will ever have."

ButteredRadishes · 12/05/2025 09:40

SansaStark90 · 12/05/2025 09:34

I did notice. But I haven’t slept and I’m teary. The bare necessities of life

why do you feel the need to point out other's mistakes then? seeing as you suffer greatly from low self esteem, it seems odd you'd pick up on these small things and highlight them

Missanimosity · 12/05/2025 09:36

SansaStark90 · 12/05/2025 09:35

Attack? Again. Sure I’m the dramatic one

Well, you are dramatic. The fact that you don't see this is even more dramatic then you being dramatic.

ConcernedFriendgbvc56 · 12/05/2025 09:35

This is completely true, but by the same token their time their choice. None of you owe each other anything and maybe they don’t like you. You can’t change them.

focus on yourself but you may need to consider your relationship with them
might have been better if you’d shared the inheritance a bit?

GRex · 12/05/2025 09:35

Over40Overdating · 12/05/2025 09:32

@SansaStark90 there’s also a typo in your attack on another poster. Which undermines your self-righteousness quite significantly. There’s a lesson there, should you be open to it.

Muphry's law

SansaStark90 · 12/05/2025 09:35

SansaStark90 · 12/05/2025 09:34

I did notice. But I haven’t slept and I’m teary. The bare necessities of life

Attack? Again. Sure I’m the dramatic one

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SansaStark90 · 12/05/2025 09:34

Over40Overdating · 12/05/2025 09:32

@SansaStark90 there’s also a typo in your attack on another poster. Which undermines your self-righteousness quite significantly. There’s a lesson there, should you be open to it.

I did notice. But I haven’t slept and I’m teary. The bare necessities of life

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GRex · 12/05/2025 09:33

I'm not sure what you've been hoping for from this thread @SansaStark90 . It started out with you being upset about a range of family interactions, but you don't want to consider where you've misunderstood, nor counselling, nor your impact on situations. It seems more like you're here to argue with other posters now. Is that your coping mechanism, to start up a row?

Over40Overdating · 12/05/2025 09:32

@SansaStark90 there’s also a typo in your attack on another poster. Which undermines your self-righteousness quite significantly. There’s a lesson there, should you be open to it.

LadyQuackBeth · 12/05/2025 09:32

You get out what you put in to relationships.

This has worked out in your favour for your uncle and you are happy to accept it. It has worked out less well with family you don't really see not inviting you to a wedding - the principal is the same though, it's not personal.

You say things like "you would offer a lift," but do you actually invite people placed and given lifts or is it theoretical? People who Invite get invited in return, people who are proactive are included more, and first, by others.

The good news is that this is in your control once you feel up to it.

The tattoo comment could either have been vicious or could have been a way of shutting down a very childish conversation you started, an eye roll response. There's a difference between covering a scar with a tattoo nobody will see and having your whole, unscarred, arm done. 3 months is an unhealthy amount of headspace for a tit-fot-tat interaction, what did you want from the comment you made, there's no good answer?

NattyTurtle59 · 12/05/2025 09:31

SansaStark90 · 12/05/2025 05:29

His tattoo would cover his arm. Mine would cover most of my back surgery scar which is large.

No I didn’t offer a lift as I wasn’t really given a chance. I don’t expect privileges with being down. But I wouldn’t invite someone if I knew I couldn’t take them there and make them feel included. That’s just how I am. I’d have gladly given a lift. But don’t know the others who were supposedly in attendance

A tattoo on an arm is going to be seen, one on your back is not.

Over40Overdating · 12/05/2025 09:30

The way you are responding to people on here @SansaStark90 is giving a clue as to how you come across in real life and what the actual issue is.

I say this as someone with a long term MH issue and PTSD from childhood abuse - you need to take your head out of your arse and realise the only way you are ever going to find the happiness, inclusion and validation you are looking for is by admitting you are part of the problem.

You didn’t deserve your childhood or your mother’s continued behaviour but expecting your cousins, who you barely know, and seem to make no effort with beyond self righteously claiming they had no right to your uncle’s money because you were the only one who was nice to him, to place you at the centre of their thought process for a casual invitation is extremely self centred.

As is the ‘I would do x because I am nice and they are not’ thought process.

Depression and trauma isn’t a free ticket to being treated with kid gloves and being allowed to be a bit of a dick.
You might think you hide it and your public face is funny and care free but I can promise you, it isn’t. Depression deludes us in many ways. I am mortified at what a self centred ass I was at my worst, despite thinking I was hiding it.

Use your money to go to therapy. To learn ways of thinking that don’t centre you as a victim. To put boundaries in place. To learn how to cope with rejection, real or imagined.

