To think forced starvation is just plain evil!

Yes it still happens. Hasbara trolls are everywhere.
In interests of balance, this is not unique to Israel in that I don’t know about countries but many organisations and large corporations employ rapid rebuttal units etc

That is so true. I have noticed on Instagram/ Tik Tok a huge amount of posts from very pro Israeli accounts even though my algorithm based on accounts I am following would suggest the opposite.

The premise is the same as 10 years ago but the technology has moved on.

Yes it’s actually a lot more advanced now, they’ve approached influencers offering thousands for pro Israel content too. Oxford University did a report about countries use if technology - the section on Israel is really eye opening.

Unfortunately it is more complex than that now with AI - in some cases people write things themselves but are aided by the apps so it’s not just a simple case of copy and paste anymore - the apps also allow people look for help with particular arguments. Microsoft developed an AI too just for the IDF! There has been a lot of deliberate deflection and straw man arguments on the thread that try to swing conversations away from the real issues which makes me wonder about app use!

https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-news-from-elsewhere-23695896

The article is ten years old but I wonder if it still happens......

How do you know, are you there?

You see the same posts worded the same way on numerous platforms over and over. Thankfully most commenters are now aware of what they are trying to do and call them out.

I'm referring to some of your posts yesterday but you know that

Also if you think some of the straw man arguments posted here are absurd (they are fyi) has anyone seen the ridiculous statements by the Lawyers for Israel about it the food blockade increasing life spans by tackling obesity. You wonder what Universities gave them degrees - lawyers in my family instantly questioned if they are not worried about being struck off the register for bringing the profession into disrepute! Also you just have to see videos with the American settlers in the West Bank to see where actually has an obesity problem.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/may/10/uk-lawyers-for-israel-condemned-over-claim-war-may-reduce-obesity-in-gaza

Interesting how the “there’s no forced starvation in Israel” brigade evade the question on where they are based and where they get their news from. In case anyone is terribly depressed and think this is a reflection of the UK have a look at this article from the Washington Post on the various pro Israel apps and how they scan for anti Israel posts and even help their users write replies https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2024/01/24/gaza-israel-activism-online/

@RandomWordsThrownTogethernot abroad no and that’s not what I was commenting on. The post I was responding to was about ‘clever’ Jews being anti Zionist and I pointed out that you can be pro Zionist and anti the policies of the government.

maybe the ‘random words thrown together’ need to be the right ones if you are @ me?

What's anyone trying to achieve with their posts?! It's a forum where people discuss topics.

This afternoon I made a comment stating it's not yet a famine according to what I've read...how is that extremely offensive?

What a disgusting thing to say.

This.

Wow thanks! All ok everyone this poster seems to have the inside track

Yes and that is why the situation is getting desperate and the international community are calling for humanitarian aid to start getting through and the blockade to be lifted.

@Comedycook what are you trying to achieve with your posts? You have posted extremely offensive things and questioned images of people in Gaza and whether they look hungry enough. What point are you making here? Do you think Israel should continue the blockade until it is a famine? Or we are just being overly dramatic?

Haven't declared it a genocide either yet but watch this space.

That’s not accurate, no. No one is starving in Gaza despite all the propaganda

It is tipping into famine, as someone pointed out the official death toll has not tipped into 420 deaths a day from forced starvation by a hostile state yet but it will be there soon if something doesn’t change. It’s a bit of a straw man argument there - so you use the Act.il app?

Again have you got access to the news in the UK or EU - where exactly are you getting your news sources from? Here in the UK we are seeing dead children, children slowly falling apart as their parents watch. You either do not watch TV or read newspapers or you are based somewhere with different news sources.

Can I ask if the people who are claiming there’s no famine

This was the first part of your post I was responding to. If a famine hasn't actually been declared yet then those who are claiming there's no famine are correct, yes?

Good deflection of the question, how’s the weather there? So do you admit that people are actually starving to death, that accounts of children dying slowly as their hair and nails fall out is accurate?

The only people actually starving in Gaza are the hostages. Yet we repeatedly are subjected to this nonsense on a regular basis. Use your common sense- if humans allegedly ran out of food and water over a year ago yet not a single one has suffered malnutrition (in fact obesity is an issue), why are you continuing to repeat this?

A famine classification is attributed when an area has at least 20% of households facing an extreme lack of food, at least 30% of children suffering from acute malnutrition, and at least two people for every 10,000 people die each day from starvation or disease linked to malnutrition.

That's the definition for declaring a famine while I imagine 20% are facing an extreme lack of food currently there would need to be 420 a day dying to declare a famine which is not happening yet but I imagine without any aid trucks entering will be the case in the near future.