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to have little sympathy for this landlady facing a £20,000 tax bill

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cakeorwine · 11/05/2025 08:50

You need to listen to the story

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0l91m83

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4gegkxxlg3o

It sounds like she had 8 holiday lets in Blackpool. If a holiday let is not let for more than 70 nights a year, then it becomes classed as a second home.

Under a second home, she is liable for Council tax.
6 of these now seem liable for backdated council tax and she faces a £20,000 backdated tax bill.

Apparently landlords have been given a year to prepare.

She is worried about the tax bill and says that if she goes to the hospital, she hopes its bad news.

She also talks about famiiles who have come regularly to the lets.

But if the properties aren't being let for more than 70 nights a year, then they aren't very popular holiday lets - and should be occupied by people who need a home.

Maybe she should rent out some of the other properties to people who need a place to live in to pay the tax bill.

As an aside, it's also interesting to read the BBC article which does not mention the details of why a let might become liable for Council Tax payments.

'My £20k tax bill for holiday lets classed as second homes' - BBC Sounds

Since new rules came into force, 9,000 properties in England have been reclassified.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0l91m83

OP posts:
ThejoyofNC · 11/05/2025 09:53

OP you do realise this woman can easily afford to pay a £20k bill? She owns at least 8 properties. Save your sympathy.

RedToothBrush · 11/05/2025 09:53

Twiglets1 · 11/05/2025 09:50

Fail to understand why the BBC interviewer couldn’t have asked something along the lines of “Some people would say you could just sell a house or two to pay your tax bill. What would you say to them?”

BBC. Ask questions?

How very 2005.

zingally · 11/05/2025 09:52

vookingmoney · 11/05/2025 09:08

Sounds like she was letting them out for cash in hand on the side as well. No way she'd only be letting them out 70 days a year if she had 8 to let out.

That was my suspicion as well. Letting them out cash in hand to avoid the tax man. Then coming in with "Oh, I only let them out 70 nights a year, I don't make much money from it."
Bullshit. If she wasn't making much money, no way she'd have 8 properties just idly sitting empty for 10 months a year.

Zero sympathy.

Ceska · 11/05/2025 09:50

have a situation where so many of the properties that could be lived in by local families are either second homes occupied by people who hardly live there at all, or are short-term lets.

"You get a situation where so many properties are gobbled up by non-permanent residents that there is nowhere for local people to live.

"You lose your primary schools, secondary schools, GPs… you lose your communities."

Twiglets1 · 11/05/2025 09:50

Fail to understand why the BBC interviewer couldn’t have asked something along the lines of “Some people would say you could just sell a house or two to pay your tax bill. What would you say to them?”

spicemaiden · 11/05/2025 09:49

Oh well.

Ceska · 11/05/2025 09:49

Viviennemary · 11/05/2025 09:10

I have a bit of sympathy because they obviously are not second homes. So basically she is owning 8 properties which are unoccupied for most of the year.

I dont.

She has assets of over the amount owed. She has 8 homes that families could live in (probably, I havent read the article)

Justforthisoneithink · 11/05/2025 09:48

She can always sell one of the properties to pay the bill. No sympathy.

Hoppinggreen · 11/05/2025 09:46

So she would rather die than pay the tax that she is supposed to pay?
Stupid woman

Judashascomeintosomemoney · 11/05/2025 09:45

MzHz · 11/05/2025 09:29

I bet she’s renting them out for more than 70 nights a year and for cash in hand to avoid income tax.

Not to mention (depending on how they e set up their business) Corporation Tax, VAT and income/dividend tax when taking money out of the business. With an increase in visitor numbers to the area last year (peak of 6.8 million in July 2024 alone) it’s difficult to believe none of her lets were filled for more than 70 nights a year. Impossible, in fact. If this is something that’s come back to bite them, good. The BBC don’t really seem to have done much research there.

