To think forced starvation is just plain evil!

Agree
but it’s a normal attack on these CEM threads as a means to discredit those who speak out against the atrocities committed by the Israeli Government and the IDF.

consider Breaking the Silence for IDF reports going back many many years

It is correct that Israel did not agree to the ceasefire because Hamas were not offering a permanent ceasefire.

And yes, it would seem that Netanyahu has changed his goals so getting the hostages back is no longer his first priority.

surely the question ought to be why is Hamas starving the Gazans? Israeli blocking of aid trucks is, in effect, neither here nor there. If they send aid trucks in they don’t get to the Gazans anyway. So stopping the supply of aid which is being highjacked by Hamas seems a sensible tactic to cut off the logistical supply for the opposition forces. And before you “ask for sources” even Mahmoud Abbas has admitted that Hamas gangs are doing this (see wafa website).

Bit hard to blame Israel if Hamas will hijack trucks and steal from aid agencies before letting all the civilians eat.

Thankyou for saying it.

I haven’t seen any others actually say it though
Ive been attacked for being apparently nieve in thinking it’s not that difficult to work out what is and isn’t Evil.

Incorrect
Israel did not agree to stage 2 or 3 of the ceasefire.
In doing so they would be allowing Palestinians to stay in Gaza and for the IDF to retreat.
As they themselves said, this is not the aim of their war on Palestine

@SpaceOfAides
After the first ceasefire when Palestinians were released, most of whom were children, the IDF then re arrested many in the West Bank and actually arrested more during the ceasefire than Israel let out of prison as part of the agreement.

So for all this Israel are letting more out than the number of hostages that are let go nonsense take a look at the number of Palestinians being detained both during and not during a ceasefire.

So actually
No
Israel haven’t let many detainees go at all, not when we consider constant re arrests.

Heres some figures and facts

Well in so far as during times of food scarcity, the very young are the most vulnerable. But this conflict has been going on for 18 months.... we've been told since the start that they are on the brink of famine...

How long would it take you vs a newborn baby to start to look emaciated? This is the problem, Israel aren't targeting Hamas with this they are targeting children because as you say all you have seen is images of emaciated children. Pregnant and breastfeeding women are also especially vulnerable. This is what aid agencies have been saying for a long time, Israels actions are disproportionately targeting the most vulnerable in society.

I'll get my coat 😂

@Twiglets1 you sound far too well balanced and sensible for AIBU!!!

We must be reading different threads, I don't recall any post supporting Hamas.

It's not at all true to say that pro Israeli supporters are unable to say that starving Palestinian civilians is evil.

I'm pro Israel but have explicitly stated that I am against the Israel government withholding humanitarian aid into Gaza. I have also seen the other pro Israel people on this thread say similar things.

Some people just get hysterical when any pro Israel sentiment is expressed and start accusing others of holding awful views. It's easy to see how wars start when we are so quick to believe the worst of each other!

It's been explained over and over again that no one on this thread agrees with forced starvation. I'm actually worried about the emotional wellbeing of some of the people contributing to this thread because they are getting so much abuse just for saying the situation in Gaza is not straightforward. I hope everyone's ok - I for one know that you have NOT implied you think it's ok for people to starve.

The Israeli government wants them to leave Gaza. That's why they don't want them to receive any help Israel is at war with Gaza. Donald Trump has some ideas for the country to turn it into Trumps paradise.

It's not that Israel didn't want their hostages back - of course they did.

What they couldn't agree to was a temporary ceasefire as that would just give Hamas time to rearm and start attacking Israeli citizens again, like they did on October 7th.

Hamas have to put down their arms and agree to a new leadership in Gaza for any chance of peace in that region. If they offered to do that - and release the hostages - the war would be over.

They just don't seem to understand that they have already effectively lost and what the losing side does in a war is surrender.

I agree with those says it’s possible to deplore both the actions of the Israeli govt and Hamas. And to want to support both the people of Gaza and the Israeli people (the ordinary people in both groups who maybe have elected govts at various points, but are suffering and may well not agree with the actions of their leaders).

You mean Hamas wanted to trade at a rate of one innocent hostage for hundreds of arrested and convicted terrorists, and Israel didn't agree? Shocking.

What is a propoganda department? Credible Source for this?

Here is the rest of the article dated 2nd May

Let’s not forget
This isn’t just food that the Palestinians are being denied.
Medical aid is also not making it in to Gaza

This from an article by Amnesty International 2nd May ( 2 months or so into the most recent blockade )

May I ask what your sources are please? Where do you get your information from? Thanks

I mean Jews have been ethnically cleansed from most of the me and na countries... doesn't matter though and none of the western sheep give a toss.

And here we go again - antisemitism on MN ladies and gentlemen.

No it isn’t. Not even remotely the same - but it’s VERY telling that you’ve used this comparison, when I can’t image you’d use it regarding the many other countries that are being denied access to food.

Do you want to have a crack at why aid is being blocked?

No more embarrassed I dare say than by this post that seeks to put down and devalue the thoughts of others
You do know it doesn’t make your posts worthy when you deflect with attacks and demeaning comments.

The Israeli Government ( the far righters that is ) wants to starve everyone out.
Take Gaza as their own

Just as
Netanyahu declared in his own little map of the area before the war started.

And yet this whole thread has pro Israeli supporters unable to say that starving Palestinians in Gaza is evil.
Apparently it’s not as simple as that.
Apparently there are reasons which are more important than the very simple fact that it is Evil to starve civilians.

Who ever they are, there is never a good enough reason or justification to starve civilians.

and No
No one on this thread or any CEM thread has ever said or suggested that starving Jewish people is acceptable…….making out the Jewish people are the victims of the current starvation in Gaza is deflecting from the true horrors.