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To think forced starvation is just plain evil!

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Farticus101 · 11/05/2025 07:42

On the BBC today. The UN has condemned using man made starvation as a war tactic. Surely we can come to a general consensus that whatever you think about the conflict, Israel's actions here are just plain evil?

www.theguardian.com/world/2025/may/11/there-is-suffering-everywhere-you-look-says-mother-of-emaciated-baby-girl-trapped-in-gaza

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Comedycook · 12/05/2025 16:38

RandomWordsThrownTogether · 12/05/2025 16:24

Can I ask if the people who are claiming there’s no famine are Israel or US based because the news in the UK and Europe is flooded with images and verified accounts from international Doctors. Also @stomachamelonare you based abroad, you say all jeeish people you know are pro Israel which is not my experience in the UK and Ireland, the jewish people I have spoken to are very opposed to Israel’s actions. Context is important.

I could be wrong..but a quick internet search says that they are at risk of famine. Now I'm not denying food shortages nor am I denying that people may be suffering from malnourishment but I don't think it's officially been declared a famine, has it? Therefore if that's the case, to say there's no famine is not actually incorrect?

Gerbilboy · 12/05/2025 16:32

Tinyrabbit · 12/05/2025 15:36

Or try the Cafe Estkana, Gaza from some absolutely delicious cakes, datestamped May 10, 2025.
https://x.com/i/status/1921570135791301002
Notice how "starving" these people look?

That's right, let's believe a few random troll accounts on the internet rather than actual journalists smh

smallglassbottle · 12/05/2025 16:25

Tinyrabbit · 12/05/2025 15:36

Or try the Cafe Estkana, Gaza from some absolutely delicious cakes, datestamped May 10, 2025.
https://x.com/i/status/1921570135791301002
Notice how "starving" these people look?

These so called timestamps are false. These videos were taken in Syria post liberation.

RandomWordsThrownTogether · 12/05/2025 16:24

Can I ask if the people who are claiming there’s no famine are Israel or US based because the news in the UK and Europe is flooded with images and verified accounts from international Doctors. Also @stomachamelonare you based abroad, you say all jeeish people you know are pro Israel which is not my experience in the UK and Ireland, the jewish people I have spoken to are very opposed to Israel’s actions. Context is important.

Martymcfly24 · 12/05/2025 16:18

Mylegishangingoff · 12/05/2025 16:01

That's horrific, attacking a community kitchen and busy market. It brings to mind the attacks on the bakeries at the start of the conflict, one by one taking out places needed to survive. I can't believe more than 18months on they are still attacking places that provide food. Like the complete block on aid isn't enough Palestinians have had their farmland destroyed, they are shot at while they fish, their markets, bakeries and restaurants are blown up, Israel are trying to cover all bases when it comes to making sure people suffer that for sure. Survival is resistance.

Agree: collective punishment of the Palestinian population by slow starvation.

This would also be my fear with the Central distribution points for aid that it would literally be like shooting fish in a barrel when they come to collect it

Mylegishangingoff · 12/05/2025 16:01

Martymcfly24 · 12/05/2025 15:33

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c3676r17gg4o

Was that this Thailandy restaurant. Might not be open because Israel killed everyone eating there including a woman with a baby in her arms and two small children.

Just wondering was it the same place. You might let me know.

That's horrific, attacking a community kitchen and busy market. It brings to mind the attacks on the bakeries at the start of the conflict, one by one taking out places needed to survive. I can't believe more than 18months on they are still attacking places that provide food. Like the complete block on aid isn't enough Palestinians have had their farmland destroyed, they are shot at while they fish, their markets, bakeries and restaurants are blown up, Israel are trying to cover all bases when it comes to making sure people suffer that for sure. Survival is resistance.

