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To think forced starvation is just plain evil!

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Farticus101 · 11/05/2025 07:42

On the BBC today. The UN has condemned using man made starvation as a war tactic. Surely we can come to a general consensus that whatever you think about the conflict, Israel's actions here are just plain evil?

www.theguardian.com/world/2025/may/11/there-is-suffering-everywhere-you-look-says-mother-of-emaciated-baby-girl-trapped-in-gaza

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ComeAsYouAreAsAFriend · 12/05/2025 20:46

I do know though that the people I love deserve to live safely without someone trying to stab/ blow them up/ erase their very existence. And you are naive to think that wouldn’t happen.

It won't happen because the world would not let that happen. It is however currently happening to people in Gaza now and the world is not actively preventing it, many are justifying it. It shouldn't be a them or us scenario both Israelis and Palestinians deserve to live in peace and safety. I don't think erasing Palestinians from existence is the answer and I don't think you believe that the international community would do nothing if what is happening to Palestinians was happening to Israelis.

and it will be interesting to see what Edan Alexander has to say about captivity although I have already read some of how he was treated and by whom. No doubt this will be put down to ‘Zionist propaganda’ too
No one here has denied or condoned or justified what has happened to the hostages. That's the difference most don't justify horrific acts of terror. So your accusation that it would be put down to Zionist propaganda is goady and baseless

stomachamelon · 12/05/2025 20:25

@RoadtoVima@ssdwhen i read statements like that it is you that are stifling discussion. America has bombed Yemen, Sudanese people actually are starving and at war, Syria is being torn apart, the Druze are under constant attack.

and yet…… nothing…….

so I will ‘pop up’ when I feel like it. And I will disagree with you when I feel like it. Unless it’s a back slapping echo chamber you are after? I don’t have ‘deeply held hated’ for anyone as it’s happens. I do know though that the people I love deserve to live safely without someone trying to stab/ blow them up/ erase their very existence. And you are naive to think that wouldn’t happen. October 7th wasn’t just well trained Hamas fighters, nor crowds surrounding the parades of hostages.

and it will be interesting to see what Edan Alexander has to say about captivity although I have already read some of how he was treated and by whom. No doubt this will be put down to ‘Zionist propaganda’ too. All these statements prove is that both sides are horribly far apart and the chance for peace is far away. And that’s a horrific for all that involves.

Farticus101 · 12/05/2025 20:22

Tinyrabbit · 12/05/2025 12:51

Timestamped 10th May 2025
Fresh fish baked with fresh vegetables in a clay oven at Palmera Restaurant, Gaza City. https://x.com/i/status/1921599471198028193
Looks delicious, doesn't it?
There is no famine in Gaza/

This is a bit bonkers. The starvation and suffering in Gaza is widely known. It is odd to determinedly argue something that even neutral agencies have acknowledged as a fact, regardless of who you support.

I don't support Israel's actions at all, but I can show some compassion for the victims of the 7th October attack because that is what humanity is. If someone can't show compassion for the victims in Gaza I would wonder what kind of upbringing they had or brainwashing has gone on to completely eradicate any kind of moral compass. It is not normal to see images of starvation and then spend time trying to argue it's not that bad because here is a picture of fish!

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RoadtoVima · 12/05/2025 20:11

ssd · 12/05/2025 19:54

Evan the most pro Israeli posters here are seriously clutching at straws now.

They cant even convince themselves.

They are clutching, but their deeply held hatred of Palestinians is what keeps them afloat.

Watch the same posters bob back up to the surface in a day or two. Defending and deflecting. It never stops.

ssd · 12/05/2025 19:54

Evan the most pro Israeli posters here are seriously clutching at straws now.

They cant even convince themselves.

Clarabell77 · 12/05/2025 19:50

User46576 · 12/05/2025 19:23

there is no evidence of any hunger never mind starvation. There are all kinds of crazy lies thrown at Israel and Jews all the time. Baby killers is an old one. It’s sad but Israel has been vilified since its inception. The eternal hate towards Jews hasn’t gone anywhere and is no more rational than it ever was

Not only is there vast evidence, Israel’s own government are practically admitting to it.

Mylegishangingoff · 12/05/2025 19:47

User46576 · 12/05/2025 19:23

there is no evidence of any hunger never mind starvation. There are all kinds of crazy lies thrown at Israel and Jews all the time. Baby killers is an old one. It’s sad but Israel has been vilified since its inception. The eternal hate towards Jews hasn’t gone anywhere and is no more rational than it ever was

Surely the issue here should be that Israel are killing more children than anyone else on the planet right now, not that people are talking about it? How messed up would it be just to ignore that it is happening?

Elizacat · 12/05/2025 19:45

User46576 · 12/05/2025 19:23

there is no evidence of any hunger never mind starvation. There are all kinds of crazy lies thrown at Israel and Jews all the time. Baby killers is an old one. It’s sad but Israel has been vilified since its inception. The eternal hate towards Jews hasn’t gone anywhere and is no more rational than it ever was

Are you seriously saying that everything in Gaza is fine and dandy after they’ve had bombs dropped on them that have more than 5 times the power of the nuclear bombs dropped on Nagasaki and Hiroshima?
You just can’t be taken seriously.

There is no eternal hatred of Jews, people fall over themselves to avoid saying anything that could be construed as anti Semitic. But everyone is getting sick and tired of the baseless accusations of antisemitism from the likes of you because they disagree with war crimes.

