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To think forced starvation is just plain evil!

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Farticus101 · 11/05/2025 07:42

On the BBC today. The UN has condemned using man made starvation as a war tactic. Surely we can come to a general consensus that whatever you think about the conflict, Israel's actions here are just plain evil?

www.theguardian.com/world/2025/may/11/there-is-suffering-everywhere-you-look-says-mother-of-emaciated-baby-girl-trapped-in-gaza

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Dontlletmedownbruce · 11/05/2025 14:35

Tinyrabbit · 11/05/2025 13:12

Here's Abu selling cans of beef in the market in Gaza, timestamped a few days ago. He also has another video showing the type of powdered milk he prefers for making cheese - he has a choice of three different brands.
https://x.com/i/status/1921423745219981619
Now, if you've got this far and you're wondering where these videos come from - they're being posted onto social media by Gazans themselves who think that nobody notices and that no one else in the world can speak Arabic.
Big shout out to Imshin on Twitter (@Imshin), who does both.
There is no famine in Gaza.

You know people have different experiences don't you? I live in a nice house, I don't stress about energy bills or grocery costs. So Is it OK if I go to the media and say there is no COL crisis? And you are all a bunch of liars for suggesting there is because I am doing just fine thanks.

Miri13 · 11/05/2025 14:31

There is a derogatory word that I absolutely hate and refuse to use. But I have found myself using it more and more, and it is exactly what Israeli settlers, the IDF and the Israeli government are, they are C**T’s!! I hope karma hits them big time.

Joyunlimited · 11/05/2025 14:29

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Elizacat · 11/05/2025 14:28

Jerabilis · 11/05/2025 14:14

Yes, it's been incredibly cruel how Hamas have stolen money and aid that was meant to go to the Palestinian people forcing them into starvation. Hopefully Hamas will be defeated soon

That information comes from the Israeli government, who cannot be trusted, having been found to lie repeatedly.

You say Hamas are cruel for stealing from aid trucks, can I ask then what words you would use to describe the IDF massacring civilians trying to collect food from an aid truck (well documented even by our rancid media) or bombing an aid truck and murdering the international aid workers in the process?

Thegreyhound · 11/05/2025 14:28

DrPrunesqualer · 11/05/2025 14:11

Hamas has offered the hostages.
Israel doesn’t want them, Israel broke the ceasefire

Keep up

also returning the hostages would not end this- the stated aim is to remove Palestinians from the Gaza Strip

CallMeMabel · 11/05/2025 14:14

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Jerabilis · 11/05/2025 14:14

Farticus101 · 11/05/2025 07:42

On the BBC today. The UN has condemned using man made starvation as a war tactic. Surely we can come to a general consensus that whatever you think about the conflict, Israel's actions here are just plain evil?

www.theguardian.com/world/2025/may/11/there-is-suffering-everywhere-you-look-says-mother-of-emaciated-baby-girl-trapped-in-gaza

Yes, it's been incredibly cruel how Hamas have stolen money and aid that was meant to go to the Palestinian people forcing them into starvation. Hopefully Hamas will be defeated soon

YourHappyHarn · 11/05/2025 14:13

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Joyunlimited · 11/05/2025 14:13

CallMeMabel · 11/05/2025 14:05

Your posts are dripping with hatred.

In your mind.

OhCalmTheFuckDownMargaret · 11/05/2025 14:12

inamarina · 11/05/2025 13:41

I’ve definitely seen comments on other threads claiming that the atrocities of October 7th “have been debunked”. Such comments get deleted promptly, and rightfully so, but they definitely do pop up occasionally.

Well we know the beheading of babies and putting them in ovens claim by Israel was a blatant lie.

Throwawayyyy · 11/05/2025 14:12

Joyunlimited · 11/05/2025 14:01

Luckily, they respect freedom of opinion and speech (as long as nothing hateful or inciting hatred is posted). It seems you don’t.

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Surely supporting torture in any form is hateful though?

DrPrunesqualer · 11/05/2025 14:11

Agrumpyknitter · 11/05/2025 14:10

It’s because they are brown babies. If they were white Ukrainian ones there would be uproar. We have become inured to seeing starving brown and black babies and children since the 80’s, during famines etc. That’s what Israel is counting on, that people just turn away. I have every sympathy for Israel to defend its citizens but this is beyond the pale. Hamas are deplorable letting their own citizens starve rather than give up the hostages. And the only ones suffering are the innocent babies and children who are caught in the middle.