Tinyrabbit · 12/05/2025 15:36

Or try the Cafe Estkana, Gaza from some absolutely delicious cakes, datestamped May 10, 2025.
https://x.com/i/status/1921570135791301002
Notice how "starving" these people look?

https://x.com/i/status/1921570135791301002

Martymcfly24 · 12/05/2025 15:33

Tinyrabbit · 12/05/2025 14:24

Well, if you're really hungry you could go down to the Thailandy Restaurant and order a pizza or some delicious desserts. Watch all the way through to see the "starving" people of Gaza. https://x.com/i/status/1919054470970835403
Source for this video is the Thailandy restaurant itself, datestamped a few days ago. You can see what's on offer at their place on their own instagram feed https://www.instagram.com/thailandi_gaza/
There is no famine in Gaza.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c3676r17gg4o

Was that this Thailandy restaurant. Might not be open because Israel killed everyone eating there including a woman with a baby in her arms and two small children.

Just wondering was it the same place. You might let me know.

Palestinians look at the aftermath of reported Israeli strikes on a restaurant and a market place on al-Wahda Street, al-Rimal neighbourhood, Gaza City, northern Gaza (7 May 2025)

Israeli strikes on Gaza restaurant and market kill 33 - health ministry

The restaurant in Gaza City's Rimal neighbourhood had been recently been operating a community kitchen.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c3676r17gg4o

JaneJeffer · 12/05/2025 15:06

Tinyrabbit · 12/05/2025 14:14

Perhaps you missed the bit where I said it was a restaurant, so they'll be feeding as many people as come to the restuarant and order food. That's how restaurants work, I'm told.

Maybe you should get in touch with the UN and tell them about this magical restaurant then

RoadtoVima · 12/05/2025 14:55

James O'Brien was talking about Gaza today after reading Matthew Paris article today in the times. (sadly behind a paywall but titled 'Why are we closing our eyes to Gaza's horror')

It was as if both had spent time on threads like this one, saying that discourse is being completely shut down by those shouting the loudest and that referencing October 7 must precede any condemnation of Israel's government and army.

I really do believe that some on here view Palestinians as much lesser humans and not worthy of attention, much less sympathy.

The above post linking an instagram post further illustrates this.

I feel so desperately sad for the poor souls in Gaza - and also sad for those who have dehumanised them so much, their wretched reality is now being denied.

Mylegishangingoff · 12/05/2025 14:50

Tinyrabbit · 12/05/2025 14:24

Well, if you're really hungry you could go down to the Thailandy Restaurant and order a pizza or some delicious desserts. Watch all the way through to see the "starving" people of Gaza. https://x.com/i/status/1919054470970835403
Source for this video is the Thailandy restaurant itself, datestamped a few days ago. You can see what's on offer at their place on their own instagram feed https://www.instagram.com/thailandi_gaza/
There is no famine in Gaza.

Can you give me the definition of famine there tinyrabbit, do you think it means no food at all? It seems you are like the other poster yesterday and think that until there is no food left at all we should all just sit back and watch? Also you are right, there isn't famine yet, there is 'critical risk of famine'. This article explains what is happening, the levels of people with food insecurity etc. No where at all does it claim that there is no food, that's never been the claim.

www.bbc.com/news/articles/cz63jnx52l0o.amp

Tinyrabbit · 12/05/2025 14:24

Mylegishangingoff · 12/05/2025 13:07

Bizarre that you are showing a man cooking a single tray of food in a bombed out shell as some kind of gotcha.

Well, if you're really hungry you could go down to the Thailandy Restaurant and order a pizza or some delicious desserts. Watch all the way through to see the "starving" people of Gaza. https://x.com/i/status/1919054470970835403
Source for this video is the Thailandy restaurant itself, datestamped a few days ago. You can see what's on offer at their place on their own instagram feed https://www.instagram.com/thailandi_gaza/
There is no famine in Gaza.

https://x.com/i/status/1919054470970835403

Tinyrabbit · 12/05/2025 14:14

JaneJeffer · 12/05/2025 12:59

Unless you think that man is the second coming how many people will that feed?

Perhaps you missed the bit where I said it was a restaurant, so they'll be feeding as many people as come to the restuarant and order food. That's how restaurants work, I'm told.

Mylegishangingoff · 12/05/2025 13:07

Tinyrabbit · 12/05/2025 12:51

Timestamped 10th May 2025
Fresh fish baked with fresh vegetables in a clay oven at Palmera Restaurant, Gaza City. https://x.com/i/status/1921599471198028193
Looks delicious, doesn't it?
There is no famine in Gaza/

Bizarre that you are showing a man cooking a single tray of food in a bombed out shell as some kind of gotcha.

