Do phalloplasties actually work?

I would certainly recommend also asking the question on a forum specifically for people who have detransitioned or have transition regret in order to get a balanced view.

Indeed: but I can also ask what her motivations were for doing so.

Indeed: so again, why ask on Mumsnet?

A bot? No. I have a long posting history here.

There are masses of vids on X and TikTok about this, it's all out there.

On the basis that neither of these are available on the NHS (and thus funded by the taxpayer), have little to no post procedure complications (and the costs of sorting them out if there are any is funded by the individual, so again not an issue for the taxpayer), and are also completely reversible, I’m not sure what your point is?

And yet people (mostly women, we know) post about their pets on MN rather than/as well as on pet forums, about DIY, Style and Beauty, work related issues, films and TV, mental health…

Why single out this topic as something that should be discussed elsewhere?

The OP can ask what she wants on this forum, yes?

So next question

It's interesting that you're all assuming I'm pro-phalloplasty. For the record, I'm not. But I still don't think Mumsnet is the place to ask very specific questions about phalloplasties like "do they work" and "can they orgasm". Surely those questions would be better asked to people who have had this surgery?

But if the forum of women who had breast reduction surgery was heavily policed by activists and bullies so the women couldn’t speak freely about the negative issues they’d suffered, would it be helpful?

Also if the women were gaslit and brainwashed to think they were the only ones suffering and to put aside their suffering for the greater good because breast reduction surgery must be promoted at all costs you’re not going to get an objective answer.

Kindly, if you go to a transmen forum (I presume you mean Preddit) you will not get anything approaching honesty about what is really involved, and what the real outcomes are. Apart from the fact that there is a terrible circle jerk effect of "mine didn't work and I'm now disabled but it's still SO GREAT/yours will so you should deffo do it" any women (transmen) trying to post about poor outcomes are either downvoted to extinction, or their posts are deleted for transphobia.

On mumsnet there are women who know a lot about the terrible costs of this, and many have daughters or relatives who have been thrown into this meatgrinder of troubled girls/women.

To get a discussion going, to invite different views, to increase awareness.

Are you a bot?

I'm not policing it. I'm asking her why.

Whatever the views of trans people or gender critical people, the medical research evidence on problems caused by surgical procedures is currently fairly clear …after the Cass report, I was incredibly sad to think how NHS professionals were complicit in causing harm to multiple children and young people, as times go on I think we will become even more aware at how health care has been complicit in causing harm to trans adults. Historically those with severe body dysmorphia ended up in the mental health system because it was recognised they needed support.

We can canvas opinions wherever we like. It'd like asking for advice about a mil/grandma issue and you telling them to go post on granset.

I can't imagine anyone asking wtf have you done to your body and does it even work would be well received on sites supporting delusions about changing sex.

Yeah, mine doesn't either. Am I good?

Asking the question? It's not a problem at all. But I'm still not sure what made OP think that Mumsnet was the right place to ask it, rather than forums where people who have had this kind of surgery might actually be.

If I wanted to understand why people undergo breast reduction surgery and their experiences of doing so, I would ask on a forum for women who have had breast reduction surgery, not a forum of men who are noted for their negative opinions towards woman who want breast reduction surgery.

I put a link to two metareviews earlier. The second link talks of voiding while standing (i.e. peeing standing) being most successful outcome at 92% . I have pasted it here again and highlighted it for you @StellaAndCrow Am not sure if the rate of complications is higher than other surgeries but again, hard to compare surgeries (And in this case, hard to say what is lifesaving surgery as some trans people will say such a surgery saved their life (or will save it) and I cannot disprove that)

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29019859/

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S2050052122000129
database searching generated 39 final articles, with 19 case series, 3 cross-sectional studies, and 17 retrospective cohort studies. A total of 1731 patients underwent phalloplasty, with the most common type of reconstruction performed being the radial forearm free flap (75.1%). Overall complication rate was high at 76.5%, of which urethral complications were high in all reconstructive subgroups (urethral fistula rate of 34.1% and urethral stricture rate of 25.4%). Postoperative functional outcomes were reported in 57.6% of patients, finding that most had tactile sensation (93.9%) and can void while standing (92.2%). Aesthetic outcomes were only reported in 6.3% of patients, with mean length achieved being 12.26 cm (SD = 0.81 cm) and mean circumference being 10.18 cm (SD = 3.69 cm).

The poster is just trying to shut the OP up. We all know that.

Mine doesn't - is it ok for me to have an opinion on FGM then?

This is a serious issue of the exploitation of the young and vulnerable by activists who have infiltrated and persuaded the NHS to further this abuse.

It is an important public health issue in the same way that FGM is (the outcomes are identical, if not worse) but unfortunately too many people just hear the lies from the activists and don’t understand the reality.

Phalloplasty requires a hysterectomy and oophorectomy. Why do you think the NHS refuses to sterilise women under 30? Then apply that to girls with the mental health condition that makes them hate being female.

Why are you trying to police where OP posts?

Why not ask the question there, then?

There are forums specifically for those who have detransitioned as well. Another place where OP would have been more likely to get more useful answers than on here – which is why I'm curious what prompted OP to post this question here on Mumsnet.

OP, can I ask what made you decide to ask this question on Mumsnet? Would it not have been better to ask a forum where there are likely to be some actual trans men who might have lived experience in the area?

The OP's decision to post was triggered by a reddit forum of transmen and their "lived experience".