PinkFrogss · 11/05/2025 09:43

My heart bleeds for her

Aww Pity GIF by MOODMAN
Tbrh · 11/05/2025 09:41

RafaistheKingofClay · 11/05/2025 09:31

Difficult to believe she’s not managing to rent them out for more than 70 nights a year in a holiday seaside resort.

I agree, there's something sus about this. No one would have this many properties sitting practically empty unless there's something else to it.

Rummly · 11/05/2025 09:39

This just makes me think even more strongly that government should radically intervene in the housing and rental markets. People just shouldn’t normally be allowed to own houses they don’t live in themselves, and then only one home.

If you want to be a landlord - including short-term lets, Airbnb etc - you should be regulated very heavily indeed.

RedToothBrush · 11/05/2025 09:39

RareGoalsVerge · 11/05/2025 09:14

This is a non-story surely. She owes £20,000 but owns numerous properties. She just needs to sell one property for at least £20,000 and she's sorted. Why involve the press?

Cos sad face.

Everyone wants attention and to be let off the hook.

Doing sad sad immediately gets you an army of sympathisers to donate to your crowd funding page so you don't have to fund your own stupidity as there's someone else more stupid who will.

Grifters of the world unite.

LoremIpsumCici · 11/05/2025 09:37

No sympathy. This is a huge cause of the housing crisis. Landlords hoarding properties and using them as holiday lets instead of leasing them to long term residents.

Twiglets1 · 11/05/2025 09:35

RafaistheKingofClay · 11/05/2025 09:31

Difficult to believe she’s not managing to rent them out for more than 70 nights a year in a holiday seaside resort.

Probably getting cash in hand from some guests which has come back to bite her on the bum.

The solution to her 20k tax bill is obvious- sell some property!

WinterMorn · 11/05/2025 09:34

Hardlyworking · 11/05/2025 08:57

Pure vermin! Hope they sting her for every single penny she owes, and then some.

That language is a bit extreme.

Jen579 · 11/05/2025 09:33

Dodgy AF. Glad they've caught up with her, it's not possible to feel sorry for someone who owns 8 homes.

RafaistheKingofClay · 11/05/2025 09:31

Difficult to believe she’s not managing to rent them out for more than 70 nights a year in a holiday seaside resort.

AgnesX · 11/05/2025 09:31

LivingLaVidaBabyShower · 11/05/2025 09:13

I'm sorry but she isn't facing bankruptcy she can sell them or let them to a family.

It's astounding you can be this unintelligent and have this many assets.... the benefits to being born at a specific point in time.

Oh for god's sake, get over yourself. There are lots of shite landlords and other entitled individuals who bend and beak the rules to suit themselves. It's got fuck all to do with "born at a specific point in time".

Puerile post.

Twiglets1 · 11/05/2025 09:29

No sympathy.

MzHz · 11/05/2025 09:29

AlertCat · 11/05/2025 09:24

Second homes is house-hoarding. This woman is sitting on 8 homes and nobody is staying in them for more than two months a year, so how is it different from second homes and why does it deserve sympathy?

I bet she’s renting them out for more than 70 nights a year and for cash in hand to avoid income tax.

FatherFrosty · 11/05/2025 09:28

what a plum.
“housing crisis nothing to do with me guv. Just bought up a few homes that would have made good starter homes”

x100 in every seaside town

Chiseltip · 11/05/2025 09:26

LakieLady · 11/05/2025 09:04

No sympathy whatsoever. Every one of those flats could have provided a home for someone in need.

Absolutely 💯!

Lots of people who want to go on holiday need a place to stay.

AlertCat · 11/05/2025 09:24

Viviennemary · 11/05/2025 09:10

I have a bit of sympathy because they obviously are not second homes. So basically she is owning 8 properties which are unoccupied for most of the year.

Second homes is house-hoarding. This woman is sitting on 8 homes and nobody is staying in them for more than two months a year, so how is it different from second homes and why does it deserve sympathy?