Mylegishangingoff · 12/05/2025 13:04

MidnightGloria · 12/05/2025 12:42

Of course it's awful that these particular children are starving. When you read their stories, however, it's mentioned that these children are very ill or need specialist food or feeding methods which they're having trouble accessing.

To be clear, that doesn't make their lives worth any less. It does mean, however, that using their images to represent 'children in Gaza' as a group is horrendously misleading.

Again this is what aid agencies have been saying. The most vulnerable in society are those who suffer first. That's why Israel preventing aid from entering Gaza is so appalling because it disproportionately targets the very vulnerable. Of course if it keeps up it will start affecting other demographics too but it doesn't take a genius to work out that when no medicine is allowed to enter an area it's going to be the sick and disabled that suffer. That when no food is allowed to enter an area it's going to be those who can't eat just anything who will suffer the most. It really makes you question why Israel are choosing to do this when they know it's the sick, the disabled, the very young that their measures are targeting?

JaneJeffer · 12/05/2025 12:59

Tinyrabbit · 12/05/2025 12:51

Timestamped 10th May 2025
Fresh fish baked with fresh vegetables in a clay oven at Palmera Restaurant, Gaza City. https://x.com/i/status/1921599471198028193
Looks delicious, doesn't it?
There is no famine in Gaza/

Unless you think that man is the second coming how many people will that feed?

devourfeculence · 12/05/2025 12:56

WhereIsMyJumper · 12/05/2025 11:44

I am still yet to see a convincing argument in favour of Zionism.

Really? You can't think if any reason what Israel should exist? What should happen to it then?

Tinyrabbit · 12/05/2025 12:51

Timestamped 10th May 2025
Fresh fish baked with fresh vegetables in a clay oven at Palmera Restaurant, Gaza City. https://x.com/i/status/1921599471198028193
Looks delicious, doesn't it?
There is no famine in Gaza/

https://x.com/i/status/1921599471198028193

Farticus101 · 12/05/2025 12:49

Not sure why my second post was deleted 🤔 I mentioned that killing people deliberately in the knowledge that they are innocent civilians can't be condemned in one situation but not the other. They are/ were all victims of terribly evil actions.

I do agree with the poster who mentioned that if Gazans had been white, there would be an uproar over what is happening. It is frightening that such evil is being accepted in some part because of their skin colour.

Although I disagree that Israel has any right over Palestinian land at all, I do appreciate the posters who (whilst they disagree with this) acknowledge that Israel's barbaric actions have gone too far and need to stop.

I can't understand the 'but Hamas...' reasoning in light of the mass murder of innocent children. Children have no control over Hamas and Israel's philosophy is ethnic cleansing. There is no debate about their actions - they intend to wipe out the children too.

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JaneJeffer · 12/05/2025 12:44

MidnightGloria · 12/05/2025 12:42

Of course it's awful that these particular children are starving. When you read their stories, however, it's mentioned that these children are very ill or need specialist food or feeding methods which they're having trouble accessing.

To be clear, that doesn't make their lives worth any less. It does mean, however, that using their images to represent 'children in Gaza' as a group is horrendously misleading.

I give up

MidnightGloria · 12/05/2025 12:42

Of course it's awful that these particular children are starving. When you read their stories, however, it's mentioned that these children are very ill or need specialist food or feeding methods which they're having trouble accessing.

To be clear, that doesn't make their lives worth any less. It does mean, however, that using their images to represent 'children in Gaza' as a group is horrendously misleading.

JaneJeffer · 12/05/2025 12:36

I don’t even know what to say to someone who thinks this is funny

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TasWair · 12/05/2025 12:33

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Bloody hell, the laughing emojis in a reaction to this story. How the hell do you sleep at night? Do you think your reaction doesn't count because it's online?

Martymcfly24 · 12/05/2025 12:24

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Is there something funny about a baby that looks like it is days away from dying of malnutrition because I fail to see the joke .

smallglassbottle · 12/05/2025 12:23

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Wtf?! You think this subject is funny?

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