Hamas has offered the hostages.
Israel doesn’t want them, Israel broke the ceasefire

Keep up

JaneJeffer · 11/05/2025 14:10

Comedycook · 11/05/2025 14:05

I've seen images of emaciated children....none of adults.... except the hostages

If you look up famine in Gaza, you'll find articles and articles virtually every month since this conflict started saying that they're on the brink of famine, on the brink of no water, on the brink of no power....

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You don’t understand malnutrition at all do you?

Agrumpyknitter · 11/05/2025 14:10

It’s because they are brown babies. If they were white Ukrainian ones there would be uproar. We have become inured to seeing starving brown and black babies and children since the 80’s, during famines etc. That’s what Israel is counting on, that people just turn away. I have every sympathy for Israel to defend its citizens but this is beyond the pale. Hamas are deplorable letting their own citizens starve rather than give up the hostages. And the only ones suffering are the innocent babies and children who are caught in the middle.

DrPrunesqualer · 11/05/2025 14:07

Comedycook · 11/05/2025 14:05

I've seen images of emaciated children....none of adults.... except the hostages

If you look up famine in Gaza, you'll find articles and articles virtually every month since this conflict started saying that they're on the brink of famine, on the brink of no water, on the brink of no power....

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And we see twitter and Netanyahus far right followers in denial.
Every month of every year since the war started despite his Government saying in their very own words their intent is to stop aid.

Deny deny 🥱

DrPrunesqualer · 11/05/2025 14:05

Joyunlimited · 11/05/2025 14:01

Luckily, they respect freedom of opinion and speech (as long as nothing hateful or inciting hatred is posted). It seems you don’t.

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I suppose we have to accept in a free world that some people have very low standards in terms of what is hateful and what isn’t.

Comedycook · 11/05/2025 14:05

I've seen images of emaciated children....none of adults.... except the hostages

If you look up famine in Gaza, you'll find articles and articles virtually every month since this conflict started saying that they're on the brink of famine, on the brink of no water, on the brink of no power....

OhCalmTheFuckDownMargaret · 11/05/2025 14:05

JandamiHash · 11/05/2025 08:27

Can I ask what you think would happen is Israel was no longer able to defend itself?

This goes way way beyond defending itself.

CallMeMabel · 11/05/2025 14:05

Joyunlimited · 11/05/2025 14:01

Luckily, they respect freedom of opinion and speech (as long as nothing hateful or inciting hatred is posted). It seems you don’t.

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Your posts are dripping with hatred.

Gerbilboy · 11/05/2025 14:03

In case any one thought Israel called about the Israeli hostages.

Also I would highly recommend Louis Theroux's documentary 'The Settlers' - dispossessing the Palestinians has been in the DNA of Israel from the very beginning.

To think forced starvation is just plain evil!
Joyunlimited · 11/05/2025 14:01

CallMeMabel · 11/05/2025 13:52

Of course starving a civilian population is wrong, no discussion should be required. There are some truly abhorrent opinions on this thread and mumsnet is a disgrace to let them stand.

Luckily, they respect freedom of opinion and speech (as long as nothing hateful or inciting hatred is posted). It seems you don’t.

DrPrunesqualer · 11/05/2025 14:01

Comedycook · 11/05/2025 13:40

I'm sure I read an article in October 2023 that said Gaza was hours away from running out of water ... That was 18 months ago.

Yes because the majority is controlled by Israel
What little there is is contaminated and causes disease

The only chance of Gaza getting uncontaminated water is through aid.

see articles by The Centre for Strategic and International Studies ( The Seige of Gazas Water ) , Oxfam etc etc etc

There’s water and then there’s safe water….there’s a big difference

inamarina · 11/05/2025 13:59

Thegreyhound · 11/05/2025 13:48

And on here?

I didn’t say anyone claimed it on here, did I?
You said in your previous post: “Not one person on this or any other thread has denied October 7th”, and I replied that I’ve certainly seen it on other threads.

CallMeMabel · 11/05/2025 13:52

Of course starving a civilian population is wrong, no discussion should be required. There are some truly abhorrent opinions on this thread and mumsnet is a disgrace to let them stand.

DrPrunesqualer · 11/05/2025 13:52

Thegreyhound · 11/05/2025 13:50

People without access to medicines?
People who desperately want to see life survive?
People who have sex?
People who have already lost children?
People who have been raped?
or how about this- people who can live any way they damn well please without some snot on the Internet looking down on them from a position of incredible good fortune?

Well said ! 👏👏

what a truly disgraceful judgmental post !