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Baby at fertility show?

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Butterbly · 10/05/2025 13:39

I'm not sure if I'm just in the haze of ivf treatments

Today I went to a fertility/ family building event. It was some stands but mostly talks by a fertility clinic on treatment options for example an hour talk of iui medications and procedures etc and an hour on implications of ivf in a packed conference room (100+ people)

I've been sent a link to give some feedback.

I was surprised that a couple bought their baby along in a pram

The baby was fairly vocal (crying and chatting) which didn't feel right for any kind of indepth talk in that way so I would have taken it outside at that point. In breaks in the event, it was being walked along in the aisles, they were loudly playing with it

I think it's probably fair to feedback that I struggled to hear at points because of background noise, but is it also fair to say that it didn't feel like the right audience for a baby?

OP posts:
sassyduck · 10/05/2025 18:55

YANBU. That was very insensitive of them.

Butterbly · 10/05/2025 18:49

I've no issues with the kids i saw today playing noisily on the train, or the toddler who who was engaging us in peekaboo type play at our lunch table. In fact the toddler near us at lunch was completely soul warming (and i told her mum that!)
I don't mind babies in public im not sure why people have assumed i cant deal with kids in normal places
I love children (hence sinking life savings into having one!). I'm well aware children exist

Its specifically in a series of lectures aimed at people with infertility, and a baby being noisy.

OP posts:
Whooowhooohoo · 10/05/2025 18:48

My friend was horrified to learn that other friends expecting or wirh kids were “avoiding” her in case their pregnancy & kids made her upset.
She was happy for everyone else. It took her 10 yrs to get her baby, and we were with her the whole way, with our kids.

Millie90 · 10/05/2025 18:43

TheRoseBee · 10/05/2025 18:35

yep people should keep their babies inside at all times to save your feelings. the world revolves around you

Edited

Exactly. Anyone wanting children who can't cope with a child making a bit of noise in a public place is in a for a big shock.

TheRoseBee · 10/05/2025 18:35

yep people should keep their babies inside at all times to save your feelings. the world revolves around you

ClairDeLaLune · 10/05/2025 18:17

Completely insensitive of them. Read the fucking room.

Sorry you are going through this OP, I hope it works out for you.

OliveWah · 10/05/2025 18:12

YANBU, and I wish you every success with your treatment.

I had a large bleed in the early hours of the morning when 13 weeks pregnant, so went to the EPU to get scanned. As it was only 7am, DH and DD1 (who was 14 months old) came with me, but I asked them to wait in the car. As much as I wanted my DH there for support, I knew there would be several other women waiting to find out if they had lost their pregnancies too, and it would be utterly tone deaf to sit in that waiting room with my young child.

Tinytotdriver · 10/05/2025 17:57

I know what you mean. It took years to have my child after an unplanned pregnancy resulted in miscarriage, and it seemed like pregnancy (let alone a successful one) would never happen. I always found it so painful seeing babies and toddlers and young children in general. I think seeing them in an environment like that would have been extra difficult.

Saying it now it sounds so illogical, and I can’t actually even remember why I felt like that. I think it was just the desire for something that might never be. I can’t remember or understand the exact thought process, and I do think it’s something difficult to make sense of unless you have felt it yourself.

CautiousLurker01 · 10/05/2025 17:48

I can totally understand where you are coming from… but the pain of the 5 miscarriages I had at 10-12 weeks and the struggle to finally maintain a pregnancy beyond that 12week mark was no less horrific for already having a child. I know that if you haven’t had that first child, it may seem insensitive to see other people with children claiming distress but I used to leave many a mum n baby group and sob all the way home with my first born in her buggy whenever anyone announced a pregnancy.

I truly understand that from your position it may be hard to appreciate that the pain of loss when you already have a child might be comparable. But it really is.

CurbsideProphet · 10/05/2025 17:44

@Butterbly I'm sorry you're facing fertility treatment. It can be such a long and lonely experience. Having been through it myself (and out the other side) I would have felt the same in this situation. If DH and I decided to go back into the IVF world (which we won't), we absolutely would not even dream of taking our small child with us. To me that would be so insensitive. If we really needed this information I would have gone on my own / found another way.
Wishing you all the best 💐

Cyclingmummy1 · 10/05/2025 17:18

BobbyBiscuits · 10/05/2025 16:17

So only people who have never had a baby before should be allowed to attend?

To say you think the actual act of having to look at a healthy looking stranger's baby during the event was triggering/upsetting seems a bit much. But if that's how you feel then I guess say so.