Your current state of mind is never going to give you the outcome you want because no one owes it to you. You owe it to yourself to change that way of thinking. No one else is going to change, so you have to.

SansaStark90 · 12/05/2025 09:30

MargaretThursday · 12/05/2025 09:21

People who are depressed often (and I've been there) are very self focused out of necessity. And that's how you come across.
A lot of "if they knew how I felt then they would xyx."
Thing is they don't know how you felt... But you also don't know how they feel. You don't know that they aren't hiding their depression, their fear of driving, their fear of rejection.

It's very easy to say "I would if I was them". But you aren't them, and you don't know their reasons, and you're assuming they know exactly how you feel.

You also use the expression (around giving lifts) "that's just the sort of person I am". Now my prejudice here is I've never known a person say that who isn't self centred and has no idea of how they really come across.
But you didn't offer them a lift!
Surely rather than assume they would offer a lift, if you are the sort of person who always thinks about such things, your reply to the invitation would be "thank you for offering the ticket. In return, let me drive"
That way you'd have been returning a favour and making sure you weren't on your own. So actually you aren't the sort of person who offers.

I don't think that you're being missed out, I don't think you're the scapegoat or less loved and it's not helpful to think you are because it's the depression talking. I've been there and it's not a good place, and you need professional help to climb out because you can't do it on your own.

Thank you.

I would have offered to drive had I not been told instantly our car is full. Given I don’t know anyone else I felt silly offering to drive. Maybe I could have tried more so I will take that on board.

I do think though life is swings and roundabouts. You do someone favours and they should return them - again I should learn this isn’t others thinking and I’ll stop doing them. I did x3 a week for six weeks round trip, waited while she had treatment all as a favour for her parent. I have dog sitted on holidays for free, babysat. I did take it for granted that this would have been a return favour. But lesson learned.

OP posts:
Exasperated24 · 12/05/2025 09:25

SansaStark90 · 12/05/2025 09:16

I have an aversion and hatred than 90% of the British public don’t know the difference between you are and your. That makes me horrid. Sure you aren’t the sensitive one?

You’re (see I know the difference too) an utter dick OP.

Seriously.

Missanimosity · 12/05/2025 09:23

SansaStark90 · 12/05/2025 09:17

Says miss “animosity”. Funny name for someone laid back and lovely

I never said I am laid back and lovely. My username is just that: a username. Now stop your temper tantrum and behave like a grown up not a petulant child. You seem to be very entitled to other people's time and lifts but have very little understanding for others. Kindly, seek therapy. You will get yourself into a bigger self loathing hole than you already are in. Call me all names you want, I don't mind. But your family have the right to chose wjo they spend their time with. And if you are so dramatic I understand why no one would invite you, yoi go out to have a nice time not to look for flaws and missconstruct everything. I hope it makes sense

MargaretThursday · 12/05/2025 09:21

People who are depressed often (and I've been there) are very self focused out of necessity. And that's how you come across.
A lot of "if they knew how I felt then they would xyx."
Thing is they don't know how you felt... But you also don't know how they feel. You don't know that they aren't hiding their depression, their fear of driving, their fear of rejection.

It's very easy to say "I would if I was them". But you aren't them, and you don't know their reasons, and you're assuming they know exactly how you feel.

You also use the expression (around giving lifts) "that's just the sort of person I am". Now my prejudice here is I've never known a person say that who isn't self centred and has no idea of how they really come across.
But you didn't offer them a lift!
Surely rather than assume they would offer a lift, if you are the sort of person who always thinks about such things, your reply to the invitation would be "thank you for offering the ticket. In return, let me drive"
That way you'd have been returning a favour and making sure you weren't on your own. So actually you aren't the sort of person who offers.

I don't think that you're being missed out, I don't think you're the scapegoat or less loved and it's not helpful to think you are because it's the depression talking. I've been there and it's not a good place, and you need professional help to climb out because you can't do it on your own.

XelaM · 12/05/2025 09:20

It wouldn't occur to me to give someone a lift who has a car and drives regularly 🤷‍♀️

SansaStark90 · 12/05/2025 09:19

Missanimosity · 12/05/2025 09:13

Mental health or not, you sound to have amean streak in you. I wouldn't invite you out either.

Edited

Mean streak vs sarcastic dry humour. You take your pick. I’m quite funny in real life. You wouldn’t think it with my mental health woes

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SansaStark90 · 12/05/2025 09:17

Missanimosity · 12/05/2025 09:13

Mental health or not, you sound to have amean streak in you. I wouldn't invite you out either.

Edited

Says miss “animosity”. Funny name for someone laid back and lovely

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