Baby at fertility show?

To the ppl clutching at straws saying the baby could be adopted...highly unlikely given its very rare for babies to be adopted these days, and if it is an adopted baby, very concerning that parents of newly adopted babies with the upheaval their baby would have endured would be considering having a new baby while adopted baby was so young, unless they'd taken zero on board from their training.

Likewise, doesn't sound like it's secondary infertility either if the baby is still a baby.

I agree with you OP, it seems very insensitive but that's society for you these days...people don't care about others and are selfish. Huge lack of empathy on this thread.

This. A baby shouldn't be at a talk but given they didn't remove it when it was being disruptive, it's not surprising they were insensitive either.

They are not, but they’re allowed to be there, which was OPs main complaint
They have a baby, a noise creature by definition…

Unless it’s adopted?

The couple were selfish and inconsiderate to take a baby along to such an event and even if their childcare had fallen through, surely it didn’t require both of them to attend?

@Butterblythere is an infertility board here, you probably know that. But just in case.

I agree with you entirely, having been there, and by there, for anyone who wishes the details.
ten losses
two failed ivf
no children possible
adoption x two
two children in a pandemic born naturally.

At no point then, or now, could I see that as reasonable.

i disagree with the accusations from some posters that the world doesn’t revolve around you.

for me, this is a case of women and the ability to show empathy and to read a room. Show that for others.

the only instance I could see that woman being there with husband and baby, would be by force. Because I believe that women who have been through such trauma and or are going through such trauma would not do so otherwise.

This is exactly it - most people would agree that it’s best to find an alternative solution.

I would have been devastated to experience this whilst struggling to conceive or after one of my losses.

it really does no hardship at an optional event to leave your baby at home when the alternative is to cause a great deal of distress

Even if there was a sign in the baby saying “I’m an IVF Baby!”, it’s still a heck of a punt

Why are they more important than everyone else there?

Normally I’m fully on the side of being sensitive to the feelings of people struggling with infertility and not rubbing scans/ pregnancy/ babies in their faces etc.

But in this case I think OP is BU. I’m sure the people with the baby weren’t attending the event and bringing their baby for their own entertainment. Presumably they were there for a reason and benefitted from the lecture which was a public event. Presumably they had no childcare. They shouldn’t be excluded from attending because of the baby. Babies are a part of life.

OP I’m so sorry you are having these struggles and I hope you get your baby soon xx

What if that baby was IVF and the couple went there because it was important for them?
YABU for me.

Sometimes having babies from successful treatments there gives people hope.

I can't believe there are people in this thread who can't see how totally insensitive this was of those parents.

Lots of parents are selfish and self centred so not too surprised!

I can't believe there are people in this thread who can't see how totally insensitive this was of those parents.
Babies are lovely to see everywhere and I was always happy to see them, but some situations are just not appropriate. Feed back, you definitely won't be the only ones.
Reminds me of waiting for an internal scan during NHS infertility investigations, not knowing whether I would ever be able to have children, and sitting next to a young girl crying in the waiting room as she was deciding whether she would have an abortion. I felt so sorry for the poor girl but went home and absolutely cried my eyes out, no way I should have had to have been in that situation.

I struggled to conceive for three years. I would have been disgusted.

Yes, I agree. There are plenty of events comprising lecture style talks that forbid children, its not unreasonable on the disruption front to feedback, nor from a sensitivity point of view. Of course children are most other places in the world, this is probably the one event you'd think people would actually consider other people.

Oh yes, church, that place that's exactly the same as a meeting for people struggling to conceive a child

Good to know that babies are allowed to be loud in your church though

This. The coldness and lack of empathy on this thread is breathtaking.

This isn’t the nicest possible way. HTH

In the nicest way possible OP, you are being extremely self-centred. You will be seeing babies for the rest of your life, what difference does it make if you see one at a fertility conference?

No, because there are infertile people with babies too.

YANBU. I would feed back to the organiser that you found it difficult that a baby was present - up to them what they do with that information but absolutely is worth raising.

Posters saying they can't see anything wrong are just being facetious. It is incredibly insensitive to bring a baby to a fertility event.

This.

I can see why it would upset people who are struggling with fertility.

My baby was born via IUI (no fertility issues, same sex couple) and the clinic we went to encouraged people who’d had successful treatment to visit with their newborn.

We never did as I had no desire to make some poor woman in the waiting room feel like shit while the staff enjoyed the company of a baby.

That was completely insensitive of the parents - at such a difficult event for a lot of women, it’s awful that they had to put up with a loud baby.

Babies are welcome everywhere else - nobody is suggesting they need to be hidden - but not at a conference on infertility.