I'd say it would be more off brand for them to ban new parents from the event, personally.

This is an incredibly insensitive comment that adds nothing to the discussion.

Cyclingmummy1 · 10/05/2025 17:15

Whooowhooohoo · 10/05/2025 15:51

Some people think that being around babies will help getting pregnant, they love and want babies, and are happy for others who have babies …

then there are people like you, who don’t want to see any babies while they learn about infertility and think seeing a baby or being exposed to one is “insensitive” to your feelings.

You should ask the provider to organize special environment for you.

Being around babies will help getting pregnant? If you're looking at IVF, you most probably have a diagnosed issue or condition. I don't think being around babies is going to help.

And yes, the provider should have made it absolutely clear that parents needed to be sensitive.

Devilsmommy · 10/05/2025 17:14

JoyousEagle · 10/05/2025 17:00

I’ve had an abortion and if I’d seen a woman with a child there, I’d feel so sorry for her that she has so little support that even for this she can’t get childcare. (I am surprised the clinic allowed it though)
If you’re talking about a situation where two parents have brought a child to the clinic, I agree with you. The father should have stayed with the child elsewhere.

Both of those actually but the clinic didn't bat an eye. It's just tone deaf to take children into certain spaces

foreverblowingbubbless · 10/05/2025 17:12

I completely agree with you @Butterbly. It was insensitive but typical of some people's entitlement these days.

Honon · 10/05/2025 17:11

When I had IVF I saw more than one couple at my clinic with an older child with them. I didn't like it but even then I could appreciate that just because someone has a baby doesn't mean their struggles with infertility are over.

Oxpeckercarnival · 10/05/2025 17:08

YANBU. Only a complete jerk would take a baby to an event for people struggling with fertility..

JoyousEagle · 10/05/2025 17:00

Devilsmommy · 10/05/2025 16:33

I completely get it. Worst I've seen was babies and young kids in an abortion clinic. There were alot of shocked and upset faces. Some places are just not meant for a baby/child to be

I’ve had an abortion and if I’d seen a woman with a child there, I’d feel so sorry for her that she has so little support that even for this she can’t get childcare. (I am surprised the clinic allowed it though)
If you’re talking about a situation where two parents have brought a child to the clinic, I agree with you. The father should have stayed with the child elsewhere.

Dodeedoo · 10/05/2025 16:55

op, you should maybe move this to the infertility page. You are going to get responses from people on AIBU who cannot understand your pain

Woodywoodpecker321 · 10/05/2025 16:48

Some people have secondary fertility issues, some people with a baby might be going with a friend to support them.

Snugglemonkey · 10/05/2025 16:43

We attended an information evening, which was a series of lectures, on infertility with a toddler. There was another one too. We had asked and they said no problem. We had no childcare and both wanted to get all the information because we were changing fertility clinic. We would have taken him outside if he was disruptive.

Devilsmommy · 10/05/2025 16:33

Butterbly · 10/05/2025 15:37

I've not minded when I've seen them in clinic waiting rooms because I get childcare for appointments must be hard.

However this was an optional event, in a lecture based style.

I don't think it's excluding to say that having a soundtrack of baby laughs etc to some quite depressing lectures (at times women near me were crying)

If they'd been quietly in a corner I'd probably not notice which is a good point

I completely get it. Worst I've seen was babies and young kids in an abortion clinic. There were alot of shocked and upset faces. Some places are just not meant for a baby/child to be

Dodeedoo · 10/05/2025 16:32

It is totally in appropriate. I understand that secondary infertility is a thing but being faced with never having a child is next level.
I wonder if those who disagree with the OP have ever faced that prospect?

RentalWoesNotFun · 10/05/2025 16:26

Babies should be taken outside if they cry during any kind of seminar and people Cant hear or are distracted.

It might have been better if the parent hadn’t brought the baby due to the nature of the event, it would have been more thoughtful not to bring a child, but if a sitter fell through what can you do.

BobbyBiscuits · 10/05/2025 16:17

So only people who have never had a baby before should be allowed to attend?

To say you think the actual act of having to look at a healthy looking stranger's baby during the event was triggering/upsetting seems a bit much. But if that's how you feel then I guess say so.

I'd say it would be more off brand for them to ban new parents from the event, personally.

jealy · 10/05/2025 16:17

I went through IVF - I know what you mean. For me though, at some point I needed to realise that being in the vicinity of babies is fine.

I hope your treatment is going ok. It may well be the IVF and hormones and injections etc talking.