You can throw about as much poison as you want, the world has finally had its eyes opened, Israel is now a pariah state.

ComeAsYouAreAsAFriend · 12/05/2025 19:40

Comedycook · 12/05/2025 19:36

I mean,it's a good thing a famine hasn't been declared don't you think?

Children are starving now, aid needs to get in now, whether it's declared a famine or not is irrelevant to those dying and suffering from malnutrition now! Plus it is not just about food it is about medical supplies

You really are making pretty ignorant comments now

ComeAsYouAreAsAFriend · 12/05/2025 19:37

Comedycook · 12/05/2025 19:32

Famine? Well a I understand it, a famine has not been declared...

a famine has not been declared...
Yet....which is why there is so much urgency to get humanitarian aid in and for Israel to stop the blockade. Do you expect people to ignore what's happening until it is officially declared a famine? If not what's your point?

Comedycook · 12/05/2025 19:36

smallglassbottle · 12/05/2025 19:35

Oh well, if the technicalities aren't in place yet then you're winning aren't you? Winner, winner, chicken dinner.....sadly not for the Palestinians though.

I shall await the fateful announcement 🫡

I mean,it's a good thing a famine hasn't been declared don't you think?

smallglassbottle · 12/05/2025 19:35

Night night. Enjoy your next meal.

smallglassbottle · 12/05/2025 19:35

Comedycook · 12/05/2025 19:32

Famine? Well a I understand it, a famine has not been declared...

Oh well, if the technicalities aren't in place yet then you're winning aren't you? Winner, winner, chicken dinner.....sadly not for the Palestinians though.

I shall await the fateful announcement 🫡

smallglassbottle · 12/05/2025 19:33

Just keep putting the information out there people. No point arguing with these elements, it's just a waste of time, and they know it.

We all know the truth. Even they do.

RoadtoVima · 12/05/2025 19:32

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Comedycook · 12/05/2025 19:32

smallglassbottle · 12/05/2025 19:30

Proof of:

  1. dinosaurs ever existing
  2. people who ride motorbikes have kidneys
  3. Palestinians are starving

🤔

Famine? Well a I understand it, a famine has not been declared...

smallglassbottle · 12/05/2025 19:30

Comedycook · 12/05/2025 19:28

What proof would make you happy?

Proof of what?

Proof of:

  1. dinosaurs ever existing
  2. people who ride motorbikes have kidneys
  3. Palestinians are starving

🤔

RoadtoVima · 12/05/2025 19:29

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Comedycook · 12/05/2025 19:28

What proof would make you happy?

Proof of what?

smallglassbottle · 12/05/2025 19:27

User46576 · 12/05/2025 19:23

there is no evidence of any hunger never mind starvation. There are all kinds of crazy lies thrown at Israel and Jews all the time. Baby killers is an old one. It’s sad but Israel has been vilified since its inception. The eternal hate towards Jews hasn’t gone anywhere and is no more rational than it ever was

I'd advise doing more training. These 'arguments' are level 1. Basic. Nobody believes them. Not even children.

Comedycook · 12/05/2025 19:25

RoadtoVima · 12/05/2025 19:22

Now I'm not denying food shortages nor am I denying that people may be suffering from malnourishment

You have denied so much on so many threads on this topic. Your user name is synonymous with the denial of Palestinian suffering.

What proof would make you happy? Cos I am really exasperated at anyone denying that these people are fucking starving to death!

Your user name is synonymous with the denial of Palestinian suffering

How ridiculously dramatic.

smallglassbottle · 12/05/2025 19:25

I suppose it explains why the ridiculous arguments used by some people are being utilised. They'd have to be actually daft to believe them. I suppose anyone would argue 2+2=5 if they're paid enough. Money 🙄 how tacky and base. Selling their soul to the devil. Literally.

User46576 · 12/05/2025 19:23

Clarabell77 · 12/05/2025 18:26

Humanitarian organisations and the world’s press are all stating very clearly that “Israel is starving Gaza” and you’re accusing people on a forum of dehumanising Israeli children. And trying to take the moral high ground into the bargain! WTF.

there is no evidence of any hunger never mind starvation. There are all kinds of crazy lies thrown at Israel and Jews all the time. Baby killers is an old one. It’s sad but Israel has been vilified since its inception. The eternal hate towards Jews hasn’t gone anywhere and is no more rational than it ever was

RoadtoVima · 12/05/2025 19:22

Comedycook · 12/05/2025 16:38

I could be wrong..but a quick internet search says that they are at risk of famine. Now I'm not denying food shortages nor am I denying that people may be suffering from malnourishment but I don't think it's officially been declared a famine, has it? Therefore if that's the case, to say there's no famine is not actually incorrect?

Now I'm not denying food shortages nor am I denying that people may be suffering from malnourishment

You have denied so much on so many threads on this topic. Your user name is synonymous with the denial of Palestinian suffering.

What proof would make you happy? Cos I am really exasperated at anyone denying that these people are fucking starving to death!

Clarabell77 · 12/05/2025 18:26

hummousnothamas · 11/05/2025 08:35

Of course you don’t care what Hamas has done.

If you cared you’d have to question the simplistic good guy/bad narrative you are enjoying.

And maybe you have so dehumanized Israeli children, women and men that you genuinely don’t care. In which case you have become the monster you claim to hate.

Humanitarian organisations and the world’s press are all stating very clearly that “Israel is starving Gaza” and you’re accusing people on a forum of dehumanising Israeli children. And trying to take the moral high ground into the bargain! WTF.

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